• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:05
CEST 16:05
KST 23:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League31Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1275.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Terran AddOns placement How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Practice Partners (Official) Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9919 users

Newbie Mini Mafia V - Page 19

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 27 Next All
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 09 2012 01:44 GMT
#361
I am parallely playing another Mafia game atm and people there do that all the time.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
March 09 2012 01:52 GMT
#362
On March 09 2012 10:43 trackd00r wrote:
Blubb, I'm completely serious.

Don't you believe the facts? Don't you find scummy that Sufficiency went in minutes before a lynch and just voted, ignoring completely any current discussion?

You are making no sense to me now. Neither Sufficiency is.

Mave, Willz, please. The evidence is right in front of your eyes. Change your vote

You believe your read on Gunman to be wrong?
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
March 09 2012 01:57 GMT
#363
On March 09 2012 10:52 DimmuKlok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 10:43 trackd00r wrote:
Blubb, I'm completely serious.

Don't you believe the facts? Don't you find scummy that Sufficiency went in minutes before a lynch and just voted, ignoring completely any current discussion?

You are making no sense to me now. Neither Sufficiency is.

Mave, Willz, please. The evidence is right in front of your eyes. Change your vote

You believe your read on Gunman to be wrong?

Because if you don't, there is no reason for you to be pushing this right now. He can be lynched next. Did Sufficiency voting on Gunman last minute make Gunman innocent, or was Sufficiency making the only obvious choice?
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
March 09 2012 01:59 GMT
#364
I'll try to give more explanations later, but I'll change my vote again.
''They put signs, but I can't read''
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 09 2012 02:03 GMT
#365
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIMzrzHF3-Y&feature=related

Night Three


Lord Zedd was sick of Rita's incompetence. She clearly was no match for the Power Rangers. He decided to give her one last chance to prove herself.

In an act of desperation, she summoned her secret weapon; the Green Ranger! Unfortunately for her, he never showed up. Back to the dumpster for gunman.

gunman103 the Rita Repulsa (Mafia goon) has been lynched.
Pablols the Green Ranger (Miller) has been modkilled. Sucks to be Tommy.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
March 09 2012 02:09 GMT
#366
Wooow.... Nice.

Well, whoops sorry about that situation last pages. I just got out of control.

Going to sleep now.
''They put signs, but I can't read''
DimmuKlok
Profile Joined June 2010
United States225 Posts
March 09 2012 02:14 GMT
#367
On March 09 2012 11:09 trackd00r wrote:
Wooow.... Nice.

Well, whoops sorry about that situation last pages. I just got out of control.

Going to sleep now.

If that's the best explanation you have for what just happened, then thanks for making the search for the next mafia so easy.

Sufficiency, now would be a good time to hear your side of the story.
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 09 2012 02:35 GMT
#368
haha @ Dim

NICE WORK GUYS!!! YA!!! :D

disappointing that Pablols died.. but nice work!!!! We are one step closer!! So proud of you guys <3
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
willz22912
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
March 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#369
While I'm glad this game is going to go on, it's just getting more and more frustrating to play with some people just barely contributing. I checked this thread this morning and had little activity until I checked an hour before deadline to see who to actually vote for. Then I check now and suddenly theres so many posts.

I have no other read on Sufficiency besides his lack of posting and his previous behavior, and it seems like he's our only concrete suspect at this time. Guess we'll see who gets killed off this Night...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 09 2012 03:31 GMT
#370
Randomly followed on the votes and got a mafia lynched. Go me!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
gunman103
Profile Joined February 2011
United States84 Posts
March 09 2012 03:47 GMT
#371
It has been an interesting game thus far. I will definatly be watching how the game progresses. Anyway, glhf every one. Never give up, never surrender and all that good stuff. And give 'em hell for me you scummy badasses. Also, Can I still talk or look in the scum only chat?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 09 2012 04:27 GMT
#372
On March 09 2012 12:47 gunman103 wrote:
It has been an interesting game thus far. I will definatly be watching how the game progresses. Anyway, glhf every one. Never give up, never surrender and all that good stuff. And give 'em hell for me you scummy badasses. Also, Can I still talk or look in the scum only chat?


You may continue to observe, but communicating with your scum buddies regarding strategy is no longer allowed. Just a reminder, please limit death posts to a "gl hf". Thanks!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 09 2012 12:50 GMT
#373
Now I really want to hear from trackdoor why he wanted to prevent the lynch on gunman so eagerly.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 09 2012 16:58 GMT
#374
Indeed... here are my latest thoughts...

Now that we have a confirmed Mafia.. its really time to check those filters!! I'm going to organize this read based off who Gunman has talked about/accussed/supported.

