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Hi everyone, I have work till 10-11 est tonight and pretty much every night so you can expect me to post right around then pretty consistently. I haven't had enough time to read through everything as well as I need to, so I'll make my next post in about 6 hours.
Anyway, be back then with more to say I promise.
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On March 22 2012 05:18 OriginalName wrote:
Nobody said we had to lynch him but you seem to be keen on keeping any pressure at all off of him. At the same time all your doing otherwise has been making snarky comments
I was responding directly to this:
On March 22 2012 03:02 risk.nuke wrote:
Who wants to kill gumshoe? yey or ney?
As far as Acrofales, it's always tough to tell the difference between noob town and scum, but his posts seem indicative of being reprimanded in the scumQT, resulting in the change of attitude. Not a bad choice if I had to vote right now. Fortunately we have a little time.
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On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party.  Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum.
then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales!
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On March 22 2012 05:34 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Any further discussion will have to wait til I'm home. Be back in about an hour.
PS. I read through a couple of games before signing up for this one. It's quite different to play than to watch! :D where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum Because I'm town. How about you?
so you ignore the case against you and then come back with a one liner holding no information?
i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him
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On March 22 2012 05:43 DoYouHas wrote:
Interesting MrZentor. Why do you lean town for Acro? Is it because you think Matt is likely scum and they are opposed to each other? Or have Acro's more recent posts been townie in your eyes? If so, what in them, specifically, strikes you as townie? I want you to expand your reasoning on why you consider Acro innocent.
After that, I would like to hear your take on Gumshoe and those of us attacking him.
Ooooooo, a fun project to occupy my time while people post more things!
This post, especially the part in bold, made me think he was innocent. His reason for overreacting seems genuine.
On March 22 2012 02:23 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:50 DoYouHas wrote:Acrofales reads exactly like newb scum to me from his first posts. His first post reads as already being defensive to me: On March 21 2012 18:51 Acrofales wrote:Hi everybody! Well, Curu hasn't said I cannot speculate about Petyr's win condition. Remember that this is idle speculation, but I have read the books a number of times and if Petyr is anything, he is untrustworthy. He only serves his own means, so I am inclined to ignore everything he says, including that he is a vanilla townie  My hunch is that he must kill Ned Stark and keep Catelyn and/or Sansa alive until the end of the game to win. And then he pulls an OMGUS on 2 different people in a very short period of time. ##Vote: AcrofalesGumshoe, wake up and read day1 carefully. We already know who Littlefinger is 100%. It is given information. Your posts are yet to actually be relevant to the game. What you bolded was basically a follow-up to my question before the game started: Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 18:13 Acrofales wrote:Are we allowed to speculate about what Littlefinger's win condition is? I have a hunch Unfortunately it has nothing to do with Dementors eating Daenerys baby in order to generate infinite facebook spam messages. As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit, with later people talking about the random votes. It is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day. People instavoting for me got me a bit upset. I am happy to unvote Matthew when a better candidate comes up, the ghost of High Heart is kinda cryptic when it comes to her prophecies It was more of a "if you vote for me, then I'll vote for you"-thing anyway. That said, Matthew, why did you vote for me? Chaoser already had the random vote on me. The 2nd one was just mean. That vote has been the entire contribution to this game, with no explanation or text (except for a lololololol, which is even less useful).
He also deflects gumshoe's attack by clearly explaining his thought process and shows why he thinks gumshoe look scummy.
On March 22 2012 03:08 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote:On March 22 2012 02:17 DoYouHas wrote:
I have already said what I think about Acrofales. He hasn't posted anything new that would change my opinion.
