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Mr. Wiggles
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Friend? | ||
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Jayjay54
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So I guess the burned to death thing might refer to the incinerator at the end of portal 1. | ||
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Velinath
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Grackaroni
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Companion Cube
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I like making friends. jayjay can be my friend. You can be too. There is also people here who are not our friends. We should watch out for them. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 22 2012 08:21 Companion Cube wrote: I like making friends. jayjay can be my friend. You can be too. There is also people here who are not our friends. We should watch out for them. yaaaay! happiness! @grack, my kills take a while, they're called blast from the past for a reason :D | ||
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sinani206
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
I'm so sorry! | ||
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Nisani201
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 22 2012 08:34 Hassybaby wrote: ## Throw Companion Cube in Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator I'm so sorry! you are kidding right? expect a policy-blast-from-the-past soon | ||
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Companion Cube
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On March 22 2012 08:34 Hassybaby wrote: ## Throw Companion Cube in Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator I'm so sorry! Sorry will never repair the rift you have decided to tear between us. We are not friends. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On March 22 2012 08:39 Companion Cube wrote: Sorry will never repair the rift you have decided to tear between us. We are not friends. don't worry cube, I got your back <3 | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Someone said that he actually wasn't the first one to bring up the possible changing wheatley win condition, but my point still stands, and even changes a bit now. + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2012 00:55 ghost_403 wrote: Just my thoughts on the Wheatly role: I'm not ever going to trust Wheatly. IIRC, Wheatly screws over Chell in Portal 2 by taking control of Aperture, despite his best intentions. I can see this going the same way. Wheatly begins the game by helping the town, then gets a new wincon where he has to kill us all or something. His post was phrased in a way that I thought he was the first one to bring it up. However, it turns out he wasn't, so then this post still looks weird. It's still baseless, and still useless, but the thought isn't even original now. This post contributes nothing to the discussion, and it still spreads distrust of the Wheatley role, before we even have any idea what it does. As well, I don't think the discussion on Wheatley changing victory conditions has any merit. We can't be 100% sure that Velinath was town to begin with, no matter how much we think so, so we need to continue scrutinizing him as the game goes on. So, him changing his victory condition, is no different than him being scum maintaining a well made facade, that only crumbles on later days. The point is that he only shows his scummy colours later into the game. The situations are analogous, so the Wheatley conjecture was a complete waste of time. Discussing it was just making posts that look like they're contributing, while they provide nothing at all. Next, is the flip-flopping on Drazerk and Dirk. Normally, I don't consider flip-flopping to be a scum-tell, and being on the Draz lynch doesn't make someone town, the same as being off it doesn't make them scum (depending on the reasons given). However, the way ghost_403 flip-flopped makes it look like he was worried about blending in to the crowd. He makes these posts, saying that he doesn't want to lynch Draz, but instead Dirk: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2012 00:24 ghost_403 wrote: Eventually. As of right now, he's no danger to the town. His roleclaim has told us that we don't really need to listen to him, and now that we have his death-flavor/whatever, we'll know when he kills people. If he starts killing townies, we lynch him. Otherwise, I think we should leave him alone and concentrate on finding people who are a threat to the town. On March 18 2012 01:13 ghost_403 wrote: Drazerk never had to claim. Clearly, he didn't think that he was a threat to the town, at least for the time being. Focusing on lynching him out of the game right now is counterproductive. Today, we need to be more concerned about electing a Wheatly and finding a good lynch, rather than focus on some neutered third party. ##elect velinath because he seems to understand this. On March 18 2012 01:30 