5.) willz22912 Filter (replaced Tiystus)- Accused Tiystus (willz's double) pretty hard. Targeted him as #1..


Ok, thats it!! Wow, he really was a lurker!! haha

Since I don't want this to just be a 2 sentence post, lets look at Trackd00r a bit closer and see what we can dig up-

He does make a pretty big post against Gunman!! Which I think is really important.. given that this is before his major freakout/break near the end of the voting...

5.) willz22912 Filter (replaced Tiystus)- Targets early on...
6.) DimmuKlok Filter- Gets a little fiesty against Dim..
7.) Sufficiency Filter- Says he thinks sufficiency is town.... Kinda starts to think that its a good idea to lynch sufficieny...But then immediatly switches to say he's 'not dangerous' Pretty wishy-washy..
9.) Maverick32x Filter- kind of supportive early on? ..
12.) blubbdavid Filter(replaced beorn1)

Checking his filters also- he CONSISTENTLY targets Gunman... Why would he target mafia the whole time?

I'm going to give a couple general reads before the night ends.. in case I die!!

5.) willz22912 Filter Town.
6.) DimmuKlok Filter- Scum
7.) Sufficiency Filter- Scum
10.) trackd00r Filter- Town
12.) blubbdavid Filter- Town

Boom. That is what it is. I think this is the only way it can happen... Allow me to explain-

Willz- was targetting VERY early on by Gunman at a time when ANYONE could of been voted out. This would not of happened if Gunman and Willz were together...

Gunman NEVER accused any of the likely scum that I posted above. In fact he was supportive of Dim, and NEVER brought up Sufficiency despite claiming that he wanted to lynch lurkers, and sufficiency is the BIGGEST lurker of them all...

Dim- This one kind of breaks my heart because for a long time I really thought Dim was town.. but allow me to explain. Dim targetted Trackd00r at the end of this rant. That means that him and Trackd00r can not be mafia. Dim also votes randomly for Beorn for being a lurker... The only other person who voted for Beorn was... Sufficiency!! (Starting to see the connection?) He defends sufficiency- and NEVER accusses him.. Dim and Sufficiency have a connection.

Sufficiency- Just a lurker. The case against him in the things he says are weak.. its how others interact with him that is important.. though I suppose lurking is kind of evidence in itself...

Trackd00r- He had his freak out at the end which kind of paints him poorly.. HOWEVER- consider the lengthy post that he made before he freaked out that outlines a lot of reasons to target Gunman... I find this behavior suspicious.. but I don't think he was trying to change the vote.. but rather felt strongly that sufficiency was mafia (which I think he is correct in)

Blubb- Based off my above statement, If Blubb was mafia, and trackd00r was mafia, he would not of jumped on Trackd00r that much.... Leaning towards Dim, which means they are probably not the 'same' despite both being suspicious of Trackd00r....Targets sufficiency... Likely not with Sufficiency and Dim because they both voted against him (in a former life when he was Beorn)..

Either way, if I die tonight- those are my reads. and I feel VERY strongly about them. One of the biggest parts of this is that you can't really re-arrange Mafia in other way that makes sense... Check those filters and see how everyone matches up.


Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
March 09 2012 18:26 GMT
#375
I'm giving my explanation.

In the reality, I wanted to lynch Gunman103.

I never dropped my suspicion of him. I knew that he was going to be lynched, since already had reached a majority and nothing really could prevent to turn it back. Now, with a lynch which I was very sure about, I decided to check the reaction of mafia players when I bring up another candidate. The ninja vote that Sufficiency made just 1 hour before the deadline was the perfect situation to see if Mafia is bussing Gun, or just let him die without putting themselves in the spotlight.

Apparently, Maverick , Pablols and Willz seemed to not be around at that time, so it left me with Blubb and Dimu. I presented some evidence that might be tempting enough for them, If they were, to switch and provoke another no lynch, and therefore likely claim their victory at night. After checking out what reactions they did say, I switched my vote back to Gun just one minute before the deadline to avoid and tension or the threat of a massive scum vote switch.

As Gunman flipped scum, I can safely now say that either Blubbdavid or Dimmuklok is a confirmed townie. None of them tried to switch a vote in an almost 100% safe lynch to prevent the death of a scum mate.

This is mostly speculation, but in an analytic fashion:

Given A is town and B is Mafia:

1) If A attempted to switch to gunman, B would quickly switch as well.

2) If B tried to switch, A would analyse the situation or asked me further explanations before switching its vote.

