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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
February 24 2012 20:35 GMT
#1081
That would be 6 votes.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 24 2012 20:38 GMT
#1082
It baffles me that of all people, it took gumshoe to be the one to think rationally about how we need to approach tonight...
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 24 2012 20:41 GMT
#1083
Matt if you are really town please back me up, ech sloosh, I would like to have you guys around when the pressure isnt so high so that you can properly defend yourselves, even if you are scum you deserve that at least, please help me out here, hawk is our best choice purely because if he's town theres nothing we can do to win this game anyways and if hes scum theres no guarantee hell just die.

Furthermore I do not want to rely on some bullshit host buff, we maybe noobs but we can win this game fairly or we can lose fairly.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 24 2012 20:43 GMT
#1084
On February 25 2012 05:38 Alderan wrote:
It baffles me that of all people, it took gumshoe to be the one to think rationally about how we need to approach tonight...


You and me both buddy.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 24 2012 20:46 GMT
#1085
On February 25 2012 05:35 EchelonTee wrote:
gumshoe, rG, and trackd00r, I believe you all to be town. please vote mattchew.


Ech the game can end right now just because townies decided that the most delicious thing in the world was each others throats, please vote for the guy we know is scum, if hawk is not scum than we've already lost and why would we still be in this game if we've already lost?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#1086
How can you guys even consider a possibility that both ET and I are scum? Mafia need one mislynch to seal the deal.

Think about it:
We were the ones originally strongly opposed to the TKHawkins and trackd00r lynch.
If we were both scum and one of them town, it would have been done deal to lynch them as there support from Mattchew, Steveling, Alderan, gumshoe and zelblade.

If we were all scum, then it could be seen trying to save our buddies.
But then you have to be ready to accept that out of all the cases we could have pushed, we pushed Mattchew.

On February 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team


There is absolutely no reason why scum team requiring one last mislynch would choose one of the least suspected people.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 24 2012 20:50 GMT
#1087
On February 25 2012 05:41 gumshoe wrote:
Matt if you are really town please back me up, ech sloosh, I would like to have you guys around when the pressure isnt so high so that you can properly defend yourselves, even if you are scum you deserve that at least, please help me out here, hawk is our best choice purely because if he's town theres nothing we can do to win this game anyways and if hes scum theres no guarantee hell just die.

Furthermore I do not want to rely on some bullshit host buff, we maybe noobs but we can win this game fairly or we can lose fairly.


We won't be around because as soon as we mislynch tonight game over Scum win.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 24 2012 20:53 GMT
#1088
On February 25 2012 05:50 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 05:41 gumshoe wrote:
Matt if you are really town please back me up, ech sloosh, I would like to have you guys around when the pressure isnt so high so that you can properly defend yourselves, even if you are scum you deserve that at least, please help me out here, hawk is our best choice purely because if he's town theres nothing we can do to win this game anyways and if hes scum theres no guarantee hell just die.

Furthermore I do not want to rely on some bullshit host buff, we maybe noobs but we can win this game fairly or we can lose fairly.


We won't be around because as soon as we mislynch tonight game over Scum win.



Or you could just vote TK....
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 24 2012 20:54 GMT
#1089
On February 25 2012 05:48 slOosh wrote:
How can you guys even consider a possibility that both ET and I are scum? Mafia need one mislynch to seal the deal.

Think about it:
We were the ones originally strongly opposed to the TKHawkins and trackd00r lynch.
If we were both scum and one of them town, it would have been done deal to lynch them as there support from Mattchew, Steveling, Alderan, gumshoe and zelblade.

If we were all scum, then it could be seen trying to save our buddies.
But then you have to be ready to accept that out of all the cases we could have pushed, we pushed Mattchew.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team


There is absolutely no reason why scum team requiring one last mislynch would choose one of the least suspected people.