Mayor elections are built into the game by the mod (at least I think so). This game doesn't have it, meaning you would need consensus from most players to get it going. You won't get that, and you would be wasting your time to try. Stop talking about mayors imo. Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured. Acrofales + Show Spoiler +As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit Townies don't just calm down when their under pressure. He's either blue(which is unlikely considering his ombus) a total noob green(also unlikely because he just dropped his hostile tone when the pressure came down) or scum(the most probable) Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place? My reason for not going after Mattchew (or Chaoser for that matter) is precisely because I have since realised it's a random vote to troll me and get a reaction. I think he got quite the reaction, so it succeeded rather well. It also got lots of other people talking, which is a double plus! I am still interested to know why he voted for me, but I am smart enough to know that that is not a reason to suspect him of being mafia off the bat. In fact, it's not enough for me to decide either way. YOU, however, have done nothing but spread misinformation with your posts. You spend three entire posts (not short either) on Littlefinger: + Show Spoiler +On March 22 2012 01:34 gumshoe wrote:Alright just woke up, On the topic of random voting, I don't mind it so long as its a means to an end. It should generate discussion not baseless band wagons  Also on the issue of third party. Isn't little finger sort of irrelevant to town? I mean unless he's going to act like a total dick and try to get himself lynched he really shouldn't be a problem for us, its scum who have to worry about shooting him. Townies look for scum, scum look for third party, lets not do scum's job for them by finding the guy whose potentially the biggest threat to their operation. It's better if little finger stays hidden looks like a helpful blue and soaks up a hit. I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about him, I just don't want to give him away(which as far as we know makes no difference to him) until scum finds him on their own, because just by being there as he is he disrupts and confuses scum. For the record though I think he has to ensure that catelyn survives no matter what(or maybe sansa) and ned dies. Or maybe he just has to identify everyone. It'll be near impossible to confirm our theories until later when we've seen someone act peculiar(like a third party would) even then though like I said before it might still be a good idea to keep Baelish under wraps. Next up, Xatalos, why did you vote for me of all people? Is it because I'm a newer player eg an easy target to pressure/bandwagon? On March 22 2012 01:42 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. Why waste a hit? I find it hard to believe Scum are going to come forward like that and claim Baelish(it seems to crazy for even a player like Caller) so way I see it where is either a vanilla townie way down below in flea bottom dreaming of some day ruling the kingdom with an iron fist, or hes baelish and we waste a hit/reveal third party to scum. Personally I think we should stay clear of trying to lynch Baelish, unless someone claims there him just before we kill him, in which case they fully deserve to die as we had already decided. If we lynch Where it should be because we think hes scum, not Baelish, do you really think Where is scum this early in the game? On March 22 2012 01:50 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:35 SamuelLJackson wrote:On March 22 2012 01:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys I say we lynch Wherebugsgo, just to be certain.
Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what.
Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party?
Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. What part of MODCONFIRMED UNLYNCHABLE/UNKILLABLE do you not understand? Next person that discusses wbg or engages in any useless conversation with him get's my vote. Consider it like he is not even playing in this game. /sandroba Thank you Jackson ( : but keep in mind it is possible(though unlikely considering scums hate for flashy play early on) that Where is scum, we shouldnt just take his word for anything but I agree talking about Baelish is pointless and benefits scum the most. For now we can just ignore Where as if he was just a dumb poster. moving on lets discuss policy(it'll only take a bit and we may as well get it over with early on) do we set a preliminary lynch deadline?(im leaning 8 hours in advance if we do) Do we policy lynch hardcore lurkers?(by hardcore I mean like 3 one liners a cycle, personally for this because lynching lurkers always helps clear the air a bit and they werent helping anyway so nothing really lost) are we going to elect a mayor?( I've never done this before so I dont know how that works) in which you claim not to have read the D1 post properly, but you might equally well be trying to confuse any productive discussion happening in the thread. On top of that you ask about the mayor election, which even I had gathered does not happen unless Curu says it does: more misinformation and confusion to be cleared up, rather than spending time on useful stuff. You end the last post with a request to talk about policy, but instead, as Oberyn put it nicely: Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote:If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: On March 21 2012 23:39 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, damn it... No editing! However, I just thought that since you HAVE to vote every day, it might not be such a bad idea to throw random votes early. In my previous Mafia games it was common not to lynch anyone on the first day, and wait for clues on the second day. When people random lynched on the first day, it usually just meant an easier win for the Mafia. And now, to top it all off, you decide that I am scummy for backing down from a fight with someone I have no information about one way or the other. I'm inclined to call that an attempt at getting me bandwagoned. On top of that, you ask for me to roleclaim, which serves no point whatsoever, because nobody has any reason to believe me one way or the other this early in the game. So no, I won't play your scummy games.
Gumshoe skips the day post, says we should talk about policy, doesn't discuss policy, asks some questions, and then accuses the person who is easiest to attack, Acrofales.
