Werewolves Invade Teamliquid II - Page 17

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

February 15 2012 09:55 GMT

#321

l0l its ironic how i never followed my own words
I was too tired though so i went to sleep for the day and started my hw.
Man, IRC setups are LAME. Just getitng lines of text you never want to read.

On February 15 2012 14:58 Lanaia wrote:
Well, fellas, I'm going to vote mderg.
You know why I'm going to vote mderg?

To coerce him into talking, of course.

mderg, how do you feel now? You're being voted.

Everywhere, you've said nothing of substance.
Everywhere, you haven't contributed. Get back in the game or my vote isn't moving. That's a promise.

WTF? you're a semi vet i dont even know why you are fake pressuring a lurker. i thought youd learn by now that ITS NOT EVEN PRESSURE. But honestly, you're never bold in your actions so i cant say much about this except that its fucking terrible

Oh ya, PM me if you want to talk to me on skype or IRC or TL. I will ignore all PMs that are straight up spam like this one.

Original Message From prplhz:
Hi

Do you like me?

Best regards

I will answer in public: no

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

February 15 2012 09:56 GMT

#322

I realized i have said nothing there. FEAR NOT, i dont have anything to say yet.

Bluelightz

Indonesia2463 Posts

February 15 2012 10:35 GMT

#323

On February 15 2012 18:43 Palmar wrote:
Why do you not think Grack is scummy anymore. I agree with you, but I want to hear your reasoning. Do you not find his case against you to be scummy? Are you 100% certain that he'd only be able to come up with this case as town? Why would a townie write such a case against you?

The first, Grack is "sure"of his reads in this game, for this I am using meta, in Student Mafia he made cases and was very sure of his reads.

Next, He post's like not under the control of a scumteam.

Lastly, he would write this just for the sake of how easy it is to push Bluelightz :p

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

February 15 2012 10:36 GMT

#324

Why would a townie write an easy case?

Bluelightz

Indonesia2463 Posts

February 15 2012 10:39 GMT

#325

That, I am not sure.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

February 15 2012 11:05 GMT

#326

Im not lurking i have school. Then im busy and tired after i come back form school. BBL in ~18 hours or so

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

February 15 2012 11:08 GMT

#327

yeah my schedule is butchered up. i go to school, sleep, THEN when everyone is sleeping i do my HWs and go to school..
ALL CAUSE OF MY GOSU WEEKEND DECISION MAKING
saying this cause i dont want to hear the Kenpachi lurker crap. Lurker =/= inactive bitchessssssssssssssssssssssssss

mderg

Germany1740 Posts

February 15 2012 13:40 GMT

#328

I don´t get why you voted for me with all the other lurkers here but that´s not important.

Should I feel pressured now? I don´t, I feel exactly the same way as before. Your "pressuring" somehow doesn´t feel legit to me. Normally (at least from what I saw) you ask lurkers about their opinions on the game, something interesting that happened etc but you just said that I didn´t contribute. It makes it kinda hard to respond for me.

SpiritClown

Italy35 Posts

February 15 2012 15:00 GMT

#329

On February 15 2012 06:58 Probulous wrote:
Well that was a shit night. Bad luck BH and layabout, you obviously played too well.

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You scum bro?

Lol i said sorry because they have to stop to play at first day XD

SpiritClown

Italy35 Posts

February 15 2012 15:06 GMT

#330

And prob the thing about shooting i was referring to town blues and it was also a joke -.-

And the fact that i seem to lurk is because i'm inexperienced so i'm not so good at the game and i prefer to post something that might help instead of spamming (sorry for double post, i had yet to read all the posts done in my absence)

We have till 23:00 KST of today to vote for lynch right?

[UoN]Sentinel

United States11320 Posts

February 15 2012 15:41 GMT

#331

Paperscraps, I know that sarcasm can't be done on the internet properly because of lack of body language, intonation etc. but I thought it was pretty obvious that I was dicking around. Either way it doesn't warrant me being second most scum in the game.

Prplhz once said that since SpiritClown apologized for both deaths that he's on both scum teams. Are you going to use that in your analysis too?

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

February 15 2012 16:11 GMT

#332

On February 16 2012 00:06 SpiritClown wrote:
And prob the thing about shooting i was referring to town blues and it was also a joke -.-

And the fact that i seem to lurk is because i'm inexperienced so i'm not so good at the game and i prefer to post something that might help instead of spamming (sorry for double post, i had yet to read all the posts done in my absence)

We have till 23:00 KST of today to vote for lynch right?

hello there scum.