Sloosh ignore them for a little while, talk to me, why is a bad idea to lynch the guy we know is scum? Why can we not vote for hawk and give ourselves sometime to work things out? If hes not scum than we cant have a majority, so WHY ARE WE STILL IN THIS GAME, thats because hawk is scum, and I don't want to risk him voting last second securing himself, oh and don't worry, I am not letting a mislynch happen today and even the worst case scenario where its a no lynch and hawk isnt modkilled is not as bad as the furious set of problems we currentley have. please vote hawk. We can survive provided we don't play right into the mafias hands and mislynch.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 24 2012 20:56 GMT
#1090
On February 25 2012 05:48 slOosh wrote:
How can you guys even consider a possibility that both ET and I are scum? Mafia need one mislynch to seal the deal.

Think about it:
We were the ones originally strongly opposed to the TKHawkins and trackd00r lynch.
If we were both scum and one of them town, it would have been done deal to lynch them as there support from Mattchew, Steveling, Alderan, gumshoe and zelblade.

If we were all scum, then it could be seen trying to save our buddies.
But then you have to be ready to accept that out of all the cases we could have pushed, we pushed Mattchew.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team


There is absolutely no reason why scum team requiring one last mislynch would choose one of the least suspected people.



Very very relevant.....
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 24 2012 20:57 GMT
#1091
Gumshoe, maybe you missed what I thought about TKHawk. Here it is.

On February 23 2012 13:47 slOosh wrote:
@gumshoe:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 05:06 gumshoe wrote:
Tell me how Hawk wasn't the reason a townie died.

Tell me why he is actively trying to seem so hostile to the point that we will never listen to him.

Tell me how his tunnel on Janaan is useful.

Tell me how he's so sure that I am town.

But most of all please tell me a story about why this man is not mafia. So that I can tell you a story about why you are.


Read over your case, and I don't like it. You are going in with the assumption that he is mafia and interpreting everything according to that.

Hawk wasn't the reason that DimmuKlok was lynched. We all wanted to avoid a no-lynch. Sure he fumbled with the votes, but its a newbie game. He came from scII land and he genuinely might not know how to vote, seeing as its his first time.

Your perceived hostility of him is actually his response to Mattchew's antagonistic style. I know how mad I can get when people treat my posts condescendingly and calls them "retarded". Now, this is my second game playing, and I understand that there is an element of role playing. I can see him genuinely hurt from Matt's verbal assault - he doesn't have that tought exterior we develop playing mafia.

His FOS on Janaan was wrong, but that doesn't make him scum. The reasoning he provides for suspecting Janaan is understandable. He is clear. You might not like his logic but it isn't contradictory.


Furthermore, you shouldn't be listening to Alderan. Read over his filter and you can see him assume that TKHawk is 100% scum without offering any new evidence why except from one small post back in day 2. Notice the discrepancy between you and him.

You have clearly thought this out and posted your thinking and asked for responses.
He hasn't helped anyone reach a conclusion with reasoning, but instead just focuses on getting votes for TK.
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
February 24 2012 20:58 GMT
#1092
On February 25 2012 05:48 slOosh wrote:
How can you guys even consider a possibility that both ET and I are scum? Mafia need one mislynch to seal the deal.

Think about it:
We were the ones originally strongly opposed to the TKHawkins and trackd00r lynch.
If we were both scum and one of them town, it would have been done deal to lynch them as there support from Mattchew, Steveling, Alderan, gumshoe and zelblade.

If we were all scum, then it could be seen trying to save our buddies.
But then you have to be ready to accept that out of all the cases we could have pushed, we pushed Mattchew.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team


There is absolutely no reason why scum team requiring one last mislynch would choose one of the least suspected people.


That's exactly I've been thinking this whole time. I didn't want to highlight this claim before, since I was afraid that some players could shut down my in a flash. Thank you for pointing it out.

That's why I don't really want to vote for ET.

##vote: Mattchew
''They put signs, but I can't read''
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 24 2012 20:59 GMT
#1093
On February 25 2012 05:50 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 05:41 gumshoe wrote:
Matt if you are really town please back me up, ech sloosh, I would like to have you guys around when the pressure isnt so high so that you can properly defend yourselves, even if you are scum you deserve that at least, please help me out here, hawk is our best choice purely because if he's town theres nothing we can do to win this game anyways and if hes scum theres no guarantee hell just die.

Furthermore I do not want to rely on some bullshit host buff, we maybe noobs but we can win this game fairly or we can lose fairly.