My guess as to why he skipped the day post is that he got a powerful role(blue or scum) and was excited to use it. He is either a lazy townsperson with a powerful role or scum. Overall, I think he seems a little less scummy than Mattchew.
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On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales!
I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have.
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On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have.
wut?
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the best way to find scum is to first assume someone is scum, and then proceed to point out and speculate how everything they do has to be because they are scum, thus further cementing that they are scum.
Indeed, the only way to play this game is to assume something happened because of the reason you assert, even if it didn't! Cause obviously it did.
On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have.
You're the new Blazinghand. Congratulations.
In before someone posts "I don't always accuse someone of voting someone...but when I do, they haven't voted."
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On March 22 2012 06:13 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 05:34 Acrofales wrote:On March 22 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Any further discussion will have to wait til I'm home. Be back in about an hour.
PS. I read through a couple of games before signing up for this one. It's quite different to play than to watch! :D where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum Because I'm town. How about you? so you ignore the case against you and then come back with a one liner holding no information? i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him
I'm still trying to figure out what case that is. I have already said twice now why I overreacted at first. Although I am starting to think my reaction was the right one. You're clearly not adding anything: you choose to ignore the two posts I made in defense of my overreaction, and now mention some case against me. Post your case clearly and properly and I will respond to you, but at the moment you just seem to be trolling me.
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On March 22 2012 06:21 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:13 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:34 Acrofales wrote:On March 22 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 03:15 Acrofales wrote:
Any further discussion will have to wait til I'm home. Be back in about an hour.
PS. I read through a couple of games before signing up for this one. It's quite different to play than to watch! :D where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum Because I'm town. How about you? so you ignore the case against you and then come back with a one liner holding no information? i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him I'm still trying to figure out what case that is. I have already said twice now why I overreacted at first. Although I am starting to think my reaction was the right one. You're clearly not adding anything: you choose to ignore the two posts I made in defense of my overreaction, and now mention some case against me. Post your case clearly and properly and I will respond to you, but at the moment you just seem to be trolling me.
my non-existant vote on you, which was not "mean", was because of your reaction to chaoser's vote on you. you then reacted like scum and now have a completely different posting style as if you were calmed down and coached to becoming better.
the only thing of substance you have is your post on gumshoe. I actually agree with it
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On March 22 2012 06:18 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have. wut?
Let me explain this in layman's terms. Whether or not you actually voted for him is irrelevant, especially this early in the game, because of these reasons.
1. He thought you did.
2. You acted as if you had.
3. This early in the game, votes don't really mean anything.
Because of these reasons, the only difference it would have made if you had actually voted for him is that you wouldn't have posted that you hadn't voted for him.
Capiche?
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On March 22 2012 06:36 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:18 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have. wut? Let me explain this in layman's terms. Whether or not you actually voted for him is irrelevant, especially this early in the game, because of these reasons. 1. He thought you did. 2. You acted as if you had. 3. This early in the game, votes don't really mean anything. Because of these reasons, the only difference it would have made if you had actually voted for him is that you wouldn't have posted that you hadn't voted for him. Capiche?
Let me put this in having three 21st chromosome terms.
Your third point directly contradicts your first and second points
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On March 22 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:36 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:18 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have. wut? Let me explain this in layman's terms. Whether or not you actually voted for him is irrelevant, especially this early in the game, because of these reasons. 1. He thought you did. 2. You acted as if you had. 3. This early in the game, votes don't really mean anything. Because of these reasons, the only difference it would have made if you had actually voted for him is that you wouldn't have posted that you hadn't voted for him. Capiche? Let me put this in having three 21st chromosome terms. Your third point directly contradicts your first and second points
Not if the two people don't know that votes this early in the game don't really mean anything.
Nice try, funny guy.
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Matt, Do you feel as though both Acro and Gum can be mafia? I find it unlikely that when Acro got the coaching that you believe he did, they told him to go on Gumshoe this early. Acro to me seems more like what i see in a very new town player. I would be much more willing to lynch gumshoe over him at this point, as he has actually posted things under a mafia agenda.
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Also, Its getting close to the deadline of aperture and I have a nightpost to write, I'll respond to any questions after.
