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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#77
got you there don't I
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 19 2012 21:21 GMT
#79
On February 20 2012 06:19 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 06:06 Dirkzor wrote:
Lets say the day 2 team complete the mission. Why would i change that team for day 3 - even if i was not included in the day 2 team?


This is correct, I believe. If a team is successful with 0 spies sabotaging it, that team goes again.


Yeah, but Dirkzor's point is "I think that if such a team fails it's the fault of the guy who picked it, we should be suspicious of him" and I'm not sure that's the case. Obviously we should be suspicious but like if something's a reasonable choice anyone would make (as in that particular instance) then dirk is wrong
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 19 2012 21:30 GMT
#81
On February 20 2012 06:26 chaos13 wrote:
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On February 20 2012 06:21 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2012 06:19 chaos13 wrote:
On February 20 2012 06:06 Dirkzor wrote:
Lets say the day 2 team complete the mission. Why would i change that team for day 3 - even if i was not included in the day 2 team?


This is correct, I believe. If a team is successful with 0 spies sabotaging it, that team goes again.


Yeah, but Dirkzor's point is "I think that if such a team fails it's the fault of the guy who picked it, we should be suspicious of him" and I'm not sure that's the case. Obviously we should be suspicious but like if something's a reasonable choice anyone would make (as in that particular instance) then dirk is wrong


If a Leader's team is sabotaged, they and everyone who voted "Yay" should immediately be placed under scrutiny. That's simply common sense. Should they be eliminated from future teams? No. I think you're exaggerating the point Dirk has made to black and white, when of course there will be grey areas.


Really? You think that someone who revotes in a 4-man team that was successful D2 that then failed D3 should be "immedately placed under scrutiny"? I think it's honestly an more anti-town move to vote Nay on a team we know has been successful, even if that team goes on to fail, unless you have some seriously good reasoning for it.

If on D3 we had a D2 success, I would be very VERY suspicious of anyone who was nayvoting a re-suggestion of the D2 team, and they better have some incredibly good reasoning.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#84
I'm saying the scenario you describe is unreasonable. If someone suggests a team for D3 and it is the same as the successful team for D2, and it fails, do you really think that that person deserves extra scrutiny (over, say, the members of the team that failed, or people who voted yay, or some hypothetical person that voted nay)? I'd believe that a D3 team that's the same as a D2 team would succeed, and anyone who votes against it better have a great reason or clearly there's something afoot. I think the situation you described initially basically is pretty unlikely to happen, and if it did happen, the correct response is not the one you delineated.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 19 2012 22:12 GMT
#88
On February 20 2012 07:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
I see Blaze is town from how spammy he is - sounding exactly as he did in Resistance 1. And unless Palmar's scum play has improved dramatically, he's pretty much confirmed town now to me too.

Palmar's right, this should be E-Z-P-Z.

chaos13 is looking pretty bad imo. Am I seeing things? Examples to follow.


Chaos13 has been worthless imo. Pending further information I will Nay any vote with him on it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 20 2012 00:26 GMT
#94
I like Dirkzor actually. I think he articulated his point and defended it adequately. I would approve of a team that included Dirkzor.

C13's defense leaves much to be desired. I maintain my current nay vote on any team including him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 20 2012 01:49 GMT
#98
Oh yes you're right we're a 4 player scumteam you have figured us out so well
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 20 2012 01:52 GMT
#100
Oh Chaos thanks for clarifying I thought there were 4 scum, what would I do without you
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#133
I'd really rather Navillus post a group rather than just letting this time out-- I want to see what he thinks is a good group for the D1 mission. Part of the way you gather info this game is by seeing who suggests who for their teams, and who votes yay and nay on it. Although the days are pretty long in this game, I'd rather not that Navillus waste more of our time. Post the team you want, and we'll vote on it. As it stands, Navillus has done nothing to indicate that he's town, and I am liking my "Nay" vote more and more.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:14 GMT
#136
I really don't like that Navillus hasn't done anything useful and didn't commit to a team. Like, way to not suggest a team dude, are you trying to dodge scrutiny or what

I'm not a fan of the "assume Palmar is town because he isn't playing like dick" given that he fooled me all Resistance I-- Palmar is perfectly capable of playing a fine scum, at least in this setup. I'm going to wait and see what kind of team he suggests before committing to a vote.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:20 GMT
#138
On February 21 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
I really don't like that Navillus hasn't done anything useful and didn't commit to a team. Like, way to not suggest a team dude, are you trying to dodge scrutiny or what

I'm not a fan of the "assume Palmar is town because he isn't playing like dick" given that he fooled me all Resistance I-- Palmar is perfectly capable of playing a fine scum, at least in this setup. I'm going to wait and see what kind of team he suggests before committing to a vote.