We won't be around because as soon as we mislynch tonight game over Scum win.


Sigh, no sloosh, your wrong if we vote tk who we know is scum we can survive,

after tonight well be 5 3 for town if we lynch hawk and hes scum(which he is). If we no lynch well be 5, 4 or 5 3 hopefully if hawk is scum and gets modkilled, once again I must say if hes town it dosent matter because weve already lost, and once again I must say that hawk is scum because as you said the host is not going to let us squirm if we have no chance of winning. As long as we dont lynch anyone who isnt hawk, there is no risk of losing this game until tomorrow.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 24 2012 21:00 GMT
#1094
I may have a replacement for TH, assuming Qatol or DF get back in time to approve me replacing him in.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 24 2012 21:01 GMT
#1095
On February 25 2012 05:58 trackd00r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 05:48 slOosh wrote:
How can you guys even consider a possibility that both ET and I are scum? Mafia need one mislynch to seal the deal.

Think about it:
We were the ones originally strongly opposed to the TKHawkins and trackd00r lynch.
If we were both scum and one of them town, it would have been done deal to lynch them as there support from Mattchew, Steveling, Alderan, gumshoe and zelblade.

If we were all scum, then it could be seen trying to save our buddies.
But then you have to be ready to accept that out of all the cases we could have pushed, we pushed Mattchew.

On February 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team


There is absolutely no reason why scum team requiring one last mislynch would choose one of the least suspected people.


That's exactly I've been thinking this whole time. I didn't want to highlight this claim before, since I was afraid that some players could shut down my in a flash. Thank you for pointing it out.

That's why I don't really want to vote for ET.

##vote: Mattchew


Goddamit trak, this can wait till tommorow, WE COULD BE IN LYLO RIGHT NOW. Please please please read everything I've said about hawk being the best bet in the world right now, we can work this out in the next 72 hours after hawk flips red.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 21:01 GMT
#1096
Gum if he is lynched and flips town we lose.. if he is lynched and flips scum we are literally in the same position as today... The only way we can improve our position is by lynching another scum and hoping tk gets mod killed as scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 24 2012 21:01 GMT
#1097
On February 25 2012 05:57 slOosh wrote:
Gumshoe, maybe you missed what I thought about TKHawk. Here it is.

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 13:47 slOosh wrote:
@gumshoe:
On February 22 2012 05:06 gumshoe wrote:
Tell me how Hawk wasn't the reason a townie died.

Tell me why he is actively trying to seem so hostile to the point that we will never listen to him.

Tell me how his tunnel on Janaan is useful.

Tell me how he's so sure that I am town.

But most of all please tell me a story about why this man is not mafia. So that I can tell you a story about why you are.


Read over your case, and I don't like it. You are going in with the assumption that he is mafia and interpreting everything according to that.

Hawk wasn't the reason that DimmuKlok was lynched. We all wanted to avoid a no-lynch. Sure he fumbled with the votes, but its a newbie game. He came from scII land and he genuinely might not know how to vote, seeing as its his first time.

Your perceived hostility of him is actually his response to Mattchew's antagonistic style. I know how mad I can get when people treat my posts condescendingly and calls them "retarded". Now, this is my second game playing, and I understand that there is an element of role playing. I can see him genuinely hurt from Matt's verbal assault - he doesn't have that tought exterior we develop playing mafia.

His FOS on Janaan was wrong, but that doesn't make him scum. The reasoning he provides for suspecting Janaan is understandable. He is clear. You might not like his logic but it isn't contradictory.


Furthermore, you shouldn't be listening to Alderan. Read over his filter and you can see him assume that TKHawk is 100% scum without offering any new evidence why except from one small post back in day 2. Notice the discrepancy between you and him.

You have clearly thought this out and posted your thinking and asked for responses.
He hasn't helped anyone reach a conclusion with reasoning, but instead just focuses on getting votes for TK.



I don't need to post a dissertation on TK to know he has scum. He basically came out and said it when he "quit" the game.

And then there's the only blatant scumslip I've seen in the entire game:

On February 19 2012 09:01 TKHawkins wrote:
*Panting*... ok, god.

Going to go eat.