Vote: SpiritClown

Lanaia

Canada1142 Posts

February 15 2012 16:12 GMT

#333

On February 15 2012 22:40 mderg wrote:

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I wanted to try a different approach. I suppose it wasn't good enough.
Who is your single strongest scum read and why?

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

February 15 2012 16:53 GMT

#334

Lady and Gentlemen I present to you the first scum

SpiritClown

Comparing this (his first game) to my first game (I was scum), I recognized an identical tone and style in posting.

On February 16 2012 00:06 SpiritClown wrote:
And the fact that i seem to lurk is because i'm inexperienced so i'm not so good at the game and i prefer to post something that might help instead of spamming (sorry for double post, i had yet to read all the posts done in my absence)

On February 14 2012 04:07 SpiritClown wrote:

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I'm not suspecting... i just wondered if he sent that to everyone or if he sent it only to some ppl (the newbies)

On November 27 2011 15:27 Mattchew wrote:
I honestly do not know what to say in this thread. I have no feelings as to who is scum and who is town, I don't want to point fingers and end up being wrong because I don't truly understand what I am reading.

On November 28 2011 21:16 Mattchew wrote:

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I think you are refering to me. This is the first time I have felt comfortable in saying anything. Before the clues it has all been politics and post analysis. I don't know how to decifer these things. I am much more comfortable talking about the clues. I think Ciryandor's linking to xttfc and kitaman's death holds more weight because it is a direct correlation but not as "in-your-face" as the syllo death palmar quoted. Either way xttfc has a couple fingers pointing at him.

I want to point you to the case Risen made against me (note, he was town I was scum)
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On November 30 2011 05:25 Risen wrote:
I believe Mattchew is a lurker-mafia. I do not think we should lynch him, I think he should be shot by lurker-vig.

Mattchew has a total of 11 posts since he made it in. Of those, 5 are defending zeks.

Having said that.

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Scum behavior. Maybe you're new, but now that everyone has been saying people need to post so people can get a read, I think it's time to start posting.

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Says that he's more comfortable posting now, and then posts useless fluff. Relies on other people posting their thoughts so he can point to them and say, "Oh but I was just following their logic!"

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On November 29 2011 00:41 Mattchew wrote:

On November 29 2011 00:25 Match wrote:

On November 28 2011 23:46 Mattchew wrote:
##vote ace
##vote risen

Curious as to why you voted these two.

Followed Palmar's 1 for 1 theory especially with ace calling so hard for his lynching while I write this. I figured that palmar can atleast leave us with double lynching if Ace is lynched first and actually turns out to be town.

Followed people's reasoning for calling out risen aka:
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On November 28 2011 23:10 Ciryandor wrote:
In any case, besides zeks, people have forgotten about Risen's post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12490813 and note the timestamp. It's before the nightpost came out, and after people called him out on it, he repeats the EXACT SAME POST http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12491027 after the update shows up. I don't see any real links to his profile from the possible clues in the deathposts, but his lack of response deserves some scrutiny.

On November 28 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:

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Yes, never underestimate how dumb townies can be.

But it's very unlikely, seeing as he promptly decided to celebrate living the night through before he had any way of knowing he would survive.

I'm cool with lynching/vigging/bombing/nuking him.

On November 28 2011 23:31 zeks wrote:
I must say that it is fair for you guys to incriminate me based on those clues but I assure you all I'm Town and if any of you have played clue games you'd know not to go by clues alone because mods tend to make them hard and vague (usually easier to spot as days go on). I'll be posting a write-up on a few people who I think are good lynches based on clues and behaviour.

Although I have taken notice of Risen's major slip which I don't believe is pure coincidence. This can be linked to him

Syllogism was out for his morning run when he stopped to tie his laces. He ran in marathons, and so each day he followed the same routine of waking up in the morning, putting on his tracksuit and going for a half-hour long run through the forest behind his house. Today was no different. Often, the trail he used was completely empty of other people, and so he was surprised when he finished tying his shoes to look up and see a man in a black trench-coat standing off to the side of the trail ahead of him. He was even more surprised when the man lifted a rifle and put two bullets into his chest.

