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TheToast
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*cue prplhz's annoying blurb about how he is confirmed town and how that means he's right* It's time we get fucking serious about hunting the heretics. Homework for everyone except prplhz night 2, post your thoughts and analysis about ALL of the following people: mderg, EchelonTee, Nisani201 | ||
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TheToast
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On February 07 2012 12:19 EchelonTee wrote: you're so bad and hypocritical its not even funny. at least sinensis was blatant about it. Innocent townies lynched by you 2/2 Innocent townies lynched by me 0. FoS: EchelonTee You'll remember that I said the third person was either you or Sentinel. Sentinel is looking awfully clean right now. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 07 2012 12:29 Nisani201 wrote: We are lynching Sentinel tomorrow, end of story. Ahh yes, let's lynch another townie! | ||
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TheToast
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On February 07 2012 12:38 GMarshal wrote: Can we tone down the hostility a wee bit please? Thanks ^_^ I thought you were going to bed? We'll behave, I promise GM. I'll tone back the RPing. :/ | ||
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TheToast
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Just want to know how much time I have left to write up my thoughts. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 08 2012 04:08 prplhz wrote: If you trusted me then why didn't you vote with me? Did any of the rest of you back down because they trust in confirmed townies and because they think I'm a good scumhunter? (I DID kill a scum night1, that's not too bad you know) Kinda looks like you're making this shit up. Anyway, I'm decided. I'm pushing you tomorrow. What? Don't you think if Nisani were scum that he would have been voting on the town lynching bandwagon with you both days? Don't you think Nisani would have wanted to kill Time and Sinesis? Idk what to make of this, unless this is just a CYA thing because you are afraid of getting shot tonight. | ||
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TheToast
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As I said before, I'm not sure about Nisani being scum, he has twice now been on the opposite side of the bandwagons against town members. Doesn't mean he's clean but seems to avert my suspicions for now. Though I am again worried about prphlz deciding to declare a crusade against someone with absolutely no evidence or reasoning. I'm not entirely sure he's town, but that may just be coming from his lack of contributions this game. I really don't see any evidence against him as a sum players. Which of course brings me to ET. I already wrote up my thoughts on ET's posts for day 1 here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306452¤tpage=16#319 (sorry for the messed up quotes) My conclusion at the time was that he was just terrible at analysis. But seeing that he did it again Day 2 I am getting a bit worried. Not much to go on for ET's posts Day2, the only one of real substance is where he accused Sinesis: On February 07 2012 08:48 EchelonTee wrote: sigh sinensis... You're so stubborn that you don't realize you're wrong when the time stamps are clearly visible. Why are you STILL trying to discredit prplhz?? I don't give a shit if he's a vet or not. he SHOT sinani. despite all you people reading him as town. wtf have you done all game, besides insult people. Oh, is this supposed to be your master stroke? 1. The problem with gambits such as this, is that by doing a SUPER SCUMMY move, you make TOWN people suspicious of you. It never occurred to you that a townie might start the movement on you? This paragraph here is just so wtf. Are you saying that mderg is added to your "probably town list", just because he told you prplhz can't be mafia because of no CC?? I stated that before mderg. PRPLHZ stated that before mderg. It took a one liner from mderg to convince you? This just reeks of "try to make prplhz look bad at any cost". 2.I noticed this the first time you said it; didn't make sense then, doesn't make sense now. How can you CONFIRM anyone's innocence? It's D1, no flips, no night actions, nothing. You can't possibly use voting analysis at that state of the game. Look at sinani; you sure were convinced he was town because he voted for Blue, remember? I said I would be back before deadline. Placeholder vote is placeholder vote. Since you're so anxious, ##Vote: Sinensis I don't have a problem with the first part. Sinesis majorly muddied the waters day 1, I also called out Sinesis for this so I can't hold this against ET. The second half of this argument makes no sense to me. Essentially ET is saying that Sinesis is scum for going after prphlz. I should point out that I did as well, and said I was not going to move my vote until I was sure there was not going to be a counter claim. Sinesis followed me in this. We both moved our votes when it became clear that no one was going to counter claim. How does that make him scum and me not? I'm not sure I understand point 2 at all. ET thought he was scum because he was unhappy that ET's bad analysis lead to Time getting lynched? I don't understand this at all. Either way this is pretty much the bulk of ET's posting from Day2, not much to go on so I really can't get a good read. Still on my list of suspicions though. Not sure what is going on with BaronFel, I can't make head or tails of his (lack of) posting. I guess we will have to see who gets the axe Night 2 and try to analyze it. I'm still wondering why Violinis was the mafia hit day 1, looking at the two together may give us some insight into who is on the right track. Hopefully I'm still here by then :S | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
