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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 02 2012 16:31 GMT
#2321
Well, your aggressive tunnelling towards me has successfully wasted a good part of the last half of the day cycle. Basically you've allowed no discussion at all otherwise today. No one has been pressured to talk and therefore, most haven't said much of anything except me and you. So what if your wrong Phagga? What direction can the town go in?

At best another townie will be killed, at worse its end game. Also you lose my DT for the night, if mafia decides not to kill me. (Factual core anyone?) At least you make mafia decide between me soaking a shot because im blue, or killing someone with town cred on the right track.

If your mafia congratz on leading the whole town down shit creek. If your town, you should really take a look at your game-play again, as the day where the lynch is most important has been wasted on tunnelling rather than discussion/analysis of everyone.

That being said, I'm back to work and off to dinner afterwards. So I might not be able to further post after this, if I end up dead. GL town I think your gunna need it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#2322
Lol, you must be kidding me. JJ voted you first, but I am the one leading town down? Also the only reason why our little discussion seems to dominate the thread is because the activity is very low. Its not like I have pushed you all D6, i actuallyvoted Foolishness first. Also, you asked why you are being voted on, and I answered. Your rage towards me is uncalled for, and seems a desperate attempt when you have no arguments left.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
April 02 2012 18:29 GMT
#2323
We need to consolidate the votes. Anyone not voting for Maverick or Mementoss should switch now because we don't want a no-lynch.

@Foolishness - I would have made a bulletproof vest if you suggested one. Also I was not informed of taking a hit last night.
Enjoy your day.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 02 2012 21:11 GMT
#2324
Da Da Dummm

Mementoss (3): Jayjay54, phagga, Foolishness

Maverick32x (2): Nisani201, Mementoss

phagga (1): Maverick32x

It takes four!
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
April 02 2012 21:22 GMT
#2325
On April 02 2012 21:40 phagga wrote:
JayJay54: He defends me, so he must be town. End of analysis.




Seriously, I saw JayJay54 as town pretty early in the game (I gave him my Lemon D1/N1 which I received upon the start of the game). I did grow a bit cautious with him over time, and so here is a short analysis on his way too long filter (seriously, 14 pages? That's roughly 8.2% of all posts!)

His stances on some other people, and mind you, these are not all he commented on:
- Sinani: Already pointed him out D1, shot him N1, Derped the kill. Was completely transparent about it.
- Bluelightz: suspected him early (towards end of D1), calls him out again D2, calls him a reasonable Target D2.
- Blubbdavid: suppected him early (towards end of D1), mentiones him a second time 50 min later. Some banter between the two. He is unsure D2. After the colour radiator, he is his second target.
- Kenpachi: says he is useless regardless of alignement on D1. wants to lynch him last of the colour radiator group.
- Nisani: says he underperforms on D2, calls him a reasonable Target D2. Attacks him hard D3 and votes him, too. When he voted him, Nisani led the vote with 3 votes.
- Mr. Wiggles: Disagrees with the case from Kita, says he could me more active though. Calls him scary (N3 I think?), lynches him D4 as the first of the colour radiator group.
- Adam: accuses him of not being active enough as in other games, calls him a reasonable Target D2.
- ghost_403: says his posts are fluff D2.
- Paperscraps: Soft defends him when Kita attacks him.
- Dirk: Defended Dirk D1 because he thought he brought up a good point. Changes his view on him N1 after Dirk attacks Grack for no reason, but still does not want to lynch him D2, because he got masoned by him. Softdefends him several times D2 & D3 because of his ability. Accuses him somewhere around N3 of being third, clearly states that he doubts Dirk is cell or mafia. He repeats this on D4. After the colour radiator has been used he refuses to lynch Dirk on D4 (he decides lynch D4) because he wants to kill cell and he thinks that Dirk is scum. On D5 he suddenly changes his mind and says that Dirk is probably cell, not scum. He then proposes blubbdavid as lynch target who he thinks "has the higher chance to belong to the actual scum team and is the better choice."

What really stands out is his that he defended Dirk very long and Paperscraps a bit as well. However, He voted Bluelightz when he was at 5 votes and therefore far from being a safe lynch.

He trusted Hassy very fast. He had some back and forth with kita, but nothing wild really. Unlike others, he stated his reads on a lot of people. His argumentation looks rather pro-town, and the activity is through the roof which is very unusual for scum. His reads, however, were quite off most of the time. The whole "Dirk" story makes me cautios, I don't like how he treated that. Nevertheless, I don't think he is scum, and there is for sure at least one better target than him. Therefore, I do not want to lynch him today.