@Match my quote speaks of "woods" not forest

A backstory of my quote:
My quote from a poem by Robert Frost called "The Road Not Taken"

The quote really puts me on the chopping block cause anything with path or road or trail would be linked to me =| sigh.

Well thats my defense I don't know what else to say. I'll do my best to do some analysis before voting ends in the case that I do die.

Well at least he took note of the tiny clue Zeks posted when trying to justify a case against me. Be that as it may, he's using justification from Zeks, who would not want to point the finger at another mafia player. Zeks most likely went through the death notes and was searching for anything that would point to me, that way when people started voting for me it wouldn't appear that they were voting JUST based on a "scumslip". This is really good, because Zeks knows he's going to be lynched, by giving his scum brothers justification to vote me, they can all now say "Oh but the clues pointed to Risen AND he made a scumslip"

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Really? You think my one "scumslip" is the best read we have?

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Now that he sees Zeks is going down he's abandoning ship and just voting for Zeks. Honestly, it would be less scummy in my opinion had he stuck to his guns on this.

In conclusion, I don't think Mattchew has been contributing much of anything. He's lurking and using his posts to just follow other people's logic so he doesn't have to justify anything and can just point the finger to who "persuaded" him. He agrees now that Zeks is mafia but he still wants to vote for me based on Zeks' analysis of a clue? What?

Some points Risen made that I would like to re-use against Spirit

Scum behavior. Maybe you're new, but now that everyone has been saying people need to post so people can get a read, I think it's time to start posting.
Relies on other people posting their thoughts so he can point to them and say, "Oh but I was just following their logic!"
In conclusion, I don't think (SpiritClown) has been contributing much of anything. He's lurking and using his posts to just follow other people's logic so he doesn't have to justify anything and can just point the finger to who "persuaded" him.

Also, SpiritClown has done literally nothing in IRC even though he claims noone was talking. We were talking, and probably 1/3 of this game is Europe (if not more) that is not an excuse.
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212.log:[18:55:54] *** Joins: SpiritClown_ (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[18:56:10] <SpiritClown_> hi
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[19:01:04] <SpiritClown_> no one here?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[19:11:12] *** Quits: SpiritClown_ (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it) (Quit: Page closed)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[21:11:51] *** Joins: SpiritClown (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[21:12:24] *** Quits: SpiritClown (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it) (Quit: Page closed)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:35:33] *** Joins: SpiritClown (webchat@adsl-ull-120-176.51-151.net24.it)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:35:41] <SpiritClown> hello ^^
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:36:03] <SpiritClown> who else is on now?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:37:38] <SpiritClown> i dont0Ã²... at least not completely
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:39:52] <SpiritClown> so aside from the guy spamming pm to know the roles who else do you think is scummy?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:45:53] <SpiritClown> since we want u to suffer we will not shoot or lynch u Schworz ^^
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:47:19] <SpiritClown> nah, I'm a nice guy ^^ but killing a random guy is not helpful to us right now i think
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:48:31] <SpiritClown> so what should we talk about now?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:48:59] <Lanaia> SpiritClown, who do you want to hear more from?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:24] <SpiritClown> what? from who i want to hear more?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:33] <SpiritClown> about what?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:38] <SpiritClown> or about who?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:54] <SpiritClown> oh
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:50:25] <SpiritClown> why so spammy?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:50:48] <SpiritClown> if 2 don't do it mate
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:50:59] <SpiritClown> they are shutting it down in a little
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:51:16] <SpiritClown> also add me to steam palmar pls XD i also have beta (even if i'm newb)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:52:50] <SpiritClown> why are we still talking about rgThewhat? i think we are just wasting time for now
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:52:55] <Lanaia> SpiritClown, i agree
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:53:47] <SpiritClown> so let's just talk about random crap... what do you think of the recent GSL?XDDDDDD
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:54:24] <SpiritClown> i have gsl in the morning, good luck whatching in europe