I'm going to sit down tomorrow and go through some of these with a fine tooth comb. Let's **NOT** just jump on the Sentinel bandwagon with Nisani. At least until we have some good evidence and analysis on Sentinel and Nisani has actually been cleared. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 09 2012 03:08 EchelonTee wrote: Also, lol at the phrase "TheToast's posts" haha TheToast is the host with the most boast to post from coast to coast. Also, due to some personal stuff (job interview!) and some other stuff I'm working on I'm probably not going to have time to post my full analysis until tomorrow afternoon (US time). So I'm not lurking, just busy  | ||
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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 09:30 prplhz wrote: Okay lets just lynch Bluelightz. I can't take this kind of crap any longer, sorry. ##Vote: Bluelightz I take it back, if you think bluelightz is scum then I must have been wrong about him all along :D :D I'm going to read through everything in just a bit and make my vote, sorry for lack or participation (stupid real life!). It doesn't look like my vote is going to matter much though... | ||
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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 10:45 prplhz wrote: How about BaronFel? We could lynch BaronFel. lol. I don't know that I would be opposed to this. I'm going over both Sentinel and Nisani's filters right now. It looks like my vote could swing the lynch against Sentinel, and the two of us could lynch Nisani. We still have just under an hour, gimme some time here, long post incoming. | ||
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TheToast
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Only 27 posts in this entire thread, not much to go on here. Nisani started out day one with his brief and unexplained vote on Sentinel, saying basically that his bandwagoning against Sinesis is what made him suspicious. Of course this was bizarre since Bluelightz was actually the one who started the wagon against Sentinel. Nisani came back with this to say: On February 04 2012 09:18 Nisani201 wrote: Alright, a lot of stuff has happened in the past few pages. I wish I could have been more active but I haven't been able to. Anyways, the vote on Sentinel was more of a reaction test than anything. That's why I didn't use any reasoning in the initial post against him. His posts have been very good as of late and I no longer feel comfortable voting for him. ##Unvote However, this post from Timeaisis really takes it home. I don't know why a town would make this kind of post. He briefly talks about other people but then dismisses it in favor of a Sentinel lynch. Timeaisis is also very aggressive against prplhz for very little reason. I don't like how he's overblowing this post against prplhz. It's a very weak case and since prplhz is making a lot of sense, I could see why a scum would want him dead. ##Vote: Timeaisis Claims he was testing Sentinel, and that he decided to back off because his posts seemed clean. Okay, fair enough. He says his next target is now Time for "being too aggressive". Check Time's filter, I'm not sure where this is coming from. Doesn't mention a thing again until after Day 1. After the Sinesis stuff of Day 2, Nisani comes back with this: On February 06 2012 04:27 Nisani201 wrote: OMFG, today is pretty much a fucking repeat of yesterday. Sinesis does something stupid, Sentinel votes him, then Bluelightz wants us to do something that would benefit scum. prplhz is confirmed town, so no one should be voting him. I am really tempted to vote for Sentinel right now but I'll wait to see if anything else comes up. Big FoS: sentinel On February 07 2012 12:29 Nisani201 wrote: We are lynching Sentinel tomorrow, end of story. His basic logic here is that Sentinel's attack on Sinesis makes him scummy. Terrible reasoning, but it seems to me that scum would actively be encouraging an attack on a townie... On February 07 2012 06:06 Nisani201 wrote: Alright, I have decided that I will vote Sentinel. I understand why people don't like Sinesis, but I just can't imagine him being scum. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel Big deal right here. Why would scum be defending a townie against a bandwagon???? That makes no sense at all. Nisani has been focusing on Sentinel since day 1, he has been at the opposite ends of the bandwagon against a townie twice, he has not been trying to manipulate the town in any way. His analysis against Sentinel looks pretty good too. Either he is the worst scum player in the history of Mafia, or he is pretty damn confirmed town. Not saying I agree with him about Sentinel yet, but no way I'm supporting a Nisani lynch tonight. Few more posts incoming, I'm trying to split these up so others actually have time to read what I'm writing before the deadline. | ||
