Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII - Page 24

On February 19 2012 10:43 gumshoe wrote:



Theres an hour in between my posts, it was 8ish when I rushed my vote, I didn't vote to establish a majority I voted for the person I found suspicious, I left to go eat. Also I've been awake all day pretty much, I just haven't posted. I voted at 8ish left to go eat dinner with my family, came back and read the results. Also are you actually mad at me for not voting for a townie? Or do you think I wanted to look as if I was right about not voting for the townie ?

On February 19 2012 10:46 zelblade wrote:


Simply wanted to clarify for why you were missing during the lynch. I dont think that you wanted to look as if you were right about not voting a townie, but am simply curious as to why you were gone and just wanted to pressure you to see your reaction.

On February 19 2012 07:34 Alderan wrote:



Can someone please explain this sentiment? Am I missing something?

To my case he responded:

"I'm new, I'm new, I don't understand your case, I'm new."

His play after my case:

"I'm still on my gumshoe wagon, I don't know what to think about Midnight, I don't know what I think about Hawkin and Manner, and I'm too tired to give an opinion on Steveling"


If someone can please point me to the direction of pro town play I would greatly appreciate it.

On February 19 2012 06:27 Janaan wrote:
At this point, it's looking like the lynch will be either Echelon or a no-lynch. I am still undecided as to which I prefer. On the one hand, I'm not really getting a scum read from Echelon, just a aggressive townie. On the other, we need information. I am usually in favor of lynching, since it provides information that is unavailable any other way. If there's a no lynch, the voting record is almost entirely useless for the day. For now, I'll vote. I just hope that it's not a huge mistake.

##Unvote: DimmuKlok
##Vote: EchelonTee

On February 19 2012 07:08 Janaan wrote:


Yeah, I think after thinking about it for a bit longer, I really don't get scummy feelings from you at all, and I haven't since the game began. As SlOosh reminded me, lynching people you don't think mafia is not a good idea. Now I just need to decide who to actually vote for...


##Unvote: EchelonTee

On February 19 2012 08:18 Janaan wrote:
It seems that I'm the only one not voting atm. It really looks like unless something very drastic happens, we're gonna end up with a no-lynch. Of the cases presented, probably the one that made me think most was SlOosh's case against DoYouHas, but I'm still not ready to vote for him.

As for the case against MidnightGladius, I understand where Echelon is coming from, but I have slightly different opinions on Midnight.

I think I have to stick with my original read at this time, as much as I don't really want a no-lynch Day 1.

##Vote: DimmuKlok

On February 19 2012 11:25 Alderan wrote:
Damn.
I stand by my play though, I think the reads were pretty clearly scum.

Reminder: When you are being accused, STAY ACTIVE, the more you give us the more we can find out about you. If you are town and you stay active generally this will be identified.


I think everyone needs to focus on the hour running up to the vote. There was a lot of action and activity that probably didn't get %100 attention. I'm to check out the voting records, specifically the correlation between who came off of MG and ET and on what basis.

On February 19 2012 11:27 TKHawkins wrote:
Alright, having reread some stuff after the flip,

Alderan was the first to put up a case for DDimmuKlok and stuck on him.

And he is another player posting his inability to read Midnight and some weak calls.




Janaan was willing to switch to Ech from Dimmu to try to guarantee a lynch even though he said he didn't think Ech was scum.


But then he switches back to Dimmu and gets the bandwagon going on Dimmu started again. The reason he voted for Ech was because he didn't want a nolynch day one. Then he changes his mind and votes for a target he thinks will cause a nolynch.




He's willing to vote for somebody he doesn't think is town to guarantee a lynch, but then vote for somebody he thinks is scum to force a nolynch because it was his original read. Not only that, the reason he gave for changing his vote "I don't get a scummy feeling from you at all" is bogus. Janaan didn't have scummy feelings from Ech when voted for him. He already balanced the we need info vs. I don't want to lynch people I think are town in his head.

FOS Janaan

On February 19 2012 10:07 MidnightGladius wrote:
You're missing the point again. That argument (should've pushed harder if truly convicted) is weak coming from either of us, as neither of us actually did it. It's the pot calling the kettle black

On February 19 2012 08:13 MidnightGladius wrote:
EchelonTee:

1. My first post in NMM3 responded to other posts because other people had posted. In this game, I was the second poster, concurrent with DYH. Your allegation is baseless.

2. Our posting styles are different. You dislike mine, and I dislike yours. Fine. What specifically have I not contributed to? What topics have I failed to address? What questions have I failed to answer?

3. I was referring to FP's terrible use of statistics (saying that 30% chance on a random lynch was good), not the fact that he was green. Anyone trying to use bad reasoning is anti-town in my eyes.

4. jaj22 has no valid case on me. If he did, he would be presenting one. I don't see it. Do you? Don't push him into taking shots at me that he clearly isn't willing to take.

5. gumshoe and I had been the only ones going back and forth for quite some time. He asked me some questions, I answered them, and suggested that we both back off for a bit to cool down and sleep on our thoughts. I happen to think that my reasoning is good, and you still haven't convinced me otherwise. If you think that I'm completely and utterly scummy, then you really need to take a step back and fully re-evaluate the claims that you're making and the evidence from which you're making them.

On February 19 2012 12:29 EchelonTee wrote:


I know, that's why I said it was weird.



1. You could have said more, still. Perhaps you hadn't seen DYH's post yet, but still, considering how meaty your post was the other game, this one looks strange in comparison. In your previous game, there were only really 2-3 substantive posts to yours, so the difference is not solely because of that.

2. I don't dislike your play; I respect your play tbh. I just think you're being scummy this game. Our posting styles are not substantially different. We post fairly long at times, shorter when having direct conversation. What I don't like is that you are honing in on people that I, and others, have noted to be noobier players who are not inherently scummy. There have been a lot of other people posting in the thread that you could easily be suspicious of, but you pick the reads that take the least work. You haven't generated NEW content, which is why I say you are not contributing. I really don't like that you're trying to define this as myself simply disliking your posting style. You're avoiding the fact that you haven't really been contributing.

3. People trying to use bad reasoning is anti town, yes. However, you used this as justification to vote gumshoe. The fact that FakePromise was green is damning for you; I know that you didn't use the fact that FP was green, I am the one who is using that. If you know that nooby and anti-town=/=scum, you shouldn't have voted gumshoe. I don't see how you can deny this. The facts are laid out. This is not at all a loose point, as you claim my case is.

4. If jaj does not want to pursue you then w.e. His original case, I liked.

5. your back and forth only lasted for about 1-2 pages, 2-3 posts each. You really didn't go on and on about it that much, and haven't presented much reasoning other than "acting obviously anti-town". This is a newbie game, you realize. I don't expect all townies to be pro-town.


Can other people look at my #2 and #3 and honestly say that my case is baseless?


@gumshoe, I'd advise you slow down your posting and try to be more coherent; activity is good, but you're starting to fill up the thread unnecessarily with a LOT of randomness. Analytical posts by other people have been buried. Just post when you've consolidated your thoughts.