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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 08:54 GMT
#1321
stop giving Schworz excuses. I want him to get his ass in this thread and explain what the fuck is going on and why he is lying to us.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 08:56 GMT
#1322
On February 09 2012 17:51 Tunkeg wrote:
DrH, what role did you claim? And where?

None and it will remain that way unless it is absolutely necessary to avoid being lynched. I know what role Toadesstern has. He isn't lying about being immortal.
RIP Aaliyah
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 08:57 GMT
#1323
On February 09 2012 17:53 Toadesstern wrote:
he claimed nothing and won't claim. now. stop fishing.


He said he was blue, thats a claim. Halfass claims sucks.

You also say:

On February 09 2012 17:53 Toadesstern wrote:
btw here's what DocH posted earlier when I claimed Two-Face:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 19:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Ok, good. I'm not sure you should have claimed this early though. You could have drawn mafia bullets into you if you were immortal by claiming a different role or not admitting that you are invincible and now you might get RB'd all game and just be useless. What are you going for, town cred?

I do believe you though, your power seems plausible from what I know. It seems like everybody has a second aspect to their role that is hidden.

He KNOWS, that some powers have a second aspect to it, therefore he believes my claim. I still think he just understood what I was doing from the very beginning because I lied as little as possible and got a shitload of breadcrumbs in my fakeclaim to make sure the guy who knows my role is knowing what I'm doing. Apparently that guy is DocH.



Well, scum might have gotten a couple or all roles description, so him knowing might as well mean he is scum. Or it could mean absolutely nothing, just a lucky guess from him.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 08:59 GMT
#1324
On February 09 2012 17:54 Toadesstern wrote:
stop giving Schworz excuses. I want him to get his ass in this thread and explain what the fuck is going on and why he is lying to us.


I am not giving anyone any excuses. Best case scenario one is lying and one of them is either scum or third party and will be offed. Worst case scenario both are telling the truth causing us to do two misslynch.

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 09:02 GMT
#1325
Revealing the category of my power role would put me and the town at a disadvantage so I won't do it. Like I said, if it's necessary to avoid getting lynched then that's fine. Otherwise it's best for medics to protect me, which will keep both myself and Toades alive indefinitely.

I was going to make my case on both you and Radfield today, but I'd like to wait for rG to explain himself a little. If he doesn't claim insanity then either he is scum or BC is a bastard mod. I'm willing to take my chances on the former. It's a crazy situation but that doesn't matter, an outright lie like that is about the scummiest thing you can do. Considering the mafias hit on me failed they might just want me lynched.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 09:03 GMT
#1326
On February 09 2012 17:57 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:53 Toadesstern wrote:
he claimed nothing and won't claim. now. stop fishing.


He said he was blue, thats a claim. Halfass claims sucks.

You also say:

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:53 Toadesstern wrote:
btw here's what DocH posted earlier when I claimed Two-Face:
On February 08 2012 19:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Ok, good. I'm not sure you should have claimed this early though. You could have drawn mafia bullets into you if you were immortal by claiming a different role or not admitting that you are invincible and now you might get RB'd all game and just be useless. What are you going for, town cred?

I do believe you though, your power seems plausible from what I know. It seems like everybody has a second aspect to their role that is hidden.

He KNOWS, that some powers have a second aspect to it, therefore he believes my claim. I still think he just understood what I was doing from the very beginning because I lied as little as possible and got a shitload of breadcrumbs in my fakeclaim to make sure the guy who knows my role is knowing what I'm doing. Apparently that guy is DocH.