/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:54:47] <SpiritClown> in europe it's like at 10 am
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:55:07] <SpiritClown> europe or Korea?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:55:33] <SpiritClown> where i am it's 9:55 pm
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:57:13] <SpiritClown> well what about the ghost nerf?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:58:35] <SpiritClown> raven would be nice to see... dunno though...
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:58:51] <SpiritClown> how does mech requires more apm? just for the tank siege?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:59:06] <SpiritClown> i don't understand that
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:04:12] <SpiritClown> the thing about P is that it has the most spellcasters so it might be difficult for that
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:13:41] <SpiritClown> so... coming back to mafia... what do you think should we do? just wait?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:14:52] <SpiritClown> mhh might be a bit soon but maybe the guy asking for rolecheks on PM's...
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:16:03] <SpiritClown> y claims, sry new to the game expecially in english
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:16:09] <SpiritClown> so my terminology it's not the best
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:27] <SpiritClown> y, thanks

/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:38] <SpiritClown> he also claimed me scum for not telling him -.-
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:49] <SpiritClown> and saying everyone else told him
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:53] <SpiritClown> an obvious lie
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:19:18] <SpiritClown> y prplhz
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:19:39] <SpiritClown> oh is it him?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:25:00] <SpiritClown> u troll for the sake of trolling there's no more reasons needed
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:25:03] <SpiritClown> in general i mean
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:26:55] <SpiritClown> i was not talking about you
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:29:16] <SpiritClown> opinions about the new post in the thread?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:30:19] <SpiritClown>

/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:33:54] <SpiritClown> lol
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:36:31] <SpiritClown> y
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:36:50] <SpiritClown> should i post the PM or not?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:39:34] <SpiritClown> posted
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:42:17] <SpiritClown> i would have loved to claimed scum just to troll
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:42:39] <SpiritClown> XD
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:44:57] <SpiritClown> hi
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:54:38] <SpiritClown> hi
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:55:18] <SpiritClown> uat?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[22:00:58] <SpiritClown> sry i dunno
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[22:08:19] <SpiritClown> well guys i would love to stay here more but i have to get up early tomorrow morning
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[22:08:30] <SpiritClown> so bye bye and see ya later

Also, this shouldn't be the foundation of my case, but the guys said sorry or sry 7 times in irc and thread

So far, I believe Spirit to be the most sure-fire lynch we have

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

February 15 2012 17:37 GMT

#335

Thursday, Feb 16 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) is the end of the cycle I believe

About 22 hours till lynch(s) and night actions

(mod confirm plz)

Grackaroni

United States9846 Posts

February 15 2012 18:15 GMT

#336

Like Lanaia has mentioned earlier we need to start putting down our votes.

##Vote: Bluelightz

Mattchew is right that new scum often put a lot of emphasis on the fact that they are new and that their reads might not be good. Spiritclown would also be a good lynch if we are planning on tieing the vote.

I think paperscraps' needs a better reason for believing that Sentinel is scum, the conversation he posted is pretty obviously trollish and is a null tell.

Ciryandor

United States3735 Posts

February 15 2012 18:25 GMT

#337

On February 16 2012 02:37 Mattchew wrote:
Thursday, Feb 16 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) is the end of the cycle I believe

About 22 hours till lynch(s) and night actions

(mod confirm plz)

Confirming on the date, but I miscalculated by 1 hour, it was supposed to be 00:00 KST to give me time to write the update before sleeping.

Note that Night Orders have to be sent before the deadline; i.e. players will get both a day and night post in one single update.

SpiritClown

Italy35 Posts

February 15 2012 18:30 GMT

#338

Now that u believe I'm scum i think i have done something wrong (because I'm not scum). As for missing analysis and "not doing anything to contribute" that's because I really have nothing to say... what should I do? If i just spam it's scum behaviour and if i don't it's scum behaviour because I'm lurking -.-

Whathether... Honestly i think prplhz is scum (or scummy at least) because of his reaction to me refusing to tell him his role... that's the only thing I can honestly say... about the other people i don't know.

Maybe i should just don't play like i do in every other game being nice to people and being sorry if they can't play since in mafia they all think u are scum if u do so...

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

February 15 2012 18:33 GMT

#339

On February 14 2012 18:10 Ciryandor wrote:

Day 1 Begins. You have 54 hours and 50 minutes to vote.

18:10 KST +50 Minutes = 19:00 KST; +7 hours = 2am KST on Feb 15th; +48 hours = 2 am KST on Feb 17th

So Day 1 Ends Feb 17th, 2am KST
or
Feb 16th, 18:00 CET (GMT+1)

phagga

Switzerland2194 Posts

February 15 2012 18:37 GMT

#340

EBWOP forget my above post, Cyriandor ninjad me while i was calculating

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