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On March 22 2012 06:46 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:36 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:18 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have. wut? Let me explain this in layman's terms. Whether or not you actually voted for him is irrelevant, especially this early in the game, because of these reasons. 1. He thought you did. 2. You acted as if you had. 3. This early in the game, votes don't really mean anything. Because of these reasons, the only difference it would have made if you had actually voted for him is that you wouldn't have posted that you hadn't voted for him. Capiche? Let me put this in having three 21st chromosome terms. Your third point directly contradicts your first and second points Not if the two people don't know that votes this early in the game don't really mean anything. Nice try, funny guy.
when did you become a vet? was it when you played 1 game (steamship) or when you got modkilled in XLVII and Election?
I know exactly what I was doing and I know very well of voting thread.
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On March 22 2012 06:55 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:46 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:36 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:18 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have. wut? Let me explain this in layman's terms. Whether or not you actually voted for him is irrelevant, especially this early in the game, because of these reasons. 1. He thought you did. 2. You acted as if you had. 3. This early in the game, votes don't really mean anything. Because of these reasons, the only difference it would have made if you had actually voted for him is that you wouldn't have posted that you hadn't voted for him. Capiche? Let me put this in having three 21st chromosome terms. Your third point directly contradicts your first and second points Not if the two people don't know that votes this early in the game don't really mean anything. Nice try, funny guy. when did you become a vet? was it when you played 1 game (steamship) or when you got modkilled in XLVII and Election? I know exactly what I was doing and I know very well of voting thread.
I was just pointing out that you were wrong about the third point contradicting the first.
You don't have to be so mad about it.
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The first and second points*
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On March 22 2012 06:52 GreYMisT wrote:
Matt, Do you feel as though both Acro and Gum can be mafia? I find it unlikely that when Acro got the coaching that you believe he did, they told him to go on Gumshoe this early. Acro to me seems more like what i see in a very new town player. I would be much more willing to lynch gumshoe over him at this point, as he has actually posted things under a mafia agenda.
no they arent both scum, and just because I agree with what he said about gumshoe does not mean I agree that gumshoe is scum. There is a huge difference. I would prefer to give gumshoe a little time cause I have always seen scummy ass shit in his early games but his alignment will become way more obvious with time (2 newbie games)
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On March 22 2012 06:59 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 06:55 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:46 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:36 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:18 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 06:16 MrZentor wrote:On March 22 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor! Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party. Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me! First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis. On March 21 2012 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
Okay seriously WTF. I know I'm new to this game, but voting me for that reason alone makes no sense. In fact, it seems quite a scum move to cast suspicion on people right at the start of the game.
Or am I going overboard and it's just a way of getting people to post at the start of the game? Either way, I'm watching you and risk.nuke. Voting off the bat seems fishy. He then votes for Mattchew. On March 22 2012 00:04 Acrofales wrote:
Hodor's terribly talkative all of a sudden.
Luckily I have better sources than that. The Ghost of High Heart told me that you are scum.
##vote: Mattchew Lyter defends Acrofales. On March 22 2012 02:15 Lyter wrote:
I'd say ignore wbg at least for now, we have absolutely no idea what his motives/intentions could be, when more of a picture is formed then we should come back to it by all means.
I'm not sure on Acrofales, yea he could be flipping a shit cos he got called out so early, but his actions are hardly unlikely for a new guy anyway. Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales On March 22 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:
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oh so your his scum teammate? I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason. For now, I think he is most likely to be scum. then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales! I know you didn't actually vote for him, but you might as well have. wut? Let me explain this in layman's terms. Whether or not you actually voted for him is irrelevant, especially this early in the game, because of these reasons. 1. He thought you did. 2. You acted as if you had. 3. This early in the game, votes don't really mean anything. Because of these reasons, the only difference it would have made if you had actually voted for him is that you wouldn't have posted that you hadn't voted for him. Capiche? Let me put this in having three 21st chromosome terms. Your third point directly contradicts your first and second points Not if the two people don't know that votes this early in the game don't really mean anything. Nice try, funny guy. when did you become a vet? was it when you played 1 game (steamship) or when you got modkilled in XLVII and Election? I know exactly what I was doing and I know very well of voting thread. I was just pointing out that you were wrong about the third point contradicting the first. You don't have to be so mad about it.
I am far from mad. I am annoyed by your arrogance and stupidity. You have proved nothing I said wrong.
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