Well, scum might have gotten a couple or all roles description, so him knowing might as well mean he is scum. Or it could mean absolutely nothing, just a lucky guess from him.


that's why I said I'm 99% sure he's not lying. I breadcrumbed earlier and I quoted that recently. Maybe he picked that up as mafia and figured I am actually not bullshitting about anything I said so far. Maybe he's Blastoise from Pokemon with super awesome special powers to hide in his shells for all I know. But certainly given what he said the possibility to be just right in the first place sounds way more plausible to me. If anything he could claim a name later on if needed. I could tell you if it's the right now.
Catching up what I said as a mafia himself is also pretty far fetched given my seemingless bullshitty claim as well. Look at what Jackal posted, he claimed fucking Santa Claus. That got to tell you how much people were reading into my claim. Still he got what I was talking about ALL THE TIME (unlike palmar) and posted the right answers all the time. Although I do not like his
*winkwink* if you know what I mean *winkwink* *ehehehehe*
style of doing it. I'm not retarded.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 09 2012 09:07 GMT
#1327
On February 09 2012 17:36 Toadesstern wrote:
also I'm a VT from now on. As mentioned I used my shot on Kenpachi.



If you are a VT from now on, would you mind sharing the details of your role ? I mean, you are not 2 face, and you dont have any power anymore. You can as well share with us what you were. Beleiving DocH is 99% town doesnt help if you cant convince us. I'm not asking you to out the role of DocH obv.


Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 09 2012 09:08 GMT
#1328
I also spotted another Blueslip out of DrH earlier:

On February 09 2012 16:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He's not really in danger though so even if he was scum I don't see why he'd lie. There is a rule against saying the hidden part of your role directly until after it is resolved so he might not be allowed to tell anything beyond "I'm a DT".

BC says it's fine to make up fake powers though.


Unless he heard it in the phone-booth of manloving.


I am far more suspicious of rGtheSchworz at this point, as every description in the OP that includes a DT or being DT'd seems to heavily indicate that it will be a role-reveal, not alignment reveal.

Answers will come in 6 hours, otherwise, start taking his neck measurements.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 09:08 GMT
#1329
On February 09 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:54 Toadesstern wrote:
stop giving Schworz excuses. I want him to get his ass in this thread and explain what the fuck is going on and why he is lying to us.


I am not giving anyone any excuses. Best case scenario one is lying and one of them is either scum or third party and will be offed. Worst case scenario both are telling the truth causing us to do two misslynch.


Please explain to me how that would work? It's impossible that both me and rG are telling the truth unless he is insane.

I ask BC "Is there any possibility that our role PMs are not completely true? Can somebody get a result other than "ROLE" by DT checking me?" and he says No. I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case. Meaning if rGTheSchworz has any chances of getting an unreliable check, he would know about it.

So all that's left to figure out is if rG is insane or BC is withholding some other information from me. If he is sane then one of us is a liar.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 09:10 GMT
#1330
On February 09 2012 18:07 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:36 Toadesstern wrote:
also I'm a VT from now on. As mentioned I used my shot on Kenpachi.



If you are a VT from now on, would you mind sharing the details of your role ? I mean, you are not 2 face, and you dont have any power anymore. You can as well share with us what you were. Beleiving DocH is 99% town doesnt help if you cant convince us. I'm not asking you to out the role of DocH obv.



no I won't. I already claimed that I shot Kenpachi and that I got only 1 bullet. I don't want to give Batman any hints and tell him if he has to shoot me or not. I'd much rather see him DT me first and decide wether I'm a target or not.
Especially given what Radfield keeps on saying about "joker is confirmed in our QT" I don't feel like outing my name or role is a good talent toi have.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 09:13 GMT
#1331
also it's not really that hard to figure out what's going on given what docH said all the time. I'm just waiting for the first VET to step in and tell exactly what the situation is... (vet = every vet but wbg, because he's tunneling again and think's I'm catwoman. This guy thinks I'm mafia ALL THE TIME)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 09:14 GMT
#1332
On February 09 2012 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Revealing the category of my power role would put me and the town at a disadvantage so I won't do it. Like I said, if it's necessary to avoid getting lynched then that's fine. Otherwise it's best for medics to protect me, which will keep both myself and Toades alive indefinitely.

