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Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 05:26 GMT
#354
VE, why's that the bit that convinces you to vote me? Snarfs is simply one of the three that are semi-lurking, trying to fit in scum-feel. I realize I've said any number of things that someone might think is scummy, I just don't know why that in particular?
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 05:31 GMT
#357
Oh, if so, that was not at all my intent in voting for him. There's nothing wrong with Snarfs randomly lynch voting Nemesis, I was just recapping that that is pretty much the _only_ thing he has done so far.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 05:35 GMT
#361
On March 19 2012 14:30 slOosh wrote:
Tobon can you explain why a lynch on people who you think are null is better than a no-lynch?

Because, frankly, I expect other people who are more experienced to be better at this than I am. And because the mafia get their kill no matter what, so time is a wasting. And so, if I'm not actually _against_ a certain person being lynched, and six of my other townmates have been convinced, I'm going to trust in their collective judgement.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 05:44 GMT
#363
If someone is null to me, I have no opinion to fight for. As I see it, trying to kill scum based on a near majority of others' reads is vastly more helpful to the town than dithering around no-lynching making it that much harder for the town to do anything by my mere presence raising the majority number.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 05:55 GMT
#366
I am fighting the irrational temptation to conclude you must be scum johnny, just because you are pushing this so hard and with such poor comprehension. :-)

I have opinions. I have listed 3 people that I feel are scummy, and why, and I've voted for one of them. I'm happy to switch my vote to either of the other two. For instance, Sloosh is getting a similar read as me on T_I_P_D. I'd be happy to vote there instead.

If -- and only if -- the people I feel are scummy aren't going to get enough votes, then yes, I'm willing to see you die. Because I just can't tell with you. But if enough others _are_ able to tell, I'll string you up and feel very town patriotic while doing it.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 06:09 GMT
#368
On March 19 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because your main defense is that you don't have faith in your scumhunting abilities and would rather lynch according to the majority....but your vote is on Snarfs, someone who no one has really mentioned as a lynch candidate to begin with. What happened to voting with the "confirmed townie" Sandroba? Wasn't that your plan for town success earlier? Why the sudden desire to lynch a lurker instead?


Because I stepped in it, and you all made it perfectly clear that my "rah rah! go majority!" strategy was a bad one. Which forced me to get off my ass and start scumhunting, as I was asked to do, rather than going with "let's make it through day 1 and see what happens", which was my utter fail of an initial thought process.

In general, I'd still be willing to vote with the very likely townie Sandroba, except that in this particular case it doesn't look like there's support for lynching his current choice, and also because I had earlier missed the comments regarding Jackal usually lurking day 1, which has changed my read on him. I'd probably still include Jackal on my "mostly null, willing to vote on if others are" list, it just seems like there aren't others who will be voting that way.

Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 06:13 GMT
#371
(and with that, I'm out for the night -- back in 9-ish hours to check in)
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 17:22 GMT
#397
Morning, all. I am reading TIPD scummiest of the three (TIPD/Snarfs/Dirkzor) semi-lurkers so far, because he's attempted to look the most involved while also contributing the least. And if you guys do end up lynching me today, and I flip town, be sure to notice how both TIPD and Snarfs are band wagoning to get it done.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 17:28 GMT
#401
On March 20 2012 02:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
What has changed between last night when you said Snarfs is "the most suspicious of the semi-lurkers" and now when TIPD is "the most suspicious of the semi-lurkers"?
I didn't say last night that Snarfs is "the most suspicious". Last night I felt the 3 were essentially equal and I picked Snarfs to vote for randomly. As you can see if you go read my filter.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#404
Just a little more thought and review. And yeah, jcarlson, if I had anything more compelling, I'd share it.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 18:11 GMT
#421
On March 20 2012 03:04 Snarfs wrote:
Sigh, I'm sorry. I'm tired and am rushing things because deadline is in 4 hours. Another reason I'm suspicious of both johnny and Tobon, one which I alluded to earlier when I said that johnny's claim was off, is because they both claimed "Vanilla Town". I'm a "Vanilla Towny". See that? With a 'y' at the end? Why would they have a different title if they're actually townies? It looks like they were trying to match it up with the posts at the beginning of the thread, when that's not what the title that was sent out says.


That's interesting. He's right, the title in my role PM does say "Vanilla Towny" rather than "Town". Is that exact role name public anywhere else? If not, then I may have to reconsider Snarfs....
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 18:12 GMT
#422
Oh crap, am I breaking rule 6?
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 19:28 GMT
#452
##unvote
##Vote: Dirkzor

I believe Snarfs is town now. And while I'd rather lynch TIPD, it's getting late in the day to gather support. So my second choice is Dirkzor, who jcarlson is already on, and I imagine given their mason connection, Sandroba may be convinced to vote for as well.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 21:52 GMT
#510
I'd be curious what reason TIPD has for joining in on the Jackal lynch, given that he was the one who brought up the whole "Jackal always lurks day 1" in the first place. What's changed?
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 21:57 GMT
#518
yay in thread
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 19 2012 22:20 GMT
#533
Snarfs was the 7th vote there, the vote count needs updating
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 20 2012 17:37 GMT
#631
I was reading Dirkzor as scummy mostly because he was lurking early game. However, now he is coming out and contributing more, and he was on of the 7 votes on the Jackal lynch. It's true that he (or one of the others on that vote) could have been scum trying to get town credit, but it seems pretty unlikely. I'd rather go with the obvious scenario where the rest of the scum were non-Jackal voters for now, unless someone else's scumminess becomes obvious.

So I believe Dirkzor is now most likely town.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 20 2012 17:42 GMT
#633
On March 20 2012 07:20 Dirkzor wrote:
Last scum:

Probulous
Nemesis
Sloosh

Or 2 therein if only 3 scum.

GG


I also believe Dirkzor to be town, because his thought process here mirrors mine. Most likely the scum are non-Jackal voters, and jcarl is "confirmed" mason, and I know I'm town. Which leaves these three.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 20 2012 22:22 GMT
#659
Hitting JCarl or Sandroba was a pretty obvious move. But why JCarl of the two of them? We may want to consider that JCarl was gut reading Nemesis.
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
March 20 2012 23:21 GMT
#674
That's enough votes to lynch. Again, with the fast bandwagon. (Although obviously it worked out well the first time.)

I'm concerned that both Probulous and Nemesis are on the vote list here. If we're looking at 2 of the 3 of them being likely scum, that would mean 1 scum bussing slOosh, which seems very unlikely.
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