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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 06 2012 03:06 GMT
#381
Hurr durr inactivity.

Anyways, Bluelightz, if you don't want to get lynched I want to see some in-depth analysis of as many accusations as you can, otherwise I'm voting you too.

@Nisani since the "confirmed town" is investing so heavily in my defense, I think that explanation for me being scum is gone.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 03:15 GMT
#382
@[UoN]Sentinel

I'm considering if I should push your lynch just for all the stupid shit you've said, from "I will now treat you as confirmed town because you helped in my defense" to "the confirmed townie thinks I'm townie so I'm clearly townie".

One premise is a misconception, the other is plain wrong, and the conclusions cannot even be arrived at from the premises.

I don't recall you saying anything remotely this stupid in Hammer Mini Mafia, why are you doing it this game?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 06 2012 03:16 GMT
#383
Well it's that time of day again where BaronFel still has his vote on me, maybe because of inactivity, maybe because he thinks I haven't been helpful, maybe because he hates me. Who knows, he's not posting? Also that time of day where Bluelightz posts yet another "meh" response to accusations against him and manages to get nothing done in the process. The people who consistently care are still trying to get SOMEONE to talk by any means necessary.

prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 03:22 GMT
#384
I think town is trying its hardest to throw this away, it's very rare that you have a scum dead by day2 and you guys are just derping it away with massive inactivity. I'm not amused at all. Even if I think somebody is scum, I cannot reliably push them before I know everybody else is town.

Everybody is responsible for making their own innocence apparent to everybody else. This is primarily done through activity and transparency. You guys are not doing this in a sufficient degree and it's making me pretty upset.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 06 2012 03:27 GMT
#385
And it's also that time of day where due to alcohol, or contributing to analysis I agree with, prplhz isn't on my scum list.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 06 2012 03:35 GMT
#386
On February 06 2012 12:15 prplhz wrote:
@[UoN]Sentinel

I'm considering if I should push your lynch just for all the stupid shit you've said, from "I will now treat you as confirmed town because you helped in my defense" to "the confirmed townie thinks I'm townie so I'm clearly townie".

One premise is a misconception, the other is plain wrong, and the conclusions cannot even be arrived at from the premises.

I don't recall you saying anything remotely this stupid in Hammer Mini Mafia, why are you doing it this game?


I'm dicking around because it's the weekend, so I don't feel like working. Next morning I might be helpful if you guys bring something nice to the table for me to jump on. And I've been doing a lot of work these two days, so I'm actually contributing to the inactivity, hypocrisy for the win

In 6 hours or so I will wake up and contribute analysis, IF someone actually posts reasons, logic, etc. Because honestly page 17 was 3 guys arguing between each other, and there's at least 3 lurkers on this thread.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
February 06 2012 04:06 GMT
#387
Mafia =/= work to me; don't know how you'll have more time in the weekday when you'd have work/school. You can contribute analysis without other people posting analysis first (which we have, anyways). 20 pages in thread = people have been talking = analysis can be made. That is, if you feel like doing anything.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 06 2012 04:17 GMT
#388
Okay, there are other people I'm more worried about than Bluelightz.

If you don't think there's enough content in the thread to analyse then generate something.

List of people who have done just about nothing so far day2:
TheToast
BaronFel
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 06 2012 04:53 GMT
#389
On February 06 2012 13:17 prplhz wrote:
Okay, there are other people I'm more worried about than Bluelightz.

If you don't think there's enough content in the thread to analyse then generate something.

List of people who have done just about nothing so far day2:
TheToast
BaronFel


Don't start making lists, really. I was waiting on a possible counter claim vigilante, also thought it might be useful to see who else would stay on board with the prphlz vote. I also should point out that I wrote more than about anyone else for night 1.

For the moment the evidence against you seems to have come up empty, so I will move my vote to where it should have been all along.

##Unvote prphlz
##Vote Bluelightz


I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 06 2012 04:54 GMT
#390
damn

##Unvote prplhz
##Vote Bluelightz

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
February 06 2012 05:55 GMT
#391
On February 06 2012 12:06 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Hurr durr inactivity.

Anyways, Bluelightz, if you don't want to get lynched I want to see some in-depth analysis of as many accusations as you can, otherwise I'm voting you too.

@Nisani since the "confirmed town" is investing so heavily in my defense, I think that explanation for me being scum is gone.

Just because he's confirmed mean he's right.
Enjoy your day.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 06 2012 05:57 GMT
#392
Guys my posting will be a little random right now till about 2-3 hours from now.

Also @ above instant delurk~

(Im posting in school)
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 06 2012 10:44 GMT
#393
Bluelightz, could you explain this list for me?