I was going to make my case on both you and Radfield today, but I'd like to wait for rG to explain himself a little. If he doesn't claim insanity then either he is scum or BC is a bastard mod. I'm willing to take my chances on the former. It's a crazy situation but that doesn't matter, an outright lie like that is about the scummiest thing you can do. Considering the mafias hit on me failed they might just want me lynched.


Feel free to write a case on me. I am not getting lynched today, thats 100 % certain. Hiro have also promised a case on me.

Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 09:17 GMT
#1333
On February 09 2012 18:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote:
On February 09 2012 17:54 Toadesstern wrote:
stop giving Schworz excuses. I want him to get his ass in this thread and explain what the fuck is going on and why he is lying to us.


I am not giving anyone any excuses. Best case scenario one is lying and one of them is either scum or third party and will be offed. Worst case scenario both are telling the truth causing us to do two misslynch.


Please explain to me how that would work? It's impossible that both me and rG are telling the truth unless he is insane.

I ask BC "Is there any possibility that our role PMs are not completely true? Can somebody get a result other than "ROLE" by DT checking me?" and he says No. I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case. Meaning if rGTheSchworz has any chances of getting an unreliable check, he would know about it.

So all that's left to figure out is if rG is insane or BC is withholding some other information from me. If he is sane then one of us is a liar.


Insane inmates
You are a insane beyond belief. As such you killed a tyger security guard and decided to wear his clothes. Basically, any Detective checks on you will mark you as a Tyger Security Guard . As you are now donned in the security guards uniform, you subject other inmates to the same punishments the guards gave to you. You win with the inmates even though you hate them. You also don't realize just how insane you are and as such think you are a regular inmate.


That is why. Is there anything that says that you can't be Blue (as you claim) and insane inmate at the same time?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2012 09:19 GMT
#1334
"think you are a regular inmate."

Insane Inmate is just a miller bro.
RIP Aaliyah
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 09 2012 09:22 GMT
#1335
On February 09 2012 18:10 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:07 Tyrran wrote:
On February 09 2012 17:36 Toadesstern wrote:
also I'm a VT from now on. As mentioned I used my shot on Kenpachi.



If you are a VT from now on, would you mind sharing the details of your role ? I mean, you are not 2 face, and you dont have any power anymore. You can as well share with us what you were. Beleiving DocH is 99% town doesnt help if you cant convince us. I'm not asking you to out the role of DocH obv.



no I won't. I already claimed that I shot Kenpachi and that I got only 1 bullet. I don't want to give Batman any hints and tell him if he has to shoot me or not. I'd much rather see him DT me first and decide wether I'm a target or not.
Especially given what Radfield keeps on saying about "joker is confirmed in our QT" I don't feel like outing my name or role is a good talent toi have.


The problem is that you did not tell us beforehand who you where going to shoot. So we have strictly no rason to beleive it was you and not mafia/another vig that shot Kenpachi. AS for now , it seems that we will have to decide between lynching you/DocH or rgTheSchwortz

Also, what do you think of plamar ? Do you have any idea why he also fake claimed two face ?

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 09 2012 09:22 GMT
#1336
On February 09 2012 18:14 Tunkeg wrote:

Feel free to write a case on me. I am not getting lynched today, thats 100 % certain. Hiro have also promised a case on me.



What makes you 100% certain of this?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 09:24 GMT
#1337
vote Schworz, force him to explain the shit he is doing. There is no other possibility than one of those 2 lying. Not a single one.

Also remember that EVERYONE was telling Schworz his move yesterday was retarded. I was trying to catch some bullets and maybe make catwoman DT me instead.
There was not a single reason why he should have claimed as Two-face. Just imagine you're a blue role that's only once in this game and about 8 players in this game (mafia + Catwoman) need to kill you outright.
You think the real Two-face would step in and Counterclaim? Hell no he'd be sitting in his chair, laughing being happy and shutting the fuck up. So what he did was retarded if he really is Two-Face.

