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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:00 GMT
#1381
I'd say we lynch Schworz today. He tries to get a blue killed claiming Two-Face.
Palmar looks like he never lied as well and really has a split personality as Two-Face. If for some reason Schworz lied and tries to kill blue roles but is Two-Face himself we lynch Palmar. easy shit
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 10:01 GMT
#1382
If there is still serious doubt later in the day cycle I will claim my name. It is a minor disadvantage to town because it gives the mafia some information I'd rather they not have but if this continues to be a major distraction then it's for the best.

The language I used was specific enough I think that I couldn't have picked it up off of Toades' own breadcrumbs. I thought you made up the immortality power actually as well as the Two-Face claim, it was the fact that you were still claiming to be immortal that made me realize who you were.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:01 GMT
#1383
On February 09 2012 18:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:55 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:51 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit?

what was going on yesterday. What do you think about the fact that a claimed DT is telling us a blue role of ours is in fact red?
Could you think of a plausible reason for a townie to tell us a blue is actually a red role?


Why do you think DrH is blue?


because he told me his role, he told me my role he told me part of my role pm, he told me part of his role pm, he claimed right.

Yeah I am inclined to believe in what docH says given that everything makes sense and he was DYING to know what I'm up to.


And does the fact that you know his role explicitly make him town? IE: do you know his role-name or something? Because I don't want to get stuck in another xlviii situation "he claimed his role correctly, so he cannot be scum".


yeah I am aware that it looks like the xlviii situation all over again and I am aware that you probably are afraid that I might be pulling the same thing I did when defending annul. However I am not
Yes I know his EXACT role name. Yes he is townie. I take it you really are Two-face?


I'm not Two-Face.

are you "One-Face" ?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 09 2012 10:02 GMT
#1384
On February 09 2012 18:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:51 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit?

what was going on yesterday. What do you think about the fact that a claimed DT is telling us a blue role of ours is in fact red?
Could you think of a plausible reason for a townie to tell us a blue is actually a red role?


Why do you think DrH is blue?


because he told me his role, he told me my role he told me part of my role pm, he told me part of his role pm, he claimed right.

Yeah I am inclined to believe in what docH says given that everything makes sense and he was DYING to know what I'm up to.


And does the fact that you know his role explicitly make him town? IE: do you know his role-name or something? Because I don't want to get stuck in another xlviii situation "he claimed his role correctly, so he cannot be scum".


yeah I am aware that it looks like the xlviii situation all over again and I am aware that you probably are afraid that I might be pulling the same thing I did when defending annul. However I am not
Yes I know his EXACT role name. Yes he is townie. I take it you really are Two-face?


This one is on you Toad, but I guess I have a good enough town read on you to trust you. This means you better know what the fuck you're doing.

rgTheSword did not claim anything but "guilty". I thought almost all TL Detectives always received both the role and the alignment? Usually they're called Cops if they don't.
Computer says mafia
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 10:02 GMT
#1385
On February 09 2012 18:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:52 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:44 ico wrote:
#Vote Palmar

Either him or Jackal were lying about the Phoneqt. It was confirmed to exist by BC, and Jackal turned up as exactly what he claimed yesterday.
That leaves Palmar, who by his actions further confused and irritated everyone* instead of helping to clear them up.


*me. And slardar basically got killed because of this phone crap.

You're misunderstanding. Palmar first lied saying he wasn't part of the phone network when really he had been posting in it for a long time and was invited by Radfield on the first day. Then he lied about being Two-Face and being in a mason group with Toadesstern then retracted his claim when rG claimed.


I was invited by Jackal I think? I just got a link in a PM.

You had been posting it in for a pretty long time.

Why did you do this:

On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.

He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)

So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim.


I didn't mean "I just recenetly got a link in PM."
I meant "I simply got a link in a PM."

And yes, I've been posting in it since yesterday.

In addition, I have no idea what you're talking about. I have never claimed two face.

Is there something preventing you from acknowledging your own posts? Like a rule mechanic?

You do have a propensity for trolling. But considering the scenario unless you are being blocked from addressing it somehow I don't see why a town player would refuse to explain his own blatant lies.
RIP Aaliyah
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 10:04 GMT
#1386
On February 09 2012 19:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If there is still serious doubt later in the day cycle I will claim my name. It is a minor disadvantage to town because it gives the mafia some information I'd rather they not have but if this continues to be a major distraction then it's for the best.