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TheToast
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After looking through Nisani201's filter, I think he's rather suspicious (short posts, didn't explain his decisions much). He's probably my main suspect at this point. Or at least this is the only reasoning I could find given. What the hell is this? Did he even read Nisani's filter? Never attempted to make any analysis of Nisani's vote against Sentinel, never attempted to analyze any of Nisani's posts at all. It's interesting how much more active BaronFel became after Sinani was lost on Day1. Still supremely lurking though. Remember what I said a while back that new mafia players are going to have a tendency to lurk? Most are going to lurk out of fear of slipping up. ##Vote: Timeaisis For now (He has been acting odd, and I think playing up the "Im new" card a bit too much), although I'm still watching prplhz (for having such a surprising turn around of character) and Sinensis (for some questionable logic, which even as a townie, is dangerous). I feel like a complete idiot for not catching this one before. A complete stupid idiot. ET in his bad analysis called out Time for playing the "I'm new" card too much. After a quick peek at Time's filter I realized that he had only mentioned this twice at the extreme start of the game. The word "new" only appeared once in Time's filter before ET called him out. I called out ET about this one Day 2, and ET has since admitted that his analysis was bad. For Baron to have picked up on this, he must have just been copying exactly what ET had written without any checking himself (as checking would have led him to the same conclusion as I reached, that ET's reasoning was bad). VERY interesting that Baron was just repeating exactly what ET was saying, without mentioning that it was ET who said it. This has bandwagon-starting (is that a thing? who cares no time!) written all over it. Senensis as I said in day 1 seems to just be hampering the town and I really don't think he'll ever really try to help us find the rest of the scum...(I could overlook his day 1, but day 2 it's almost like he's trying to do this on purpose. If there was a joker in this game, I'd assume he was it xD) Missed this mess of a reasoning too. Damnit. By itself it may not be suspicious, but the night before his name was being said a lot, and then today he seems really jumpy put the focus on to others rather then defending himself. That just makes him more suspicious to me. Perhaps its the wrong feeling to have but that's just my take on it. Here's the rest of the "reason" on Nisani. Does he look "jumpy" to anyone else? How do we even tell that on a forum??? Bottom line Baron is looking good as scum. Interesting that the ONLY other person voting against Nisani right now is [UoN]Sentinel. Looking at him next, if votes stay where they are right now, I very well may make #4 on Sentinel, but let me read through his filter first. | ||
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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 11:32 prplhz wrote: Dude. He isn't defending [UoN]Sentinel. Then he would be yelling and screaming and telling everybody else to get their votes off him. He is saying "I don't think he's scum" with no analysis at all. This is what scum do so they don't have to vote for townies. He is saying it for town credit. Isn't that infinitely obvious to anyone? What do you mean either "worst scum" or "confirmed townie"? That doesn't make any sense at all, and furthermore, you're not concluding anything right now and it's 30 mins before deadline on a day where nobody is around. Don't you see how ludicrous this is? What do you know about the "history of mafia"? How many games did you play and where? Sorry didn't explain that well in my haste. I was talking about Nisani defending Sinesis in that post. He says quite clearly--in the midst of a bandwagon--that Sinesis isn't scum and we should be focusing elsewhere. Why would scum do that now that we can confirm Sinesis was town? | ||
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TheToast
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On February 10 2012 11:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I have only sided with Baron as of recent, and only because I believe Nisani's logic sucks. I was also the first to vote him today. You're not helping the case against yourself. Still looking through your filter, I may change my mind. But in case I miss the deadline: Vote [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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TheToast
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##Vote [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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Vote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel # sign, check colon, check bold, check spelling, check Okay, I think I have it this time. | ||
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