My reads on everyone:

EchelonTee
TheToast
Nisani201
Sinensis
mderg
[UoN]Sentinel
BaronFel
prplhz


I've read the three filters of the dead people:

On February 04 2012 04:54 sinani206 wrote:
OK, so we have 2 lynch candidates: timeaisis and sentinel.
Everyone not on these should switch to them now to make sure we have no stragglers at lynch time. (Bluelightz/Vilonis/TheToast)
The fact that they are voting for each other already makes me pretty sure that one of them is mafia.
Timeaisis is looking more newb-town with the quick votes on him, so I will be voting for sentinel who has gone quiet since he took the lead in votes.
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel


Sinani as scum wants someone gone so he'll push whoever has more votes forward to thin out numbers. But then he says the bandwagon was "too fast-forming to be legitimate" on Timeaisis, and switches his vote... to Bluelightz. I find it odd that if a scum player is up for lynching and he's in third place, another scum would bus him like that.

Vilonis was a weird one. He really hated Nisani201 up until he said "Timeaisis is guilty, Sentinel and Bluelightz are innocent" and then switches that to "prplhz and Bluelightz are guilty, TheToast is innocent" with absolutely no logic to transition the two (other than that Toast voted innocent on Timeaisis). But then he flipped town. I think this was just bandwagoning on Timeaisis, since his logic consisted of links to Nisani's posts.

On February 05 2012 08:44 Vilonis wrote:
I'm not going to analyse who I think is mafia, I am going to analyse why TheToast is town, why we should belive what he says that huge ass post he just made, and, therefore, why we should lynch Bluelightz and prphlz.

First, his consistency. Everyone should read through TheToast's filter. He has been tracking and building up evidence against Bluelightz and prphlz the whole game.

He didn't want to lynch Timeasis

Example,
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 09:47 TheToast wrote:
On February 04 2012 09:15 sinani206 wrote:
OK, I don't think you people understand.
Get your fucking votes on Sentinel or Timeasis.
We can't risk a NL on Day 1.
In case you don't understand,
This game uses Extended Majority Lynch. That is, at the deadline the player with a majority of votes is lynched (majority = 1/2 the remaining players, rounded down + 1), if no one has a majority then no lynch will take place.


THIS MEANS YOU:
Bluelightz
Vilonis
TheToast
BaronFel
mderg


Also @prplhz:
lol


Nope, I'm good right where I am. Timeaisis or Sentinel may be scum, but I don't think there is enough evidence against either one.

Since you all seem to have rejected the logic of my plan, I hope you all get really lucky.


In addition, he has done more helpful analysis than anyone else in this thread, and called out more poor analysis.

The point of all of this? TheToast is right. If it is possible, he should be saved. He is the most obvious town right now.

We should also keep an eye on Bluelightz and prphlz, and consider them strong lynch candidates.


I think this was bandwagoning as well, since he just pretty much says "Toast is innocent because he didn't lynch a fellow townie, and this is who he thinks is mafia."

And finally, Timeaisis, peace be upon him. He wanted a Bluelightz lynch for his inconsistency, then switched to me, caused a shitstorm, and then before he died voted Bluelightz.

Bluelightz had something going for him like sinani up there. He didn't defend himself when sinani bussed him, but this could be just because someone else (Timeaisis) was already getting the axe so he didn't need to.

And then he suggested mass roleclaim... best case scenario newbie mistake, worst case scenario he's trying to present targets that coule be nice and juicy to scumteam. If the doctor revealed himself, there would be nobody to save him. If other blues revealed themselves, since that was the whole intent of the plan, the doctor can't save them all. He did say the medic could hide, but he couldn't save the vigilante or the veteran or the detective at the same time.

Until then, ##Unvote: Sinensis because

On February 02 2012 12:59 Timeaisis wrote:
Well, I mean I want to hear from everyone before I vote. That's all.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#394
EBWOP: Bluelightz is one vote from lynch, and we still have 16 hours of discussion left.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 06 2012 11:59 GMT
#395
@ET

Right now my list looks like this

EchelonTee
TheToast
Nisani201
Sinensis
mderg
[UoN]Sentinel
BaronFel
prplhz

Explained Below:


Null - mderg, Sinensis :

~mderg's filter doesnt consist of much, I can't really conclude red or green on him.Though, he easily could be town or scum, can't be sure.



~Sinensis, he has been posting maybe 3 pages of 1-liners, and here's a compilation of some/most of them)

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 04 2012 07:49 Sinensis wrote:
And I'd only switch if we can't, for some reason, get a majority on Sentinel.

On February 04 2012 07:49 Sinensis wrote:
And I'd only switch if we can't, for some reason, get a majority on Sentinel.

On February 04 2012 10:36 Sinensis wrote:
You guys are about to kill a townie just because prplhz said "Well it's obviously Sentinel or Timeaisis"

This is so obvious.

On February 04 2012 10:40 Sinensis wrote:
Imbeciles.

On February 04 2012 11:25 Sinensis wrote:
No one asked you scum.