The language I used was specific enough I think that I couldn't have picked it up off of Toades' own breadcrumbs. I thought you made up the immortality power actually as well as the Two-Face claim, it was the fact that you were still claiming to be immortal that made me realize who you were.


So this is not some unclever scumplan having you and Toad shitting all over this thread trying to confusing us with stuff the we have no chance in verifying and little reason to belive in?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:05 GMT
#1387
On February 09 2012 19:02 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:55 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:51 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit?

what was going on yesterday. What do you think about the fact that a claimed DT is telling us a blue role of ours is in fact red?
Could you think of a plausible reason for a townie to tell us a blue is actually a red role?


Why do you think DrH is blue?


because he told me his role, he told me my role he told me part of my role pm, he told me part of his role pm, he claimed right.

Yeah I am inclined to believe in what docH says given that everything makes sense and he was DYING to know what I'm up to.


And does the fact that you know his role explicitly make him town? IE: do you know his role-name or something? Because I don't want to get stuck in another xlviii situation "he claimed his role correctly, so he cannot be scum".


yeah I am aware that it looks like the xlviii situation all over again and I am aware that you probably are afraid that I might be pulling the same thing I did when defending annul. However I am not
Yes I know his EXACT role name. Yes he is townie. I take it you really are Two-face?


This one is on you Toad, but I guess I have a good enough town read on you to trust you. This means you better know what the fuck you're doing.

rgTheSword did not claim anything but "guilty". I thought almost all TL Detectives always received both the role and the alignment? Usually they're called Cops if they don't.

your first paragraph doesn't matter. What Schworz claims to be is simply not possible.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 09 2012 10:06 GMT
#1388
I can't explain things I don't do DrH. I can't explain why Radfield is so scummy, or why VisceraEyes doesn't give a shit about the game, or why Hiro is hiding like a girl.
Computer says mafia
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:06 GMT
#1389
DocH claiming Two-Face wouldn't be that far fatched either, would it?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 10:08 GMT
#1390
On February 09 2012 19:04 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If there is still serious doubt later in the day cycle I will claim my name. It is a minor disadvantage to town because it gives the mafia some information I'd rather they not have but if this continues to be a major distraction then it's for the best.

The language I used was specific enough I think that I couldn't have picked it up off of Toades' own breadcrumbs. I thought you made up the immortality power actually as well as the Two-Face claim, it was the fact that you were still claiming to be immortal that made me realize who you were.


So this is not some unclever scumplan having you and Toad shitting all over this thread trying to confusing us with stuff the we have no chance in verifying and little reason to belive in?


Like I said, I'll name claim if it continues to be an issue with everybody thus opening myself up to the possibility of a counterclaim.

I'm going to drop this issue for now (mafia made it a huge fucking distraction when I basically confirmed my role in Insane Mafia I) and make a case on Radfield and catch up on the huge chunk of the game I missed earlier.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:08 GMT
#1391
On February 09 2012 19:04 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If there is still serious doubt later in the day cycle I will claim my name. It is a minor disadvantage to town because it gives the mafia some information I'd rather they not have but if this continues to be a major distraction then it's for the best.

The language I used was specific enough I think that I couldn't have picked it up off of Toades' own breadcrumbs. I thought you made up the immortality power actually as well as the Two-Face claim, it was the fact that you were still claiming to be immortal that made me realize who you were.


So this is not some unclever scumplan having you and Toad shitting all over this thread trying to confusing us with stuff the we have no chance in verifying and little reason to belive in?


trust me. Worst case scenario: I am mafia alongside with DocH and we sacrifice the two of us to get Two-Face lynched. The moment he flips we're both dead. Doesn't sound that scary.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 10:09 GMT
#1392
On February 09 2012 18:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:39 Tunkeg wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:08 Adam4167 wrote:
I also spotted another Blueslip out of DrH earlier:

On February 09 2012 16:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He's not really in danger though so even if he was scum I don't see why he'd lie. There is a rule against saying the hidden part of your role directly until after it is resolved so he might not be allowed to tell anything beyond "I'm a DT".

BC says it's fine to make up fake powers though.


Unless he heard it in the phone-booth of manloving.


