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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
Tyrran's post suggested he would be active and playing, hence the unvote. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote: RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much. Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided. I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy... This type of language makes you look scummy. If you don't know what to think about an action, why are you bringing it up? Providing no opinion is essentially summarizing, which is an easy way to contribute without contributing. If you think someone is scummy call it scummy. Calling things weird doesn't say anything one way or another. On February 21 2012 11:14 redFF wrote: kita: votes tyrran in his first post of the game. Attacks me for pushing a policy lynch(which he is on) when i called them bad 4 months ago. thinks he's caught me in a mafia meta contradiction when really my policy regarding policy lynches has just changed. He was also grilling me for a few posts before stopping and going back to pointless fluff, while placing a vote on me without announcing it in thread. so erm ##vote kita Without announcing it in the thread? lol you act as if I'm voting you without ever mentioning you. Who cares if I post it in the thread. Yes, I voted tyrran in the first post of the game. I do that in most games. Do you believe that's scummy? Yes, I attacked you for your discrepancy in opinion, does that make me scummy? Have any of the reasons in your omgus vote pointed to me being scummy? You pushed a policy lynch and immediately backed off an hour into the game after getting in trouble. You didn't even mention that you still wanted to lynch tyrran. Instead it took my questioning for you to even bring it up. If tyrran was your preferred lynch, why did you switch to me hours later? You said you dropped tyrran because you didn't think you could get him lynched. Does that mean you're more confident that you can push my lynch? Or is it that you are simply attacking your attacker? You discredited the ability to scum hunt on day one, push a policy lynch because of a mafia epiphany, drop the policy lynch because you were simply generating discussion, go back to supporting the policy lynch after being questioned, and then swap to the guy who is questioning the policy lynch. Nap time. As much as I enjoy talking about red, I'll try to look at everyone else when I wake up. | ||
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Erandorr
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
And Tyrran? I'm fine with with the content of your few posts, but you aren't off to a good start activity wise. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
Now since then he's got worse, one thing he said especially leaps out at me Oh and btw I agree with wbg on the matter that I can't read redFF properly. There's also a bunch of other players I don't think I'm capable to read that good. I read this as "here's my excuse for why I won't be giving many reads this game"It's one of the scummies things said so far and something I'm fine with wagoning. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 22 2012 00:25 kitaman27 wrote: For transparency's sake, please do so in the future.Without announcing it in the thread? lol you act as if I'm voting you without ever mentioning you. Who cares if I post it in the thread. Yes, I voted tyrran in the first post of the game. I do that in most games. Do you believe that's scummy? No, I never said it did.Yes, I attacked you for your discrepancy in opinion, does that make me scummy? It would be a discrepancy in opinion If I had said it 2 days ago, but I said it 4 months ago, it's a misrep. WHAT CHANGED IN 4 MONTHS? A lot, actually...Have any of the reasons in your omgus vote pointed to me being scummy? Calling it an omgus is purposely framing it in a scummy light to make me look bad, noted.You pushed a policy lynch and immediately backed off an hour into the game after getting in trouble. You didn't even mention that you still wanted to lynch tyrran. my vote was still on him. Instead it took my questioning for you to even bring it up. My vote was still on him. If tyrran was your preferred lynch, why did you switch to me hours later? You said you dropped tyrran because you didn't think you could get him lynched. Just answered your own question, also his post gave me hope that he would be active. Does that mean you're more confident that you can push my lynch? Or is it that you are simply attacking your attacker? Lol if I was going to attack my attacker wouldn't I have voted VE or drh? Not some "me too!" shitty wagoner.You discredited the ability to scum hunt on day one, I didn't discredit it its the truth, day 1 is the hardest day to get a scum lynch.push a policy lynch because of a mafia epiphany, drop the policy lynch because you were simply generating discussion, go back to supporting the policy lynch after being questioned, false, my vote didn't leave until after your questioning of me. and then swap to the guy who is questioning the policy lynch. Is this you framing yourself as the great attacker of the policy lynch? No that would be VE and drh, you just tagged along.Nap time. As much as I enjoy talking about red, I'll try to look at everyone else when I wake up. ENJOY | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:06 Jackal58 wrote: Red - What did you see in Toad's filter that made you agree with me? Do you still think toad is scum? If yes, why ? | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:10 redFF wrote: verbosity, managing to write two long posts without any scumhunting. Now since then he's got worse, one thing he said especially leaps out at me I read this as "here's my excuse for why I won't be giving many reads this game" It's one of the scummies things said so far and something I'm fine with wagoning. Ooooor it's a player who sucked last game and shot 3 townies in a row as a town-vig himself and therefore changed his point of view on a couple of things, trying to start things a little slower than last game. But yeah, I also read that part you quoted before clicking "Post" and wondered if I should just delete it because people might misunderstand it. Ended up posting it nevertheless because I thought an honest opinion on that part is not going to hurt someone. It's not an excuse for not posting reads. If you want to interpret it that way please take it the way I posted it. I'm not going to post reads about those 2 the first couple of days. Yeah I know, I never mentioned "the first couple of days" but I figured it's obvious. Quick question: Do you think I am capable to figure BC or syllo out the first 1 or 2 days? Might as well ask if you think that other guys who are quite new themselves are capable of figureing them out in your opinion. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:19 Tyrran wrote: Do you still think toad is scum? If yes, why ? Never did. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:35 syllogism wrote: Actually you should be able to figure me out (see my Responsibility and Personality mafia filters) and it certainly would help if you gave your opinion. The things I posted about BC are straight forward and suggest a mindset that isn't focused on figuring things out. It's obviously not conclusive, but right now he seems like the best lynch. I haven't read those games but thanks I'll take a look at those. That's the reason I posted what redFF quoted. If you got a nice example game of BC being mafia that'd be nice as well I only saw him play in L and that 80-ish player thing were he obviously had to change his style a little bit to get to the new guys as well. Well I've got my thoughts about you two but I don't know what to make of them yet so I thought waiting a little longer to post something that actually might be useful is better than just posting a oneliner every now and then saying "well that looks odd". But yeah I kind of agree with you, I had the feeling he's dodging a little bit when VE asked him earlier on. VE was clearly overdoing it early on and I don't think mafia-BC would have troubles thinking of something to say so although I agree with you that it looks weird I don't think it's scummy yet. My thought was that he doesn't want to encourage people tunneling so early on. And as mentioned I'm not feeling comfortable judging you two yet so I'd rather not lynch one of you two guys. I'd also rather not lynch into vets d1 but considering how stacked this game is it's probably a dangerous thing to say that for someone like me :p | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:49 Toadesstern wrote: I haven't read those games but thanks I'll take a look at those. That's the reason I posted what redFF quoted. If you got a nice example game of BC being mafia that'd be nice as well I only saw him play in L and that 80-ish player thing were he obviously had to change his style a little bit to get to the new guys as well. Well I've got my thoughts about you two but I don't know what to make of them yet so I thought waiting a little longer to post something that actually might be useful is better than just posting a oneliner every now and then saying "well that looks odd". But yeah I kind of agree with you, I had the feeling he's dodging a little bit when VE asked him earlier on. VE was clearly overdoing it early on and I don't think mafia-BC would have troubles thinking of something to say so although I agree with you that it looks weird I don't think it's scummy yet. My thought was that he doesn't want to encourage people tunneling so early on. And as mentioned I'm not feeling comfortable judging you two yet so I'd rather not lynch one of you two guys. I'd also rather not lynch into vets d1 but considering how stacked this game is it's probably a dangerous thing to say that for someone like me :p So you have you're thoughts on them, but you aren't comfortable judging them? What happened to the Arkham Toad, where you we're going accusation crazy, IIRC. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
Toad. Why so passive. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
You wily old fox you. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 22 2012 02:00 Jitsu wrote: So you have you're thoughts on them, but you aren't comfortable judging them? What happened to the Arkham Toad, where you we're going accusation crazy, IIRC. That happened to Arkham Toad: Ooooor it's a player who sucked last game and shot 3 townies in a row as a town-vig himself and therefore changed his point of view on a couple of things, trying to start things a little slower than last game.  | ||
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