On February 04 2012 08:03 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Okay, what do you think about my refutation of your argument that Timeaisis isn't scum because GMarshal wouldn't put first gamers on the scum team?

Maybe this will work, even though I doubt it ...

Are the teams balanced or are they RNG'd?


I agree with that refutation, that game you posted wasn't even that long ago.

On February 04 2012 11:29 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 11:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On February 04 2012 11:25 Sinensis wrote:
No one asked you scum.


That's not very nice!


You, prplhz, and Bluelightz are dead once Time turns town.

On February 04 2012 11:31 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 11:30 sinani206 wrote:
Timeaisis bandwagon was way too fast-forming to be legitimate.
##Unvote: [UoN]Sentinel
##Vote: Bluelightz


You need to bold that. I made the same mistake.

On February 04 2012 11:32 Sinensis wrote:
Sorry Deadline is just CLOSE and people need to WAKE UP

On February 04 2012 11:35 Sinensis wrote:
Bet you're happy we don't have active players, aren't you scum?

On February 04 2012 11:42 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 11:40 prplhz wrote:
sinani206:

Has vote on [UoN]Sentinel
Makes a shallow observation of arguable correctness indicating that Timeaisis might be innocent
Proceeds to vote Bluelightz
Never provides arguments or comments on cases


When your motives are self preservation as a town member, arguments or comments on cases are pretty intuitive.

On February 04 2012 12:14 Sinensis wrote:
Looks like my primary suspects haven't changed.

On February 05 2012 13:46 Sinensis wrote:
I meant to reply right away, but I need to go afk for hours... sorry about this. I will try to get back with what Sentinel just said.

On February 05 2012 13:53 Sinensis wrote:
Sentinel, my feelings aren't hurt. It's actually fine bro.

On February 05 2012 14:02 Sinensis wrote:
You are number 3 suspect for scum of mine and I would think many people's list. Even if you're not scum, doesn't mean killing you wouldn't tell a lot.

On February 05 2012 14:13 Sinensis wrote:
Because holding out on it is going to help us, right?

On February 05 2012 14:16 Sinensis wrote:
In the words of my comrade Timeaisis who you helped execute, "Good to know."



His voting, he never ever,ever has made a proper case on anyone he votes, example

On February 06 2012 05:06 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 03:24 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2012 02:55 Sinensis wrote:
If someone can explain to me why prplhz is confirmed town without evidencing that he was the one who shot sinani206 I'll change my vote to Bluelightz. I don't see it though.

No one counterclaimed.


Hmm... that's a pretty good point. Since the 1 shot is used, it is beneficial to reveal. I see now.

##Unvote: prplhz

I said in my post before I would switch if someone could convince me, mderg, convinced me.

##Vote: Bluelightz


he say's mderg convinvnce me, but then he just straight up votes me.





Townies:

prplhz - His vigi claim makes me believe he's town

all others - Due to their posting makes me think they are town




##Vote: Sinensis

Reasons'above
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 06 2012 11:59 GMT
#396
Also, will make my thoughts on the people that are voting me later.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 06 2012 12:41 GMT
#397
Alright Bluelightz, first you say BaronFel is the obvious choice. BaronFel hasn't even responded to that accusation in the time it's taken you to make these two lists, one after the other:

EchelonTee
TheToast
Nisani201
Sinensis
mderg
[UoN]Sentinel
BaronFel
prplhz

EchelonTee
TheToast
Nisani201
Sinensis
mderg
[UoN]Sentinel
BaronFel
prplhz

First I'm good and BaronFel is bad, now you switched it? That aside... these lists are completely different? This is exactly why people are voting for you.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 06 2012 12:44 GMT
#398
EBWOP: Wait... it was more like first you thought BaronFel was scum, THEN you made a list where BaronFel and me are town (?), THEN you made a list were only BarenFel is town and now I'm scum because I post too many one liners.

Help me understand what happened?
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
February 06 2012 12:48 GMT
#399
Okay,

As of BaronFel's last post I think he's town

You know that contrbuting as little stuff as possible to town is scummy amiright?
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 06 2012 13:04 GMT
#400
This post:

On February 05 2012 14:52 BaronFel wrote:
Sorry for lurking bluelightz, I was really busy today I'll try to post more.

If you want my opinion, I was looking at prplhz after the time vote, but he was pretty logical and caught on to sinani so I have no real reason not to believe he isn't the vig.

I don't have a real big opinion on you, and it seems you don't either if you're just accusing me of lurking

Senensis as I said in day 1 seems to just be hampering the town and I really don't think he'll ever really try to help us find the rest of the scum...(I could overlook his day 1, but day 2 it's almost like he's trying to do this on purpose. If there was a joker in this game, I'd assume he was it xD)

##Vote: Sinensis


Convinced you he's town? After you accused him of lurking, sheeping, and hardly contributing. Was that post also the one that convinced you I was Chaos, by chance?
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