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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
Why? Well for many reasons. Im "easy" to pinpoint mistakes as i have a really "bad" meta (scummy meta as people call it but i like to think of it as do whatever the fuck you want meta) So through gut feeling and terrible accusation i believe phagga is likely scum Oh ya, i dont give a damn if you follow my bandwagon or not. This fool is already dead to me | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 16 2012 07:03 Kenpachi wrote: SO WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I don't need to think about that. I'm phagga. AND WHO DO YOU THINK I AM? You're the guy who is not contributing at all. Lurking in plain sight, so to say. You don't accuse me of being scum. you just dont. Im Kenpachi. you dont do that Could you please point me to the line in the rules that say so? because I just have a hard time finding it. But you know, me being a newbie and all... I'm sure you can help me out, right? | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On February 15 2012 18:55 Kenpachi wrote: l0l its ironic how i never followed my own words I was too tired though so i went to sleep for the day and started my hw. Man, IRC setups are LAME. Just getitng lines of text you never want to read. WTF? you're a semi vet i dont even know why you are fake pressuring a lurker. i thought youd learn by now that ITS NOT EVEN PRESSURE. But honestly, you're never bold in your actions so i cant say much about this except that its fucking terrible Oh ya, PM me if you want to talk to me on skype or IRC or TL. I will ignore all PMs that are straight up spam like this one. I will answer in public: no I don't think Kenpachi is scum either. Oh and Lanaia, very disappointed. I pointed out the same thing to Sentinel yesterday. You should know there is no point in "pressure" voting someone. You vote them and let them respond. You totally undermine your case here. I haven't seen anything scummy from Kenpachi aside from lurking but he what he has said seem "enthusiastic". Plus he noted your weak pressure vote. From what little reading I have done, Kenpachi either trolls or lurks most games, so this is not unusual. So no, Kenpachi is looking more town than scum right now. Finally it looks like the zeurg man and Hufy are geniunely afk and will probably be mod-killed. Putting together my reads now. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
Now then, about your analysis. it was weak shit. I think i can tell you why its a scummy piece of garbage Firstly to back up your point, you had quoted quotes that were not meant to be analyzed. On February 13 2012 13:33 Kenpachi wrote: its not much to learn. /join #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT thats all you need WHY would you even quote this to say im useless? thats desperation. You find me contradict myself. I explained myself, im fucking tired. I wanted people to stop predominantly using IRC. lots of info gets lost down the drain in private messaging (Nisani made it public but WHO WANTS TO READ THE ENTIRE THING?) But i really didnt have much to say. Im not going to say random things i dont want to say. Im never obliged to contribute when i make a post. I want to SAY something COMPRENDO MY NEWBIE FRIEND? Lastly, your IRC example was a fucking joke. Its also another sign of desperation. Derpladee who i think is prplhz was asking a non relevant question to my life, his life or anyone else's life. It was just a small chat that i ended quickly cause i didnt feel compelled to answer in great detail FOR THERE ISNT MUCH TO SAY ABOUT IT FUCKING STUPID IDIOT NOW I HATE YOU NOW THAT I CAREFULLY THOUGHT THROUGH YOUR SHIT POST LOL | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
im sorry but that analysis felt good. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On February 16 2012 07:32 Kenpachi wrote: wow im a massive douche bag. agree | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On February 16 2012 06:41 Mattchew wrote: Lanaia you got mderg to talk how about now you contribute something that isn't related to counting people who have voted or setup based... Like an actual vote on someone you think is scum... For the amount of time you've spent in irc and hovering the thread you have very little content that you can put your name to... Posting this on iPhone during 5 min class break Mhm.... I'll be switching to sinani. He doesn't appear to be reading the thread as much as I'd hope. Considering this post: On February 15 2012 09:13 sinani206 wrote: townie lists are bad i honestly dont care if you think im scummy because no one else does Time of post: 9:13, 15th of February. We had a conversation in the IRC. [13:27] <phagga> the person you mean mentioned him first on the 15th, 0913KST. At that point at least me and Mattchew had brought Sinani up as possible scum [13:28] <phagga> in the thread. did not bother to check IRC logs, but I'm sure several others also mentionend him in here earlier As I'm writing this post, I'm checking the IRC logs. As people kept confusing nisani for sinani, here is what I found: [18:38:51] <Mattchew> phagga how do you feel about lynching mutliple people [18:41:15] <Mattchew> and if you could choose 3 right now who would they be [18:44:50] *** Joins: Uprising (green_guit@S010600085451c144.pi.shawcable.net) [18:45:08] <Blazinghand> Mattchew what about you [18:45:35] <Mattchew> I would kill nisani prphz and sentinal This appears to have been on the 13th. You wouldn't want to kill someone you thought was town. However, I rescanned the thread, and I found this: On February 14 2012 06:26 Mattchew wrote: Sinani206 2 games ago http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=128360 ACTIVE Outcome = Veteran: sinani206 last game outcome = Sinani206, Issisus the Pustulent, a Chaos Plaguebearer has been cast into the warp! This game (its almost been 24 hours since this post I believe, and still nothing) outcome = ?? Now, I'm not saying it's the best case ever, but sinani was still called scum here, posted on the 14th. If sinani isn't scum, I'm not sorry voting for him. Kind of feels like he doesn't want to play. Upon reading his contributions to the IRC, I found myself unimpressed, but unsurprised that I was unimpressed. I know he can do better than this. As such, I see no reason not to lynch him. Kenpachi, you need to calm down. