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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#81
The inquisitor has fallen to the taint of chaos!! We must avenge him and destroy the taint of Chaos where ever it may hide! For the glory of the Emperor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Timeaisis
Profile Joined January 2012
23 Posts
February 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#82
On February 02 2012 13:33 Sinensis wrote:

I have the same position as Timeaisis. I want to hear everyone say at least one thing before we decide who to kill first... that doesn't change the fact that there are people on this ship who must be killed in the name of the emperor. As of right now we outnumber the scum, killing randomly seems like it will statistically cripple our chances.


Agreed. But if someone remains silent for too long we may have no choice but to choose them.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#83
ooc: Hey that was 1500, cool I'm a reaver yaya!!

For the Glory of the Imperium!!!!
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 05:01 GMT
#84
Any Chaos scum want to turn themselves in while they can? I can't promise a quick death... but it'll be quicker than if you make us find you, I assure.
Vilonis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
February 02 2012 05:31 GMT
#85
In the short time I have been reading about mafia (4ish? days), D1 seems to be a dilemma. Some have suggested a random lynch (Newbie Mini Mafia III), but that is statistically in favor of the mafia. Others have suggested a no lynch, but that is also in favor of the scum. Some players choose to remain as quiet as possible, because when all you have to go on is what people say based on nothing, any mistake can end your life, regardless of your affiliation. However, remaining silent also gets you killed, again, regardless of your role.

One thing is clear, we must force the traitors among us to speak! I am an instrument of the Emperor's will, the taint of chaos can not hide from our sight. Let us actively seek out the unclean. If we do not, it could be the doom of us all. Time is our enemy, truth is our strength.

Sidenote: I love the warhammer theme, I could really get into this!

Let me inquire you, my brothers. What shall be our course of action to seek out and purge the heretics among us?
"Such is the vastness of his genius that he can outwit even himself!" - Iskaral Pust, High Priest of High House Shadow
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 02 2012 05:40 GMT
#86
On February 02 2012 14:31 Vilonis wrote:
One thing is clear, we must force the traitors among us to speak!


This is good. Need people to talk to get reads.

On February 02 2012 13:52 Timeaisis wrote:

Agreed. But if someone remains silent for too long we may have no choice but to choose them.


This is bad. If someone just hasn't said anything, then they're on chopping black to get modkilled. If someone does something suspicious then sort of drifts off with weak defense, THAT is something to look at, but you don't just lynch inactives. They are rarely mafia. unless it's a huge game.

AKA lynch all lurkers is bad
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 02 2012 05:42 GMT
#87
BTW, if you're new make sure you read the rules meticulously. like, no editing posts (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE), no posting pix of your inbox, etc. town suciding by rule ignorance is the worst.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Timeaisis
Profile Joined January 2012
23 Posts
February 02 2012 05:42 GMT
#88
OK, good to know. So basically, if someone speaks once and then is silent, that's a sign. But sounds like inactives are gonna get killed anyway. Good to know. So what is the best strategy, D1? Lynch or no lynch? Its seems both of those are in favor of scum, but I guess we just have to play it by ear.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 02 2012 06:03 GMT
#89
EBWOP: I think my wording was a bit unclear, meant to say that especially take note that editing posts is not allowed.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
February 02 2012 06:27 GMT
#90
hi guys; just saw my role pm going to bed now, gnight
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 02 2012 06:27 GMT
#91
On February 02 2012 14:42 Timeaisis wrote:
OK, good to know. So basically, if someone speaks once and then is silent, that's a sign. But sounds like inactives are gonna get killed anyway. Good to know. So what is the best strategy, D1? Lynch or no lynch? Its seems both of those are in favor of scum, but I guess we just have to play it by ear.


Ahhh don't take advice from anyone in game once it has started, you have no idea who could be chaos (mafia) and is feeding you bad information. Go read the sticky-ed strategy threads in the mafia forum if you need help.

Though I suppose the very nature of that advice precludes you from taking the advice I just gave you.... well okay don't take any in-game advice from people starting.... now.

For the glory of the Emperor!


