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rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 07 2012 19:29 GMT
#641
Due to the huge amount on votes on me I have decided I'll probably claim after I am done eating.
Well done, bad townies and scum. You have driven me nuts with your pointless accusations.
If it will get me lynched at least you'll have more info than is available and can be obtained through the people you want dead now.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
February 07 2012 19:30 GMT
#642
Everyone should ignore Bill until he starts making sense. Anyone doing otherwise at this time is very bad for town atmosphere.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 19:34 GMT
#643
On February 08 2012 04:30 hiro protagonist wrote:
Everyone should ignore Bill until he starts making sense. Anyone doing otherwise at this time is very bad for town atmosphere.


hey there hiro. Where have you been all day?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 07 2012 19:36 GMT
#644
On February 08 2012 04:25 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:23 Bill Murray wrote:
On February 08 2012 04:17 Adam4167 wrote:
@BM

You may have buddied the shit out of me in TL50, but it was the buddying that alerted me to your bullshit early on in the piece. If it weren't for your bodyguards, I was vig'ing you out of that game N1.

You make it out like me voting for jaybrundage is so scummy because "ZOMG he hasn't posted yet!". This might actually mean something if I hadn't declared I was voting for someone who hadn't posted yet when I placed the vote.

I am not going to cast a serious vote with my first post of the game. I wanted reactions from the people I questioned and then I would vote based on the additional information (ie their responses).

You're claiming meta of me after one game which I half-played and three posts in this game? Come on.

Your 'case' involves repeating the same 2 things over and over, and is crap as a result.



I like how Ico sheeps your (bad) case BM, then says you're on drugs in the same post. Stinks of scum.

##Vote: Ico

ok, so you'd rather waste your vote on someone potentially modkilled, for instance if you end up not being able to log back on due to relationship issues (im assuming you have a relationship), and cant make more than one post, versus having it on someone you have decent, if not solid, reasoning on? I'm not buying it.

I also am not buying the fact that you didn't time this post perfectly
It is a delayed OMGUS on ico

Isn't it a bit weak to attack timing from a person who hasn't been all that active?

it's just funny that ico unvoted him 10 minutes ago
who's to say he isn't active in his mafia quicktime?

On February 08 2012 04:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh and BM sry for calling it stupid as well. I'm getting carried away with all those insults. So if you really got it as an insult I'm sorry about that and will stop it.
I just don't know if I'm believing a word you say so rephrase "stupid" with "weird" or "bullshit" (bullshit in like you're making it up).

Will try to keep the insults on wbg only from now on.

It's alright, man. I don't mind my ideas being called stupid, as long as it's not a personal attack, because that makes me want to backlash (and i can't afford that, nor do i want that, on the internet)

I understand what you're saying. you don't know if you can trust me. The thing is, I don't know if i can trust any of you all, either. I am always pushing people claiming to me in PM (we dont have PMs this game) as a blue, and that's essentially what i'm doing here

look at haunted mafia, where i was modkilled for aggressively posting just like this as a mad hatter
look at my first game of mafia ever where i was a detective and claimed to 3 people in pm d1
look at this game where i could have claimed in the neighborizer, but i chose to out that id rather claim here, before claiming the neighborizer exists whatsoever


we have 5-7 vig shots, plus batman wanting hugo dead, PLUS our lynches
if we massclaim and reduce the scum to the wiggle room of either making it a one person vs one person lynch on "no i'm the riddler" "no you're not, i am!", or claiming townie, then that's great for town, and we can organize our blues freely, right in their faces.

One thing people don't realize about teamliquid is there are too many powerroles in a game, and it is unfairly balanced for the town because of all the modkills that occur (whether we want to admit it or not)

i am merely wanting to abuse the fact that we are on tier 3 tech before them

On February 08 2012 04:30 hiro protagonist wrote:
Everyone should ignore Bill until he starts making sense. Anyone doing otherwise at this time is very bad for town atmosphere.

ok? why?
you're also contradicting yourself, and being hypocritical. Am I not the only name you spoke of, here?
I am not seeing your protown play that I saw from you as a detective in L, why not?
nervous?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 07 2012 19:39 GMT
#645
If we have 16 blues claiming


We don't know how many blues there are though...