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On February 16 2012 07:28 Kenpachi wrote: If i were to describe myself (i hate doing this), id say that Im completely unreadable (i think only 1 person was able to pinpoint my scumplay and he probably forgot my scum meta anyways l0l) because of my rash decisions, massive spamming, hardcore lurking, not making sense, having odd vote patterns and downright annoying people. all the time, people advocate to shoot me cause i do these things (which i am against. shooting cause you hate me is dumb!) The reason why I wrote that post was to get you talking. And see, suddenly you're here. I did not cast a vote on you in case you didn't notice. Now then, about your analysis. it was weak shit. Might be. I AM a newbie, and I know I still have a lot to learn. The case was also an exercise for me. I think i can tell you why its a scummy piece of garbage Firstly to back up your point, you had quoted quotes that were not meant to be analyzed. WHY would you even quote this to say im useless? thats desperation. I wanted to make a point by including all posts since game start. I wanted to make it obvious how many posts there were and how you did not contribute anything in those posts. You find me contradict myself. I explained myself, im fucking tired. I wanted people to stop predominantly using IRC. lots of info gets lost down the drain in private messaging (Nisani made it public but WHO WANTS TO READ THE ENTIRE THING?) But i really didnt have much to say. Im not going to say random things i dont want to say. Im never obliged to contribute when i make a post. I want to SAY something COMPRENDO MY NEWBIE FRIEND? Lastly, your IRC example was a fucking joke. Its also another sign of desperation. Derpladee who i think is prplhz was asking a non relevant question to my life, his life or anyone else's life. It was just a small chat that i ended quickly cause i didnt feel compelled to answer in great detail FOR THERE ISNT MUCH TO SAY ABOUT IT you completely miss the point about the IRC example. I posted it to show that you did not contribute in IRC as well. That was all. It was not about what you actually talked in that short log. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
I said, i will be back later on but i also said i was busy. i am busy at this very moment (but w/e mafia ftw) and you completely missed my point. i dont want to be in irc. ill go there if you ask me to go there so now i think YOU are the one making the excuse. But w/e. Nothing i can say for certain yet. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
you think im just gonna let this go cause you "pressured" me? I never said so. so now i think YOU are the one making the excuse. What excuse did I make? tell me, please. and you completely missed my point. i dont want to be in irc. I don't care if you want to be in IRC or not. I just checked all available sources for contributions of you and did not find any. That's why I posted it. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On February 16 2012 04:27 ghost_403 wrote: Things you have contributed in this post: 1) Either Mattchew is a townie or he isn't. 2) ... This is a contentless post that does nothing to help us find scum. If you don't want to be lynched, you should suggest a better lynch. There are two good lynches on day 1: people who are scum and people who contribute nothing to the town. I am not convinced you are the first, but you definitely fit the second. You've got a few hours left to change my mind. ##Vote: SpiritClown You also fit the second, hun. Just thought I'd let you know that. Upon reading your filter in the IRC... I can't say you've contributed much else. You've told me you haven't pm'd with anyone. So essentially, you have done nothing anywhere. Prod people, provide your own opinions, probe probulous, I don't care. Just please, do something more than what you've been doing before you accuse someone of doing basically the same thing you're doing. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Sentinel His first major contribution to the thread was in regards to my request for Prpl’s PMs. Here he writes On February 14 2012 10:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: The whole point of PM's is to gain trust. Now I just got here and I will NOT read 10 pages of argumentative text because I just did that for history class, but if I were prplhz I'd be PM'ing noobs to see if they give anything away, or they play legitimately. Experienced people can hide their true intonations. This rang scummy to me. This is basically stating you support fishing for information from newbs. I have made it clear that I don’t like it (others clearly disagree), but this caught my eye. Then he goes and says this On February 15 2012 06:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:I will say though that Lanaia and prplhz were pretty