I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 02 2012 06:29 GMT
#92
On February 02 2012 15:27 sinani206 wrote:
hi guys; just saw my role pm going to bed now, gnight


You've already gotten one vote for lynching, and you have nothing to say about that?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 06:41 GMT
#93
A day 1 lynch in theory has a 25% chance of killing an enemy of the emperor at random with the numbers we have. The problem a day 1 lynch proposes is who to lynch? Further, who decides who to lynch?

The alternative is not killing the first night while the Chaos scum are allowed time to get comfortable. Will they try to kill in the night? Why wouldn't they? Odds are they'll do terrible terrible damage. Even if they don't they'll have time to fortify and strike twice tomorrow night. Our situation is grim no matter how you look at it, so lets talk choices while we can still make them.

The first decision we need to make is if we're going to kill on the first night, lets take this one step at a time. Please post whether you think we should lynch tonight or not and why.

I'll tell you what I think, it involves a plan and is OBVIOUSLY up for debate/criticism/modification:

We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed.

If you agree with me say so, if you disagree I want to hear why... this will at the very least spur juicy discussion to comb,
Timeaisis
Profile Joined January 2012
23 Posts
February 02 2012 06:50 GMT
#94
I agree. But not because probablity. 25% isn't great, but you're right that it'll only get worse. I think we should lynch the first night because if we don't the agents of chaos may start to get comfortable. I figure we need to lynch so they know immediately we're out for them and we don't think twice about accidently killing our own. If we don't lynch, then all we have the next day is more talk, which may still yield nothing. At least lynching someone will promote some sort of reaction from the rest of us, giving us more to go on next time.

My two cents, anyway.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 06:57 GMT
#95
KILL TO CLEANSE
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 07:04 GMT
#96
I have fought these Chaos infidels on a different front. These Chaos agents will make you beg for that 25% later if you let them.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 02 2012 09:09 GMT
#97
Sup guys got my role PM anyway,

Here's my take on roles

1 Of the vets(Sinani/prplhz) is SCUM(Not sure about this tho if GM wants to screw with us
3/3 Chaos Followers Remain
?/1 Chaos Cultist(s)
?/1 Chaos Fatespinner(s)
?/1 Chaos Plaguebearer(s)
?/0 Chaos Hedonist(s)

9/9 Imperial Forces Remain
?/5/6 Imperial Guardsmen
?/1?Imperial Priest(s)
?/1? Imperial Psyker(s)
?/1?Imperial Stormtrooper(s)
?/1? Imperial Commissar(s)
?/1/2? Tainted By Chaos

DISREGARD ANY CLAIMS BESIDES THE TOWN ROLES ABOVE.


Also, note to everyone if we have a dt please breadcrumb your results so if you die we can find them




Never, NEVER, I repeat never NO LYNCH D1

Anyways to who I think is possibly a traitor among us,

On February 02 2012 15:41 Sinensis wrote:
A day 1 lynch in theory has a 25% chance of killing an enemy of the emperor at random with the numbers we have. The problem a day 1 lynch proposes is who to lynch? Further, who decides who to lynch?

The alternative is not killing the first night while the Chaos scum are allowed time to get comfortable. Will they try to kill in the night? Why wouldn't they? Odds are they'll do terrible terrible damage. Even if they don't they'll have time to fortify and strike twice tomorrow night. Our situation is grim no matter how you look at it, so lets talk choices while we can still make them.

The first decision we need to make is if we're going to kill on the first night, lets take this one step at a time. Please post whether you think we should lynch tonight or not and why.

I'll tell you what I think, it involves a plan and is OBVIOUSLY up for debate/criticism/modification:

We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed.

If you agree with me say so, if you disagree I want to hear why... this will at the very least spur juicy discussion to comb,


##Vote: Sinensis

No one, should decide who to lynch, people themselves should decide who to vote.

Also: Fluff "I think we should kill first night, I think we should kill first night again"



VOTING

How many mislynches till LYLO( including mafia kills, but not delay)

not including possible vig kills/dt checks/medic heals/vet hits

+ Show Spoiler +

12-3 -> 10-3
10-3 -> 8-3
8-3 -> 6-3
6-3 -> 4-3
4-3(LYLO)



Voting Strat:

~Never, never never EVER RNG Lynch(Though there is that 25% chance >.<)

~We should always lynch d1 because without the first lynch we will lack lots of information without it.