Jayjay, what really interests me: You already half-claimed your role, may we know what your role name is?


ok, I feel the need to comment on this, even though I actually don't need to.

I actually am content with my reads so far.

Sinani was a misread a lot of townies shared.
The small pressure on adam made him show his a game later on and I think calling somebody out for that helps town, same with ghost (who I didn't push). I never mention adam after he picks up his game.

You also make the mistake of saying that not scum = town. In like the only post on paperscraps which you said was softdefending paper, I actually point that out. I did not defend him whatsoever

I state a billion times that dirk is not scum, but may be cell, because of the ability and the flavour of it. And I still think it was odd. I wanted to have a good chance of hitting anti town and I ruled out that he was scum which was a false assumption and I said that he didn't use the QT cell wise (which was actually true). If you tell the story, tell it right.

Overall, I was right on blue and the list order later on...which is at least decent (it's my second game as town...). So I am glad with my play, don't tell me I am bad

On April 02 2012 23:59 Mementoss wrote:
What? This was before Kita's role was revealed. As far as I knew at the time I protected Dirk from a regular vig shot.

I feel right now that I am getting targeted for being bad town, rather than being scummy. The votes are all easily floating to me, as the remaining scum (most likely a mafia and a sleeper) would rather not use a night KP on me, when they can just bandwagon me out on the lynch. Most people aren't even explaining how I am more suspicious than anyone else that should be on the radar. There just like Mementoss? Seems like a decent lynch tonight.

Probably looking to get rid of me now than ever, since the last 2 nights Nisanis haven't worked/couldn't be used, I am now more favourable to the town. Also I have just come into possession with new cores (equipped last night as action), Factual and Intelligence. Which just by name seem a lot more powerful than the medic/track I had before (haven't used very successfully). So if I die, I will most likely be the towns last blue, and it will be 3-1-1. If sleeper has KP left this game could be over after the night cycle.


Reminds me of the post david did before he died. It involves fearmongering (hey we loose, if we lynch me) instead of finding other scum . And reeks of the feeling of being caught.

Also, he indicates that he doesn't know what the core does and then posts one post later states he is a DT...seems odd and desperate.

I think he is our guy... Nisani or Mav....Switch!

I won't be around for lynch, since I started a new job today and need some rest...can't afford to stay awake until 1am and getting up at 6.




Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
April 02 2012 21:24 GMT
#2326
On April 03 2012 03:29 Nisani201 wrote:
We need to consolidate the votes. Anyone not voting for Maverick or Mementoss should switch now because we don't want a no-lynch.

@Foolishness - I would have made a bulletproof vest if you suggested one. Also I was not informed of taking a hit last night.


how about you switch...I mean we need two switches for mav....
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 02 2012 23:00 GMT
#2327
Night 6

[image loading]



There was no lynch!!!





Final Vote Count!

Mementoss (3): Jayjay54, phagga, Foolishness

Maverick32x (2): Nisani201, Mementoss

phagga (1): Maverick32x





It is now night 7! PM me if you would like to have the game switch to a 24/24 cycle!
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
April 02 2012 23:43 GMT
#2328
derp
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
April 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#2329
all in favor of me making a bulletproof vest say aye.
Enjoy your day.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 03 2012 06:13 GMT
#2330
On April 02 2012 13:21 Maverick32x wrote:
If you think it will make you a scum target- then no... but I'm just pointing out a trend..


I am Magikarp, a Pokémon. I was told that I can level up and finally evolve into Gyarados and learn the surf-power by having my vote sometime during the day on the person that gets lynched that day. However, I voted 5 times on the person that got lynched, and still have not leveled up, so I don't know if it is ever gonna happen. And as I might not get another chance to vote on a person that gets lynched I might as well claim now. I hinted at this "condition" of sort of my role here (I was surprised that noone asked about that).


I asked the hosts what the surf-power does (because I thought I might turn into a blue role), but received the answer that nothing really special happens and that I'm just VT. I hinted at this here. I was not sure if I could trust the host (they're GLaDOS, after all), so I just tried to see if I can level up and if it does something special. Nothing has happened so far.

tldr; I'm a Vanilla Townie
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
April 03 2012 06:21 GMT
#2331
Derp indeed.

