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sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 23 2012 16:13 GMT
#1651
jayjay isnt scummy anymore
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 23 2012 18:29 GMT
#1658
On March 24 2012 01:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Okay, I'm here. I believe today's best target for a lynch is Sinani. After he was targeted by JayJay's shot, it sorta made sense that he'd stop posting. If he was scum, whatever he said would be disregarded as soon as the flip came up and if he was town, he could still contribute, but there was no pressure to prove himself as town. He could make his reads and vote without giving satisfaction to anyone.
The thing is: he's alive. And, in fact he knew he would be alive from the very beginning (he asked Jayjay if his shot is unblockable on day 1). If he was town, he could have tried to post/contribute during day 2. If he managed to regain the trust of the town, he could even have claimed his item and that he was going to live. Why not do these things?
##Vote: sinani206

I don't like the ghost case at all and am slightly unconvinced on the Nisani case. Another point is that it still might be worthwhile to lynch Kenpachi later if we need information as to the consequences of voting Glados.

For everyone (especialy Hassybaby, who frankly hasn't done much despite 5 pages of filter) who has questioned why I entered the bandwagon so late, it was more of a question of why not. On day 1 Drazerk ended the day acting like an idiot so I ended up voting for him, but I still saw Kenpachi as a better lynch. On day 2 I didn't want to vote for bluelightz at first suspicion. I only logged on again (on day 2) with an hour left to read the day's discussion and see if there was reason to change my mind. Note, though, that my vote was totally irrelevant on both cases. What did you want me to do? Actually lay down my vote for Kenpachi day 1? Or vote for someone entirely random on day 2, going against what I was saying/my read? The bandwagon was done at that point and my vote had no meaning whatsoever. Think of it what you will.

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On March 23 2012 23:51 MidnightGladius wrote:
Sbrubbles looks like the next good lurker lynch, but there's a good chance he will be Burned to Death, at this rate.


I realize that my play so far would warrant a lurker lynch/shot, but why do you think "Burned to Death" is a town KP? Willz wasn't posting much but at least it had quality. I might be going out on a limb, but I don't think town has KP, except maybe for an item-related abilities, like the lemons.


I did try to ask people stuff on Day 2, but no one would respond, because of Jayjay. That's why I was mad at him and accused him.
But now I realize he was simply trying to help town. That's why I said he wasn't as scummy anymore.
Either way, I'm not scum.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 24 2012 05:05 GMT
#1671
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On March 24 2012 10:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On March 24 2012 00:52 ghost_403 wrote:
I want to hear Mr. Wiggles weigh in on the Ghost/Nisani situation we have going on here.

He posts a case against me at the beginning of Night 2. I respond to his case. A bit later, Nisani chimes in calling me scum (page 80 for reference). Next page, Wiggles makes some general posts regarding watching/following whatever, and ignores my rebuttal and all of the Nisani/Ghost back and forth on the previous page. Strange, considering how he's been positive I'm scum since Day 2.

(If anyone's interested, I can reference posts, but I'm too lazy to do this right now. Ask and you shall receive.)

I feel better about you now after your response. Unlike your earlier posts, they actually give a reason for your massive swings in opinion. While I don't agree with your reasoning, you actually showed you had reasoning, and your actions are consistent with it. So, this explains the giant discontinuity for me. Also, you don't need to be more verbose in your posts, you just need to actually show continuity in your thoughts and explain why you've changed your mind if it's on something significant.

Nisani looks pretty bad to me, but I think Sinani looks worse. I'm still trying to decide though, but that's how I'm leaning. These two posts just look scummy as hell:

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On March 20 2012 12:35 sinani206 wrote:
Hmmmm.... Jayjay, is your kill unblockable?
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On March 21 2012 08:56 sinani206 wrote:
Jayjay, now that you're here, can you answer my question?

The two scenarios I have in mind, are that sinani is either telling the truth, and is town, or he's scum on a team with some kind of protection, or just scum and telling the truth about his item.

I did claim shot and that my long fall boots protected me.
Also, Nisani is scum.
If he's town:
Why would you ask this question? The only reason would be if you had important info to drop on the thread if the shot was unblockable and you were going to die. The shot's already coming to you either way, so when it hits, you'll either live or you won't. From what I can see, JayJay never actually answers his question. However, Sinani doesn't drop any info on the thread. He doesn't claim results, he doesn't give all his reads, he doesn't do anything at all, but act like the shot never existed. This doesn't' make sense from a town perspective, especially after you ask if the shot will actually kill you or not, which means you're concerned about your death, and have some reason for needing to know.