I am far more suspicious of rGtheSchworz at this point, as every description in the OP that includes a DT or being DT'd seems to heavily indicate that it will be a role-reveal, not alignment reveal.

Answers will come in 6 hours, otherwise, start taking his neck measurements.


If scum got a few of these roledescription of the blues he would know to. Hell, scum themself probably got some hidden part of their role, and he could have picked it up there. So it could be a blueslip, a scumslip, a third party slip or a vanilla townie invited to the QT slip.


wtf LOGIC?

gtfo noob you're not supposed to use logic in here


I have been using logic from day 1, the Joker Claim. Thanks for noticing, I now have a crush on you <3<3<3<3<3

My trolling have not been up to par, I will admit this, and I apologize for it with this:

+ Show Spoiler +





Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:18 GMT
#1393
Ok I thought about it and here's every possibility of Schworz I could think of:

His role has a phrase along the lines
You are sane, you get right results but you're a dick. You have to use your power every night, you have to claim what you found out that night in the thread and that claim has to be the opposite of what you found out

That's literally everything I could think of and if that's the case I'm going to punch BC after this game. If he's insane he'd know it himself. If he's a rolecop he'd know his blue role and not guilty which isn't making sense either.
+ Show Spoiler +
You know I once played poker with my friends and someone had a bad pokerface, everyone knew he got shit and someone said "oh come on, don't be sad just because you got 47". The guy gave him the weirdest look ever and yelled at him "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU, STOP LOOKING IN MY CARS".
Essence of this story: Most hilarious story ever, he completly guessed out of the blue. If I did that right now calling Schworz's secret power I wouldn't punch BC, I'd be rolling on the floor laughing. Honestly
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
incifan
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
February 09 2012 10:20 GMT
#1394
On February 08 2012 11:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

As for claiming. You may name claim/which role it goes with. Basically, if the information is in the OP you may claim that information. If you have a role that is slightly modified than the norm you may not claim that. If you have a role that was modified but its power is something that directly impacts the game it may be discussed/claimed after use but not before.



Emphasis on the last two sentences. Why aren't DoctorHelveticus and Toadesstern modkilled?
They are making shit up. Which leaves us with both being liars.


Who else does this apply to?
rgTheSchworz? need to reread his claims
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:22 GMT
#1395
We haven't claimed a thing yet.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 10:24 GMT
#1396
and he is allowed to claim his name. If I confidently claim him to be the exact same role (name) that'd be funny wouldn't it?
Yet noone claimed a secret power of our roles :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 10:24 GMT
#1397
On February 09 2012 19:20 ico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 11:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

As for claiming. You may name claim/which role it goes with. Basically, if the information is in the OP you may claim that information. If you have a role that is slightly modified than the norm you may not claim that. If you have a role that was modified but its power is something that directly impacts the game it may be discussed/claimed after use but not before.



Emphasis on the last two sentences. Why aren't DoctorHelveticus and Toadesstern modkilled?
They are making shit up. Which leaves us with both being liars.


Who else does this apply to?
rgTheSchworz? need to reread his claims

I asked BC. He said I can indirectly refer to my hidden power. I can breadcrumb it but I can't outright say what it is and what it does unless it is used. I won't quote BC exactly in case that's against the rules, if he allows me to I will.

This is what I said.

"If a player claims ROLE, for example, am I allowed to indirectly poke to see if they know about ROLE? This would be the easiest way for me to discern a fake claim from a real one." He said that's fine.

So I can:
Claim what my name is
Breadcrumb my role PM

I can not:
Say exactly or directly what my "Secondary" power is.

With BC's permission I'll use his exact wording on the matter, or he can just come in and clear this up himself.
RIP Aaliyah
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 09 2012 10:25 GMT
#1398
This thing makes no sense.

I need to read a lot.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 09 2012 10:27 GMT
#1399
because he told me his role, he told me my role he told me part of my role pm, he told me part of his role pm, he claimed right.


11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.


If you guys are telling the truth, shouldn't you be modkilled by now?

Also, rg's claim doesn't hold up either, because he only claimed alignment, not role.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 09 2012 10:28 GMT
#1400
@Bugs, what do you think of Radfield, what do you think of me, and what do you think of this whole mess with toad and drh and rgts?
Computer says mafia
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