Now, if both players were Mafia and switched, me and them would directly fall down into the spotlight and one of us would be a totally potential lynch candidate day 4. And then they would easily turn against me and push out the mislynch. This case is very unlikely to happen, since chances to getting mafia lynched were 2/3, very risky IMO. But given situation (1), this is way more easier to pull off, since here is 2 town / 1 scum.

But let's get back to what actually happen. None of the players switched. Why? Because one of them doing so would make so obvious that he was protecting his scum mate. In the other hand, I don't see the point why if they both were mafia, didn't prevent the scum lynch, since together that was way less riskier and more justifiable to a certain degree.

Imagine both Dim and Blubb were scum. They were obviously coordinating their moves and waiting for the deadline with high nerves. It's safe to assume they were checking the voting thread for all that time. Wouldn't the completely Sufficiency vote caught their attention and see that as a good chance to save Gum? (please note: Even if sufficiency is scum or town, all would have ended in a no lynch if switched).

Now imagine of them as Scum. Risky move to make? Hell yes. I took the initiative and checked what moves they show, to see if they continue disguising themselves as townies or go ahead and make the big push to win.

That's some of the analysis and predictions I could make about their behavior. One of them is town, the other, scum.

Anyways, Sufficiency play is one of the most intriguing I've ever seen in my time at TL mafia.

I'll give my analysis and more information later into the night so my actions are not an influence to mafia's next target.
''They put signs, but I can't read''
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 09 2012 19:01 GMT
#376
I just looked through the filters on Dim again.. the only person that he never accused out of the remainders is Sufficiency and I guess me... but I find the sufficiency the weirdest because he was such a lurker and so many people were targetting him... when in fact Dim was defending him!!! I think we got this one :D
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 09 2012 19:22 GMT
#377
On March 10 2012 04:01 Maverick32x wrote:
I just looked through the filters on Dim again.. the only person that he never accused out of the remainders is Sufficiency and I guess me... but I find the sufficiency the weirdest because he was such a lurker and so many people were targetting him... when in fact Dim was defending him!!! I think we got this one :D


I am lurking because I find this game way too time-consuming now than what I initially thought it would take -- furthermore I am really busy these days.

I tried to ask to have me replaced, but according to the mod there are many people in front of me who wants to be replaced. That's why I stayed...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 09 2012 19:30 GMT
#378
So Sufficiency- who do you think is Mafia then?
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 09 2012 19:56 GMT
#379
My thoughts to trackdoor:
First of, very clever. Luring scum by making fake votes, and then that kind of prisoners dilemma.
On the other hand, you were kinda lucky that only Dimmu and me were on at that time.

To Sufficieny's behaviour I have to say that it happens often that someone just bandwagons in the last second. Imagine Suff would have voted for someone other than gunman, then we would be ripping his ass now.
Despite that, I am willing to lynch Suff this day.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 09 2012 20:03 GMT
#380
What do you think about my reads Blubb? I honestly don't see it going any other way than this- so I'm interested to hear who Dim and sufficiency think are the mafia.. because I'm 99.9% sure it is them!
Check out 'Gamer Therapy'!! 10CST: twitch.tv/Maverick32x
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:00
King of the Hill #265
EmpressLilyy74
Liquipedia
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
Not-Summer Championship
WardiTV776
TaKeTV 277
IndyStarCraft 237
TKL 223
Liquipedia
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 427
IndyStarCraft 237
TKL 223
SHIN 37
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 52646
Calm 4386
EffOrt 1000
Horang2 847
Mini 769
Soma 431
firebathero 412
Soulkey 389
Stork 364
BeSt 332
[ Show more ]
actioN 321
Snow 150
ggaemo 148
Hyuk 140
Last 115
Zeus 102
Sharp 88
Leta 73
Killer 67
Free 63
Shinee 59
Pusan 57
Hyun 56
910 54
Sea.KH 54
hero 53
PianO 38
Hm[arnc] 31
Barracks 31
Creator 29
ToSsGirL 24
Sexy 22
Sacsri 21
JYJ 19
HiyA 18
Trap 17
Bishop 12
Rock 11
sorry 11
yabsab 11
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4713
Dendi1186
420jenkins266
syndereN214
Other Games
singsing2412
B2W.Neo1571
Beastyqt510
Mlord381
Khaldor365
XaKoH 290
crisheroes218
KnowMe78
Fuzer 70
Hui .35
Liquid`Hasu12
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 19
• Response 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 5386
• WagamamaTV679
League of Legends
• Nemesis3589
Other Games
• tFFMrPink 5
Upcoming Events
IPSL
1h 55m
BSL Open Qualifier
4h 55m
WardiTV Weekly
20h 55m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 20h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
6 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.