~LA-Lurkers, If we don't find a lynch candidate I'm fine with lynching a lurker




Lurkers:

Lurkers HURT TOWN, if you are lurking STOP IT.

I will not tolerate lurkers, in Mini Mafia's with not a lot of people Lurkers hurt real bad.

Lurkers, hurt town how?

~Less Information

~Less possibilities for lynching

~Possibly a vote lost to town, because most lurkers sheep.





Closing words:

I will tolerate lurkers for the first 24 hours because not all players are awake/have acces to the computer to post.


Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 02 2012 09:55 GMT
#98
On February 02 2012 18:09 Bluelightz wrote:
Sup guys got my role PM anyway,

Here's my take on roles

1 Of the vets(Sinani/prplhz) is SCUM(Not sure about this tho if GM wants to screw with us
3/3 Chaos Followers Remain
?/1 Chaos Cultist(s)
?/1 Chaos Fatespinner(s)
?/1 Chaos Plaguebearer(s)
?/0 Chaos Hedonist(s)

9/9 Imperial Forces Remain
?/5/6 Imperial Guardsmen
?/1?Imperial Priest(s)
?/1? Imperial Psyker(s)
?/1?Imperial Stormtrooper(s)
?/1? Imperial Commissar(s)
?/1/2? Tainted By Chaos

DISREGARD ANY CLAIMS BESIDES THE TOWN ROLES ABOVE.


Also, note to everyone if we have a dt please breadcrumb your results so if you die we can find them




Never, NEVER, I repeat never NO LYNCH D1

Anyways to who I think is possibly a traitor among us,

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 15:41 Sinensis wrote:
A day 1 lynch in theory has a 25% chance of killing an enemy of the emperor at random with the numbers we have. The problem a day 1 lynch proposes is who to lynch? Further, who decides who to lynch?

The alternative is not killing the first night while the Chaos scum are allowed time to get comfortable. Will they try to kill in the night? Why wouldn't they? Odds are they'll do terrible terrible damage. Even if they don't they'll have time to fortify and strike twice tomorrow night. Our situation is grim no matter how you look at it, so lets talk choices while we can still make them.

The first decision we need to make is if we're going to kill on the first night, lets take this one step at a time. Please post whether you think we should lynch tonight or not and why.

I'll tell you what I think, it involves a plan and is OBVIOUSLY up for debate/criticism/modification:

We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed.

If you agree with me say so, if you disagree I want to hear why... this will at the very least spur juicy discussion to comb,


##Vote: Sinensis

No one, should decide who to lynch, people themselves should decide who to vote.

Also: Fluff "I think we should kill first night, I think we should kill first night again"



VOTING

How many mislynches till LYLO( including mafia kills, but not delay)

not including possible vig kills/dt checks/medic heals/vet hits

+ Show Spoiler +

12-3 -> 10-3
10-3 -> 8-3
8-3 -> 6-3
6-3 -> 4-3
4-3(LYLO)



Voting Strat:

~Never, never never EVER RNG Lynch(Though there is that 25% chance >.<)

~We should always lynch d1 because without the first lynch we will lack lots of information without it.

~LA-Lurkers, If we don't find a lynch candidate I'm fine with lynching a lurker




Lurkers:

Lurkers HURT TOWN, if you are lurking STOP IT.

I will not tolerate lurkers, in Mini Mafia's with not a lot of people Lurkers hurt real bad.

Lurkers, hurt town how?

~Less Information

~Less possibilities for lynching

~Possibly a vote lost to town, because most lurkers sheep.





Closing words:

I will tolerate lurkers for the first 24 hours because not all players are awake/have acces to the computer to post.




How is someone going to get lynched D1 if no one decides who gets lynched? You need half or more votes to lynch. If you have an idea about how to decide who to kill I want to hear it.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 02 2012 10:03 GMT
#99
Well, I'm finally done reading.

As for D1 lynch, sometimes we get lucky and someone paints themselves red, then lynch lynch to victory
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 02 2012 10:14 GMT
#100
Hmm, I meant that we should never be like

__ Votes him! lets vote him too!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
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