If he's scum:
This question makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective given his follow-up. If scum have a medic, he wants to know if he can block the shot or not, because if it's unblockable there's no point using their protect there. If he just has an extra life as any kind of scum, he wants to know, because it could change how he acts, if he's trying to achieve a specific win condition, or simply so his team can plan around whether he lives or not. In either of these scenarios, his follow-up makes sense. There's no reason for him to give any sort of information to the thread, because it doesn't further his win condition. He just wants to know so he can either get his team to protect him, or plan around how much time he has alive. Either way, it's based off selfish reasons, and not reasons that have the best in mind for town.

I see this as pretty damning.


I did claim that I was shot and the long-fall boots protected me at the beginning of the day.

Also, I don't want to vote for myself, and as usual, I am one of the two major lynch candidates.

##Vote: Nisani201
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 24 2012 15:28 GMT
#1704
On March 24 2012 15:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:05 sinani206 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 24 2012 10:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 00:52 ghost_403 wrote:
I want to hear Mr. Wiggles weigh in on the Ghost/Nisani situation we have going on here.

He posts a case against me at the beginning of Night 2. I respond to his case. A bit later, Nisani chimes in calling me scum (page 80 for reference). Next page, Wiggles makes some general posts regarding watching/following whatever, and ignores my rebuttal and all of the Nisani/Ghost back and forth on the previous page. Strange, considering how he's been positive I'm scum since Day 2.

(If anyone's interested, I can reference posts, but I'm too lazy to do this right now. Ask and you shall receive.)

I feel better about you now after your response. Unlike your earlier posts, they actually give a reason for your massive swings in opinion. While I don't agree with your reasoning, you actually showed you had reasoning, and your actions are consistent with it. So, this explains the giant discontinuity for me. Also, you don't need to be more verbose in your posts, you just need to actually show continuity in your thoughts and explain why you've changed your mind if it's on something significant.

Nisani looks pretty bad to me, but I think Sinani looks worse. I'm still trying to decide though, but that's how I'm leaning. These two posts just look scummy as hell:

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On March 20 2012 12:35 sinani206 wrote:
Hmmmm.... Jayjay, is your kill unblockable?
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 08:56 sinani206 wrote:
Jayjay, now that you're here, can you answer my question?

The two scenarios I have in mind, are that sinani is either telling the truth, and is town, or he's scum on a team with some kind of protection, or just scum and telling the truth about his item.

I did claim shot and that my long fall boots protected me.
Also, Nisani is scum.
If he's town:
Why would you ask this question? The only reason would be if you had important info to drop on the thread if the shot was unblockable and you were going to die. The shot's already coming to you either way, so when it hits, you'll either live or you won't. From what I can see, JayJay never actually answers his question. However, Sinani doesn't drop any info on the thread. He doesn't claim results, he doesn't give all his reads, he doesn't do anything at all, but act like the shot never existed. This doesn't' make sense from a town perspective, especially after you ask if the shot will actually kill you or not, which means you're concerned about your death, and have some reason for needing to know.

If he's scum:
This question makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective given his follow-up. If scum have a medic, he wants to know if he can block the shot or not, because if it's unblockable there's no point using their protect there. If he just has an extra life as any kind of scum, he wants to know, because it could change how he acts, if he's trying to achieve a specific win condition, or simply so his team can plan around whether he lives or not. In either of these scenarios, his follow-up makes sense. There's no reason for him to give any sort of information to the thread, because it doesn't further his win condition. He just wants to know so he can either get his team to protect him, or plan around how much time he has alive. Either way, it's based off selfish reasons, and not reasons that have the best in mind for town.

I see this as pretty damning.


I did claim that I was shot and the long-fall boots protected me at the beginning of the day.

Also, I don't want to vote for myself, and as usual, I am one of the two major lynch candidates.

##Vote: Nisani201

What does that have to do with anything? The point is you were very concerned with whether JayJay's shot would go through protection, and when he never told you, you didn't follow it up in the same way I'd expect a townie to after asking something like that. That implies that you had an ulterior motive in asking that wasn't pro-town.

I'd like to hear from you, though. Why'd you ask JayJay that question? Not once, but twice.

##Vote: sinani206


because i wanted to know if i was for sure dead or not
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 25 2012 00:50 GMT
#1787
g.g.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
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