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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 05 2012 23:07 GMT
#936
On March 06 2012 07:23 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 10:17 Chocolate wrote:
Should I vote to lynch you or...
I haven't been posting that much because the mafia is basically running the town now. I was thinking of getting myself modkilled to show you all my alignment so you would finally lynch my suspects, but I think it would be cheating because it's against my win condition, although it could help. Tomorrow I may do that if we really need to start lynching mafia.

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On March 05 2012 11:04 Chocolate wrote:
I have to go to bed and will put my vote on alderan because I don't want a no ylnch. I look forward to lynching hos accusers tomo and ask that the vigi shoot sloosh

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On March 05 2012 21:27 Chocolate wrote:
We dont need to anymore imo. Sloosh hopefully dies tonight, if he does I think we should lynch testsubject to see if his list is any good. Then we can finish with phagga and zell.

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On March 05 2012 21:44 Chocolate wrote:
Testsubjects list. Ganging up on me earlier. Being behind all the town lynches.


I can't even build a logical case off this since it makes no sense. What the heck is his mentality?
Assume he is a townie and imagine a townie thinking these things:
- "Oh we are almost at MYLO, we should really start lynching those mafia now"
- "I voted this guy so we don't get no lynch, but we should look to lynch everyone else who voted him"
- "Hey Vig you should shoot this guy. Why? Just trust me"
- "Hopefully the vig listened to me. Lets then lynch this other guy to see if his list is any good, and then lynch some of these other guys who don't like me"

Slight exaggerations aside his play is red through and through.

1. If we hadn't lynched him there wouldn't be nearly enough evidence to convict my main suspicions.
2. Same as the above. To expand upon that, a last minute switch away from him a la me would keep everyone in the dark.
3. If vig doesn't act soon we'll end up lynching him or he'll die from scum. I am suspicious of you for being behind a lot of town lynches, as I am also. You will note that I was against them, however, and voted them out of necessity so we could gain information. If I had my druthers I would not have lynched them.
4. If you flip red I see no reason not to lynch testsubject. I am reevaluating um position on zell but I am convinced that you, phagga, and test are scum.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 05 2012 23:20 GMT
#938
On March 05 2012 22:05 phagga wrote:
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On March 05 2012 21:44 Chocolate wrote:
Testsubjects list. Ganging up on me earlier. Being behind all the town lynches.


You voted on gumshoe and Alderan too. In fact, there was no need for you to vote either of them, as they would have been lynched with one vote less as well (and you were the last one to vote for Alderan 55 minutes before the deadline with an absolut joke of a reason). But I guess you did not want to risk that a townie would not get lynched, because you are scum

I just said this but I want to reiterate. I don't want last minute vote switches to deprive town of information. Please don't post accusations against me based on this theory-crafting.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 05 2012 23:25 GMT
#939
On March 06 2012 08:19 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 08:07 Chocolate wrote:
On March 06 2012 07:23 slOosh wrote:
On March 05 2012 10:17 Chocolate wrote:
Should I vote to lynch you or...
I haven't been posting that much because the mafia is basically running the town now. I was thinking of getting myself modkilled to show you all my alignment so you would finally lynch my suspects, but I think it would be cheating because it's against my win condition, although it could help. Tomorrow I may do that if we really need to start lynching mafia.

On March 05 2012 11:04 Chocolate wrote:
I have to go to bed and will put my vote on alderan because I don't want a no ylnch. I look forward to lynching hos accusers tomo and ask that the vigi shoot sloosh

On March 05 2012 21:27 Chocolate wrote:
We dont need to anymore imo. Sloosh hopefully dies tonight, if he does I think we should lynch testsubject to see if his list is any good. Then we can finish with phagga and zell.

On March 05 2012 21:44 Chocolate wrote:
Testsubjects list. Ganging up on me earlier. Being behind all the town lynches.


I can't even build a logical case off this since it makes no sense. What the heck is his mentality?
Assume he is a townie and imagine a townie thinking these things:
- "Oh we are almost at MYLO, we should really start lynching those mafia now"
- "I voted this guy so we don't get no lynch, but we should look to lynch everyone else who voted him"
- "Hey Vig you should shoot this guy. Why? Just trust me"
- "Hopefully the vig listened to me. Lets then lynch this other guy to see if his list is any good, and then lynch some of these other guys who don't like me"

Slight exaggerations aside his play is red through and through.

1. If we hadn't lynched him there wouldn't be nearly enough evidence to convict my main suspicions.
2. Same as the above. To expand upon that, a last minute switch away from him a la me would keep everyone in the dark.
3. If vig doesn't act soon we'll end up lynching him or he'll die from scum. I am suspicious of you for being behind a lot of town lynches, as I am also. You will note that I was against them, however, and voted them out of necessity so we could gain information. If I had my druthers I would not have lynched them.
4. If you flip red I see no reason not to lynch testsubject. I am reevaluating um position on zell but I am convinced that you, phagga, and test are scum.


