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On March 15 2012 03:59 jaybrundage wrote:
I would like to lynch Kurumi or Katina

Kurumi for what i think could be a scum slip. As prplhz has pointed out his Rattata reference can be seen as mafia attracting the tratior or the tratior trying to call out mafia. I'm not sure why this has been glossed over quite so easily. Tratior has to be joined with the mafia and the sooner the better a free kill point for them.



He has been posting in polish and generally not really contributing. He puts a vote on node because he has put in much effort. But besides that makes little contributions the the thread. Then votes for Caller because he he say's he doesn't think we will see the flip. Is he planning to hide it as scum. Or does he think that Caller is bullshitting about the whole thing which seems unlikely and dumb.




Regarding Katina her first post she jumps on Mattchew. She makes a case and points fingers simply because she wants to
"fit in." So she makes a bad case on Matt with little to no reasoning saying his posts was just bad? Doesn't put any effort in it.

She calls out people for posting with no content, however she has no content of her own. This play style is very similar to how she played in BCAC. She constantly called out people with out posting any thing of her own.

She then calls out Node calling him on lack of content and flip flopping. Well this post has some merit. and Node has potential as red. I can totally see Katina pushing a teammate that has no content. Very similar to how she pushed her scum buddy sheth last game Also in BCAC.


She also tried to discredit a now confirmed townie VE

Overall I would like to lynch either one of them. Any thoughts questions

Oh and Palmar I would like you to PM me and roleclaim to me please.

On March 28 2012 08:23 Katina wrote:

Do you even read?

On March 28 2012 03:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


Question is meaningless. The amount of effort I put into the game based on personal factors is not indicative of anything besides how busy I am or are not.

Anyway, this is why I believe JB is scum or the traitor. There is a sharp change in his behavior. He begins the game with a very soft stance on LaL. When he comes under fire for what he's talking about, he pulls back a little bit. There is also this gem which is typical of scum "We are unlikely to get a mafia day one
So lynching a bad townie isn't to bad IF we choose to lynch him." TRANSLATION : When lurkers are lynched on the basis of being bad or just lurkers, it's very easy for scum to decide which lurkers are lynched. All they have to do, for example, is say "Hey, let's kill Abenson for lurking" instead of scum lurker Y and when it gets into late game they can swing each lynch where they want it. The problem with killing lurkers fast is that the best does not lead to lurker lynches, only the loudest voice does.





The part in bold is what worries me the most. Lynch lists are beyond useless, I remember going off on VE for pages about his in Storm which got him so upset he almost quit so I won't beat a dead horse, but I still think it's scummier than not. This post was so early in the game that calling out a lurker is worthless, not only that, he's suggesting we already lynch one of these players just for not posting early into the day.




Apologetic and wishy washy. This changes very fast.




Lots of posts like this. He's really just summarizing what's happening and adding useless comments.




Newfound confidence occurs after he goes after Kurumi. JB calling out Kurumi is what sparked his claim, this does not indicate that JB was town or anything. If this confirms JB to anyone then it must also confirm me because I pushed the case equally hard and voted for Kurumi as well. Don't have a double standard now. As a rule, I'm much less interested in who defends who than just who acts like scum. I'll second guess myself into a corner otherwise.

I never tried to play this lynch for town cred or to "confirm" myself and then fish role claims out of people. Are you kidding me? JB gets away with that?







Look at JB's logic here. This is the only post that makes me think "bad townie". He seems to genuinely view the game this way:

Town - Only bandwagon or vote for scum. Never vote for a town aligned player.
Scum - Only bandwagon or vote for town. If you vote for scum you're town, if you vote for town you're scum.

Katina is scum for pushing Node when a lot of people suspected him? And me and JB are town because we got Kurumi lynched who was scum? Sorry, that's not how mafia works.




Trying to discredit a townie? Again, more making cases based on the assumption that he is confirmed. Unbelievable.

JB continues down this path. I believe JB was the traitor, probably rolechecked by scum Night 1 which explains his behavior coming out on Day 2. If Kurumi wasn't a planned bus, it could be a sloppy bus. I was sloppily bussed in HP Mafia and did a sloppy bus on LSB in that game too iirc. Basically, one player says "I'm just gonna bus Kurumi" but the rest of the scum don't go along with it, maybe some do or some don't, or see a chance to make mislynch/nolynch happen near the end and fuck with the vote. It could be any number of reasons.

There is no denying JB had a sharp change of attitude from wishy washy/apologetic and only commentating on nothings/policies to brash, aggressive, confident, arrogant even pushing people and trying to force everyone to think he's confirmed based on nothing more than the fact that he posted a case on someone who was scum. Something I also did. Twice. If you think JB is town and I'm not JUST because I was busy and rude for a little bit (not too strange for me, I've almost been modkilled for rudeness and flaming as town before) and the fact that I PM'd Kurumi because I THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM AND THEN PUSHED HIS LYNCH DAY 2 you are a jubjub.

On March 16 2012 16:46 jaybrundage wrote:
First off I'm not begging for town cred. I'm demanding it.
I did push Kurumi. But don't worry hopefully I'll get another scum tomorrow. Speaking of scum your looking pretty scummy there buddy. Want to go on the docket?

Lets see didnt vote for Kurumi check. Trying to discredit a townie check.

Let me ask you think ET do you think Katina is scummy and why.

Im assuming your answer is going to be no because you know your her scum buddy.

And um yea thats about it :D