Someone's already said why this is relevant, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 24 2012 21:03 GMT
#1098
On February 25 2012 05:59 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 05:50 slOosh wrote:
On February 25 2012 05:41 gumshoe wrote:
Matt if you are really town please back me up, ech sloosh, I would like to have you guys around when the pressure isnt so high so that you can properly defend yourselves, even if you are scum you deserve that at least, please help me out here, hawk is our best choice purely because if he's town theres nothing we can do to win this game anyways and if hes scum theres no guarantee hell just die.

Furthermore I do not want to rely on some bullshit host buff, we maybe noobs but we can win this game fairly or we can lose fairly.


We won't be around because as soon as we mislynch tonight game over Scum win.


Sigh, no sloosh, your wrong if we vote tk who we know is scum we can survive,

after tonight well be 5 3 for town if we lynch hawk and hes scum(which he is). If we no lynch well be 5, 4 or 5 3 hopefully if hawk is scum and gets modkilled, once again I must say if hes town it dosent matter because weve already lost, and once again I must say that hawk is scum because as you said the host is not going to let us squirm if we have no chance of winning. As long as we dont lynch anyone who isnt hawk, there is no risk of losing this game until tomorrow.

You are assuming that since the game is not over, it is not possible for town to get a vote off so therefore he must be mafia.

But the hosts don't know if he will post before the deadline or not, and therefore cannot end the game. If he is modkilled, he will be replaced with someone else, and we will go into day 4 with 5 town and 4 scum. That is why the game hasn't ended, not because he is scum.

On February 14 2012 00:37 GMarshal wrote:
Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made in the game until Night 3. If a player is modkilled during the designated time, then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
February 24 2012 21:07 GMT
#1099
On February 25 2012 06:01 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 05:57 slOosh wrote:
Gumshoe, maybe you missed what I thought about TKHawk. Here it is.

On February 23 2012 13:47 slOosh wrote:
@gumshoe:
On February 22 2012 05:06 gumshoe wrote:
Tell me how Hawk wasn't the reason a townie died.

Tell me why he is actively trying to seem so hostile to the point that we will never listen to him.

Tell me how his tunnel on Janaan is useful.

Tell me how he's so sure that I am town.

But most of all please tell me a story about why this man is not mafia. So that I can tell you a story about why you are.


Read over your case, and I don't like it. You are going in with the assumption that he is mafia and interpreting everything according to that.

Hawk wasn't the reason that DimmuKlok was lynched. We all wanted to avoid a no-lynch. Sure he fumbled with the votes, but its a newbie game. He came from scII land and he genuinely might not know how to vote, seeing as its his first time.

Your perceived hostility of him is actually his response to Mattchew's antagonistic style. I know how mad I can get when people treat my posts condescendingly and calls them "retarded". Now, this is my second game playing, and I understand that there is an element of role playing. I can see him genuinely hurt from Matt's verbal assault - he doesn't have that tought exterior we develop playing mafia.

His FOS on Janaan was wrong, but that doesn't make him scum. The reasoning he provides for suspecting Janaan is understandable. He is clear. You might not like his logic but it isn't contradictory.


Furthermore, you shouldn't be listening to Alderan. Read over his filter and you can see him assume that TKHawk is 100% scum without offering any new evidence why except from one small post back in day 2. Notice the discrepancy between you and him.

You have clearly thought this out and posted your thinking and asked for responses.
He hasn't helped anyone reach a conclusion with reasoning, but instead just focuses on getting votes for TK.



I don't need to post a dissertation on TK to know he has scum. He basically came out and said it when he "quit" the game.

And then there's the only blatant scumslip I've seen in the entire game:

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 09:01 TKHawkins wrote:
*Panting*... ok, god.

Going to go eat.


Someone's already said why this is relevant, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.



Show me where he quit and why he is mafia because of it.
I've already posted my reasoning (Here, not that you read my posts anyways). Now show me yours.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 24 2012 21:07 GMT
#1100
On February 25 2012 06:03 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 00:37 GMarshal wrote:
Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made in the game until Night 3. If a player is modkilled during the designated time, then they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list.


This assumes I find someone to fill the slot, if no one is found, then he is straight up modkilled.
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