Lynching people for information and evidence for your cases?
Lynching someone you think is town when we are so close to MYLO/LYLO?
Directing vig without reasoning or a case?
Lynching someone to decide if lynching someone else is a good idea?

I don't think so. There's absolutely no reason why you would think and act like this if you were town.

Ok, so we don't lynch Alderan. We don't know about him, we don't know about the people who pushed him for his lynch.
We lynched him, we know his alignment (town), and we know that you have been behind (early) two mislynches that town knows of (and three to me). Lynching him was fine as close as we are to mylo because it was the nail in the coffin that will allow us to finally get all the scum. I was directing vig for the reasons Alderan outlined and to get more info. Lynching test doesn't seem to be a bad idea either because you are defending him and his list was just terrible.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 05 2012 23:27 GMT
#940
Also guys, don't think me still existing is a coincidence. Now that we are so close to getting the mafia they are reverting to someone they had a strong case against earlier, but couldn't quite get the job done, to distract you all.

Sloosh which 4 people do you most think are scum? I presume DYH and I top the list.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 05 2012 23:38 GMT
#941
Be back in 2.5hr
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 06 2012 01:32 GMT
#944
Sloosh, you say we can only lynch one at a time but you don't see any 2 people you think could complete our mafia team? It's best to think in teams considering we are so close to the end one way or another.

I don't have time to post proper cases as of late, but I dont see why you need one, you have made several errors that can be quickly and eadily outlined. You are going against your meta (not too big a deal) by posting less, you were behind toen lynches and my own early on, and you posted a case against DYH that wasnt very good. Honestly 2 is all I would need but 1 and 3 make things worse considering I think dyh is town.

Just give me 2more on the scum team
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 06 2012 02:33 GMT
#945
I guess he is just afraid of posting them now but lynching them later. I don't see how not postung reads is protown, but whatever. Hopefully he dies in 30minutes.

Should I die my opinions still stand. Of the 5 dyh posted I endorse all of them, not sure about ghost though. Good night
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 06 2012 22:21 GMT
#966
On March 07 2012 01:52 NightFury wrote:
I was extremely busy yesterday and will be at work for at least another 6 hours. I plan on being very active tonight and expect to hear from me.

Just wanted to say one thing before resuming work just from skimming. I really doubt there is a godfather this game. If we have a DT, I believe all your townie checks are reliable. The basis for this statement is the fact that we have a confirmed RoleBlocker. There is no reason for zel to claim he got RBed twice since he was town. If you look at numerous other mini mafia games (both newbie or otherwise), I have not found a single one that included more than one red role above mafia goon. Is it still possible that there is a godfather? Yes. Do I find it extremely unlikely? Yes.

I agree, the possibility of there being a godfather is low. I am surprised that there is not a vigilante though, but the vigilante could have just had cold feet yesterday.

On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote:
Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject.

Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus.

##Vote: slOosh

Don't speak for testsubject yet, but I do agree that he is probably scum and will most likely align with them. As someone already mentioned, he hasn't posted for a while.

I will also vote for sloosh now.
##vote:sloosh
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 06 2012 22:24 GMT
#967
I would again like to bring up that sloosh hasn't posted the two other people he thinks are scum
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 07 2012 23:27 GMT
#990
On March 08 2012 07:51 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:25 ghost_403 wrote:
##vote: sloosh

If we lose, I blame the town.

If we don't, whoo! I get a whole 'nother day to convince DYH not to lynch me.

And ghost I can't believe you could take such a lackadaisical approach to the endgame.
Voting chocolate buys us another day of discussion if you still aren't convinced that DYH is mafia.
Don't just give up now.

That is assuming I am mafia and you are town. If I flip town it's GG.
If I do flip scum who else would you all lynch? I want to hear sloosh's and ghost's scumlist, because after me and DYH they have not listed anybody that they think are the most suspicious. So post it you two

Also if you are a lurking townie please realize that a wrong vote will lose the game and that we NEED your vote. If you vote on someone other than the mafia (sloosh, phagga, ghost, test) they will change their votes and town loses. We must lynch sloosh.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
March 08 2012 21:13 GMT
#1093
Sorry guys, I was running out of time at the end and I frankly lost my passion after defending myself the whole game.I was too lazy to articulate my reasons for lynching sloosh and let DYH do it, sorry bro. My apologies to phagga and the town for super tunnel vision -.-

Scum played well, didn't really expect jekyll at all and I thought NF was just noob town TT
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