"Palmar not playing like a dick" doesn't really factor into it, at least not for me. But, like you, I'm reserving judgement until he officially suggests his team. It's easy to say "I'm thinking A, B and C for a team" and actually put forth X, Y and Z, ya know?


Exactly. And that's why I don't like Navillus, who just dodged super hard. I will nay-vote any team with him on it.

Regarding Palmar: I meant to say "playing poorly" rather than "playing in a mean-spirited fashion"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:21 GMT
#140
On February 21 2012 09:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
I really don't like that Navillus hasn't done anything useful and didn't commit to a team. Like, way to not suggest a team dude, are you trying to dodge scrutiny or what

I'm not a fan of the "assume Palmar is town because he isn't playing like dick" given that he fooled me all Resistance I-- Palmar is perfectly capable of playing a fine scum, at least in this setup. I'm going to wait and see what kind of team he suggests before committing to a vote.


"Palmar not playing like a dick" doesn't really factor into it, at least not for me. But, like you, I'm reserving judgement until he officially suggests his team. It's easy to say "I'm thinking A, B and C for a team" and actually put forth X, Y and Z, ya know?


Exactly. And that's why I don't like Navillus, who just dodged super hard. I will nay-vote any team with him on it.

Regarding Palmar: I meant to say "playing poorly" rather than "playing in a mean-spirited fashion"


But yeah as I said I'm gonna wait and see what his team is
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:21 GMT
#141
On February 21 2012 09:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
I really don't like that Navillus hasn't done anything useful and didn't commit to a team. Like, way to not suggest a team dude, are you trying to dodge scrutiny or what

I'm not a fan of the "assume Palmar is town because he isn't playing like dick" given that he fooled me all Resistance I-- Palmar is perfectly capable of playing a fine scum, at least in this setup. I'm going to wait and see what kind of team he suggests before committing to a vote.


Suggesting a scum team which we can actively downvote is better than not suggesting a team at all.


Exactly and this is why I don't like Navillus-- no comittment, no suggested team, a total dodge.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:25 GMT
#143
That just means it was a GOOD dodge, not that it wasn't a dodge.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:25 GMT
#144
Like what do you expect a dodge to look like? you covering for your scumbuddy?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 00:47 GMT
#149
On February 21 2012 09:31 Navillus wrote:
Ahh shoot this is from my phone because I haven't had access to a computer for a while and I thought the deadline was later than it was, honestly though my plan was me, Palmer, and dirkzor with an explanation that it was more with the intent of discussion than a really strong advocacy because I don't have strong enough reads for that. This will all seem dodgy but I wouldn't be telling you my dodgy sounding strat after missing it if I were scum. That would have been my strat because I am town and know that I'm not good enough to get a really strong town team by myself.


Worthless post, worthless team suggestion since it's not real-- saying it now is meaningless since we can't vote it in. you get no credit whatsoever for this post.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 09:54 GMT
#153
Sorry, can't deal with a Navillus team. He stopped by the thread a couple of times to ask questions and generally fail. The fact that he showed up after the deadline to offer a "team" and then immediately dipped up out is even more disconcerting, IMO. I really think you could have done better than Navillus. Much better.

I like Dirk. I'm not actually super pleased with you on the team either, especially if you think Navillus is somehow one of the three townest players in this game.

There are much better people you could have picked as man #3 for the team, like Kita or myself.

That being said, thank you for suggesting a team.

##Vote Palmar: Nay
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 09:57 GMT
#156
On February 21 2012 18:56 Palmar wrote:
yeah obviously you can't, it's directly against your win condition.


why can't you suggest a decent team
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 09:59 GMT
#159
I think in your position I'd want to bring the two most town players with me, and Navillus is not one of the two most town players. you setting up a fall guy for when your team fails? Or are you just dumb
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
February 21 2012 10:00 GMT
#160
On February 21 2012 18:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 18:56 Dirkzor wrote:
Lol palmar. I was actaully thinking the same about navillus. Also because he would be easy to "kill" for mafia to just attack him relentlessly due to the fact that he did not put up a team.

I like the Dirkzor/Navillus part. I'm not sure about you yet though.


Well I'm pretty confident in this. Just don't include me on any future teams if this fails.


That would be much easier if you had two very town players on your team rather than one very town player and one Navillus.
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