What if it was not retarded? What if he is Catwoman and was calling bullshit on the duel-claim Palmar did? What if he was trying to get the liar to figure out which of actually is Two-Face and didn't think both of us are lying?
Remember that everyone told him that his first claim (DT) was bullshit as well because now Catwoman would simply shoot him in the dark? Yes it wasn't the brightest move either. However, as Catwoman it makes perfect sense because he's not afraid to be shot by Catwoman if he's that role himself.

Unless Schworz stepps in this thread and gives the best explanation ever this guy has to die right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 09:25 GMT
#1338
On February 09 2012 18:22 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:14 Tunkeg wrote:

Feel free to write a case on me. I am not getting lynched today, thats 100 % certain. Hiro have also promised a case on me.



What makes you 100% certain of this?


Many reasons. I will not explain.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 09 2012 09:28 GMT
#1339
On February 09 2012 18:24 Toadesstern wrote:
vote Schworz, force him to explain the shit he is doing. There is no other possibility than one of those 2 lying. Not a single one.

Also remember that EVERYONE was telling Schworz his move yesterday was retarded. I was trying to catch some bullets and maybe make catwoman DT me instead.
There was not a single reason why he should have claimed as Two-face. Just imagine you're a blue role that's only once in this game and about 8 players in this game (mafia + Catwoman) need to kill you outright.
You think the real Two-face would step in and Counterclaim? Hell no he'd be sitting in his chair, laughing being happy and shutting the fuck up. So what he did was retarded if he really is Two-Face.

What if it was not retarded? What if he is Catwoman and was calling bullshit on the duel-claim Palmar did? What if he was trying to get the liar to figure out which of actually is Two-Face and didn't think both of us are lying?
Remember that everyone told him that his first claim (DT) was bullshit as well because now Catwoman would simply shoot him in the dark? Yes it wasn't the brightest move either. However, as Catwoman it makes perfect sense because he's not afraid to be shot by Catwoman if he's that role himself.

Unless Schworz stepps in this thread and gives the best explanation ever this guy has to die right now.


I find it very amusing that you of all want rgTS to come in and explain himself, knowing that was him that pushed you off your Two-Face claim. You are as of now the only confirmed liar in this thread, maybe we should just lynch you.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 09 2012 09:28 GMT
#1340
On February 09 2012 18:22 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:10 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:07 Tyrran wrote:
On February 09 2012 17:36 Toadesstern wrote:
also I'm a VT from now on. As mentioned I used my shot on Kenpachi.



If you are a VT from now on, would you mind sharing the details of your role ? I mean, you are not 2 face, and you dont have any power anymore. You can as well share with us what you were. Beleiving DocH is 99% town doesnt help if you cant convince us. I'm not asking you to out the role of DocH obv.



no I won't. I already claimed that I shot Kenpachi and that I got only 1 bullet. I don't want to give Batman any hints and tell him if he has to shoot me or not. I'd much rather see him DT me first and decide wether I'm a target or not.
Especially given what Radfield keeps on saying about "joker is confirmed in our QT" I don't feel like outing my name or role is a good talent toi have.


The problem is that you did not tell us beforehand who you where going to shoot. So we have strictly no rason to beleive it was you and not mafia/another vig that shot Kenpachi. AS for now , it seems that we will have to decide between lynching you/DocH or rgTheSchwortz

Also, what do you think of plamar ? Do you have any idea why he also fake claimed two face ?



I would have told you beforehand if Schworz didn't ruin everything. I had a post along the lines "screw it guys, you really thought I'm going to chose DT powers if I got Vig powers as well? I've chose Vig and shot Kenpachi" set up but wasn't able to do post it because of what happened.
I thought shutting up would be the best idea and did not want to claim my shot at all. Apparently DocH thinks it's a good idea to make me claim so whatever.

I can prove what's going on and so can DocH but I'd much rather see him lynched without telling everything I know and I'd much rather wait for his explanation before I shoot out every bit of information I got. I'm sure you'll understand that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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