much united through the last IRC log. If one of them flips scum, I can almost guarantee that that's the wolfpack... and with Sinani being cloudy between that exchange and the time I signed on, I have him in my sights too. On February 15 2012 07:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm not saying he's scum because of that. In fact I even told him that he was in the right for doing that. I'm saying if either of you flip scum, the other probably is too. This is really bad logic. Just because Lanaia defends Prpl’s actions does not mean they are on the same team. Sure it would make Lanaia look scummy if Prpl flipped red but here he says he would straight up vote for her. He would lynch her based off a prpl flip. He takes up the argument in IRC [22:27:05] <[UoN]Sentinel> if prplhz was struck down right this moment [22:27:08] <[UoN]Sentinel> and flipped scum [22:27:14] <[UoN]Sentinel> my vote would immediately go to lanaia [22:27:18] <[UoN]Sentinel> and vice versa [22:28:17] <[UoN]Sentinel> because they defend each other Prpl never defended Lanaia, when asked he says [22:30:19] <[UoN]Sentinel> right before sinani started talking about the pistachios The only thing that Prpl mentions about Lanaia is [00:41:46] <derpladee> you guys are morons lol [00:41:53] <derpladee> like every single one of you except Lanaia here Which is hardly defending given no-one was attacking Lanaia. Sentinel has made a concerted effort to link Lanaia and prpl such that one’s alignment will confirm the other. Then he goes and undermines my case against zeurg right after I posted it. A vote for someone is worth nothing if you give them an ready made excuse not to reply. This is what Sentinel writes This unsupported wouldn't be a strong case. I probably do something like that all the time...I'm going to cut off there. I'm still thinking that if it's zeurg's first time he could just be blue and scared of revealing this. I'll put FoS on him and cut him a little break because he's new, but I too expect to hear from him. Sentinel supports fishing for information from newbs, tried really hard to link a Prpl flip with Lanaia and actively undermined my efforts to get zeurg to post. ##Vote [UoN]Sentinel Sorry bro as much fun as you are, you rolled mafia this game. PS: This is irrelevant to the case so it is in spoilers but I had a giggle + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2012 09:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Idea for IRC since it's being logged: Don't make posts like this where you type individual clauses at a time But rather talk like this, preferably in 1 sentence or more. Even if you're not used to it (I always type in fragments too  ) at least make an attempt for this one.That way it's easier to scroll through and find whatever post you're looking for. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
probe probulous I love it when you say that  | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
It's certainly a good point that you bring up. The exact same one that paperscraps brought up a few hours before you on IRC. Because most of us don't have the time to scrape through the logs, here is the interesting part for you. <Paperscraps> ghost_403 stop bing scummy and have an opinion [19:46:57] <ghost_403>  [19:46:59] <Paperscraps> none of this "i dont want to do anything d1 unless i am 100%" [19:47:11] <Paperscraps> time to man up [19:47:25] <ghost_403> i think spirit is a good lynch day 1 [19:47:34] <ghost_403> pretty sure i said that on the thread [19:47:59] *** Joins: Blazinghand (~blazingha@c-76-126-243-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [19:48:20] <ghost_403> prplhz and lanaia have felt a bit scummy to me, but not enough to do anything about it yet [19:48:34] <ghost_403> i don't like how he fished for roles (oh sorry, breaking the ice) [19:48:48] <ghost_403> then wasted my time while i tried to figure out why [19:48:57] <ghost_403> but i don't think that that is a good enough reason to lynch him [19:49:15] <ghost_403> lanaia follows just because she was the only one on irc defending him [19:49:22] <ghost_403> but again, that's a bad reason to lynch someone [19:49:42] <ghost_403> in the meantime, spirit contributes nothing, and does smell of scum for the reasons mattchew pointed out in thread [19:50:01] <ghost_403> i think he's a good lynch for the time being [19:50:33] <ghost_403> ./man up [19:50:42] <Paperscraps>  | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On February 15 2012 09:13 sinani206 wrote: townie lists are bad i honestly dont care if you think im scummy because no one else does This post serves no purpose in the thread. It's not even correct, while lacking any reasoning these lists aren't terribly useful, they at least give me an idea of how the player posting them is approaching the game. On February 15 2012 09:54 sinani206 wrote: i'd rather not hide any facts. i don't have any opinions. Normally when townies are cocky it's because they think they're right, but sinani is actually being cocky without even attempting to be right. Like being cocky isn't a scumtell in itself, because usually it's townies that are assholes. But the way in which sinani is doing it is very scummy. The fact is, it's now very late in the day because of the strange deadline. And sinani has shown no interest in the game at all. The way in which he has shown and described complete disinterest in the game makes him very likely to flip scum. I suggest we make him at least one of our kills for today. ##Vote sinani206 | ||
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prplhz
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