ghost_403 wrote: @JJ - I agree with you that Drazerk is a safe lynch, but I don't think it's optimal town play. Saying 16hrs into Day 1 that we should lynch a third party because it's safe discourages discussion about possible lynches. Because of that, even though you are right, I am going to say that I will not vote Drazerk today. Eventually, he will have to go, but as for right now we need to focus on scum. As for your second point that a newb would be a safer Wheatly vote, I don't know how I feel about that. That just screams to the scum to push a newb on their team for the position, which makes then as dangerous, maybe even more dangerous, as a veteran. Right now, Velinath seems like a better option to me, but I reserve the right to change my vote is someone better comes to light. On March 18 2012 22:06 ghost_403 wrote: I still don't think Drazerk is scum. By claiming his role, he's put a timer on himself. It's not a question of if we'll lynch him, it's a question of when. He's got until then to kill Gandalf and get out of the game. In addition, he's removed his ability to persuade the town on any votes. We're not going to listen to him. At best, he's third party. Drazerk is a safe lynch. Let's leave him alone for the time being, and focus on finding scum. I'm going to take a minute or two to read up and weigh in on a Dirk lynch. On March 18 2012 22:13 ghost_403 wrote: I think we could do a lot worse than lynching Dirk. He's either a lazy/useless townie or scum. I'm running out the door at the moment, so I'll put some more thought into it when I get back. These posts are all consistent. Also, notice that he's saying Dirk is the better lynch, even after he knows that Drazerk is third-party. There's nothing wrong with this intrinsically, but what follows makes ghost_403 look pretty scummy to me. After the lynch looks like it's pretty set on Drazerk, and Draz begins his rampage through the thread, this is when ghost_403 decides to hop onto the wagon: On March 19 2012 01:38 ghost_403 wrote: Sigh. I try to lynch insane play, and it turns out he's a townie. (last game) I try not to lynch insane play, and he admits to being scum. Just can't win. ##vote: Drazerk And he turns around on his read on Dirk: On March 20 2012 05:59 ghost_403 wrote: A quick note for Nisani and Maverick: There was no good reason for me to post on why I though Dirk was scummy when I got back. When I returned to the thread, Draz had gone off the deepend, and needed to go IMO. When Draz was a neutral third party, I didn't see the point in offing him; he's just going to sit around and ignore us for the most part. Then, he tells us that he's starting to help the sleeper cell. That's when he changed from neutral to dangerous, and that's why I switched a vote. As far as my thoughts on Dirk: not impressed, but not ready to lynch him. A few of his posts have been aggressive and poorly thought out. For example, this one, where he says we should lynch anyone who was not immediately on board the Draz lynch. That's terrible play for a lot of reasons. Right now, I'm leaning stupid aggressive townie as opposed to scum, but I'm willing to change my positions if he does something really stupid. If he got vig'd, I'd say no big loss. ghost_403 was still ready to lynch someone else instead of Drazerk, even after he claimed third party, and never gave any indication that he thought that Dirk was a bad lynch, or that Drazerk was a better one until these posts. Interesting to note, is the timing of these posts. These come only after many people all decided to hop onto the Drazerk lynch, and others, notably active posters like JayJay and Gonzaw, said in the last few pages that they didn't like the Dirk lynch. More than anything, this looks like someone who was trying to push a view-point, but seeing that not many people supported it, and others actively thought the opposite, he decided to jump ship and flip-flop in order to hide in the crowd. There is no intermediate reasoning for either of his changes in reads, only a complete turnaround on both of them, that seems to come out of thin air. This tells me that ghost_403 is conscious of sticking out, and wants to remain hidden, which suggests that he is scum, and even further, likely third-party or sleeper cell. That's my reasoning for thinking that ghost_403 is scum, and was a good lynch for day 2. Like I said, I was busy, so I didn't have time to write this all up yesterday, and only had something like 15-20 minutes of free time this morning. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On March 22 2012 09:08 Bluelightz wrote: GG, I know how you feel grack xD. I don't even know what you mean by this lol. Either way, you're dead so We're done here.  | ||
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Toad_in_Pink_Dress
United States50 Posts
, also that companion cube so qt <3 <3 <3 lol failed this is from Blue | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
I had to throw my best friend in there.... | ||
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