  • Nisani: I approve of a bulletproof vest or a Vigi item. However, as the vigi-item can be abused by mafia, I'd go for the bulletproof vest as we do not seem to have any vigi-shots left, so it won't affect town if mafia gets the item.

  • Mementoss: If you are indeed town, we could use some hero medic action tonight. At least that is my opinion. I probably would not trust any DT check of you anyway.





everyone else:
GET ACTIVE!
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 06:36:15
April 03 2012 06:36 GMT
#2332
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#2333
I approve bulletproof vest.

Advice taken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
April 03 2012 16:08 GMT
#2334
On April 03 2012 08:43 Nisani201 wrote:
derp


Derp indeed! You once more took an opportunity to screw town. Gratz. As you posted this:

On April 03 2012 03:29 Nisani201 wrote:
We need to consolidate the votes. Anyone not voting for Maverick or Mementoss should switch now because we don't want a no-lynch.

@Foolishness - I would have made a bulletproof vest if you suggested one. Also I was not informed of taking a hit last night.


The vote count was 3-2-1. You could have switched for your (as you indicate in your post) viable target mementoss to get him lynched. Instead you call out "ANYONE NOT VOTING FOR MAV OR MEMENTOSS" (say Maverick only). Nice. What happend this time? Did you again not look at the voting thread?

If you should happen to be town, you play terribly. But I doubt so.

On April 03 2012 10:34 Nisani201 wrote:
all in favor of me making a bulletproof vest say aye.


YAY more good ideas. I can't believe that people actually think this is a good idea (well, I do believe that mementoss thinks it is). Phagga come on, you're better than this.

Let's see. Player Nisani could give the bulletproof vest to: Phagga, Mav, Mem. Even if phagga is town as I think he is, it will easily be fetched by scum....This item is a terrrrrible idea.

Here's a good one. Designed for mementoss / mav:

Cursed Crown: Can't be giving away and only obtained through night kills. Vanished if player dies to lynch. Player can't use any night action whatsover and dies after one whole period.

This item can be given to scum (any good item will be obtained in a heartbeat or gets there rightaway). Make a bad item and give it to mementoss. if you're town, that's your chance to redeem yourself for your "I forgot that I actually can switch" vote...

I'll give Mav the Portal 2 gun on the other hand. It replaces night actions. He claims VT. If he gives it to anyone, he wants to use a night action and is confirmed scum!
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 03 2012 16:30 GMT
#2335
I didn't claim VT.. I claimed Cop.. but you're in luck because its a Day action, so I'm good with the portal gun.. sinceI do have it, is there anyone you want me to check with it?

As for your Cursed Crown item, isn't that just putting a death counter on someone? I guess I'm not seeing the usefulness of it....
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
April 03 2012 16:35 GMT
#2336
On April 04 2012 01:30 Maverick32x wrote:
I didn't claim VT.. I claimed Cop.. but you're in luck because its a Day action, so I'm good with the portal gun.. sinceI do have it, is there anyone you want me to check with it?

As for your Cursed Crown item, isn't that just putting a death counter on someone? I guess I'm not seeing the usefulness of it....


Ok cool. You can't use it if you don't have an action. This might actually help to prove your innocence...

yes, that's the point, a good item will get into scum hands either way....nisani should give it to memmentoss directly. it's negative and it will kill him. which is good.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
April 03 2012 16:35 GMT
#2337
and why didn't you switch your vote away from phagga? that made no sense.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
April 03 2012 16:51 GMT
#2338
Well I didn't want to vote for myself.. and I'm not entirely convinced that Mementoss is Scum/3rd party... In fact, I'm really continuing to lead towards Nisani.... I was suspcious of him awhile back before he claimed inventor... I actually tried to shoot him with a sentry gun that Midnight bought and traded to me from the black market... but only PM'ed 1 of the mods instead of all 3 and it didn't go through... Then he claimed inventor, and I felt like I shouldn't shoot him.... so I guess its kinda worked out.. but his inventions are highly suspect...


As for the Portal gun, so since I don't have a night action its useless? Was kind of hoping it would become my night action ;;
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
April 03 2012 18:22 GMT
#2339
I'll send in Cursed Crown and see if it's acceptable.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
April 03 2012 18:31 GMT
#2340
According to greymist it favors town too much. So that wont work. Sorry.
Enjoy your day.
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