Note:
Some names appear under 2 categories. These players will have to decide to be one or the other for their role. They are not both. Some roles might also have slight alterations to the "standard" although nothing game breaking. Not all names listed are guarenteed to be in this game, however only names listed will be in this game. Each role, much like Asylum, will have unique flavour text to make the gf style roles have more fun with the game. See Arkham Asylum for flavour text examples that I used for when you submit your role choice.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
incifan
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
February 07 2012 19:40 GMT
#646
On February 08 2012 04:36 Bill Murray wrote:

it's just funny that ico unvoted him 10 minutes ago


It is especially "funny" because I never voted for him in the first place, and still don't.
I probably should have on page 14. But I missed that opportunity aswell.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 07 2012 19:49 GMT
#647
Oh, Ill be here. I just slept for the last 20 hours.

How is he in line for a mod-kill when hes already posted, and got his vote in?

How was that post "timed perfectly"? I wrote shit, I clicked post.


It is hardly a delayed OMGUS. Since hes called me out once, does that bar me from ever voting him for the rest of the game or be branded as an OMGUS'er?

He posts his 'reads', but are they really reads? he titles it 'lets discuss current votes' and then regurgitates what everyone has already said about the leading vote-getters.

Lets take a look at them shall we:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote:
@kitaman27 to be honest, I had to take a step back from the thread and figure out whether or not all the spam/trolling was normal for a game here.

Let's discuss current votes:

rgTheSchworz
: I do not think he is scum. His case against kenpachi is weak, which is weird considering how easy a vote for kp is to justify. Because of that, I give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him a townie who is in over his head.

Cyber_Cheese actually makes a decent vote, I'll repeat myself and say how scummy I find him being very active during a time he excused himself for prior. He is also fishing for the Joker. And he enabled DoctorSpamalot going on and on about batman, littering the thread. After his vote on RG gains some following he vanishes.

Adam4167: Already talked about him, by the time he posts there are options for real/pressure votes available, yet he elects to go with a "random" vote on someone who had not posted by that time.

He is in turn directly defended by DoctorSpamalot, which is weird. I really don't like how many pointless posts I had to read because of him. But dislike does not make a good case, so I can not vote for DoctorHelveticus at this time. Should he keep spamming I'll have to reconsider. I missed my opportunity to go after him 15 pages ago, which sucks.

Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt.

So for now:
##Vote Cyber_Cheese


@BM
: what are taking?
@Kitaman27: Why did you just write your vote down here and not in the actual vote thread?

Alright, back to catching up with the thread.


-He states that RGSchworz is probably not scum due to his case on Kenpachi being crap. RGSchowrz entire case revolved around Kenpachi's townie claim, something which Ico took offense to originally. How does this make his case crap then, if they share points of view?

-Cheese. Well i mean just look at it. He calls cheese scummy for declaring his inactivity, then when cheese actually DOES go inactive, he calls him out for 'vanishing'. This is making something out of nothing.

-His argument against me is 'ive already talked about it', then regurgitated what you said.

-He says DrH spams a lot, and if he 'should continue to spam, ill have to rethink him not being scum'. Its a nothing read, capped off with 'i missed my opportunity to go after him 15 pages ago, which sucks'. Its never too late to scum hunt, if you think there's anything there, follow it up.

-His line on sheth contradicts itself at the outset. 'I cant read his play, its scummy'. Well is it null ... or scummy? pick. Giving someone the benefit of the doubt after you've just called them 'scummy' is lazy.


There's hardly an original thought in here. All of his reads are lazy and or contradictory. He tries to highlight 'bad play' and label it as a 'threat to town', a scum tactic.

My vote stands.

Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 07 2012 19:50 GMT
#648
ah, i thought you did. you called him out for the same post i did.
risk.nuke called me a maniacal egocentric in the quicktopic, so im a bit flustered, and potentially modkilled as a power role, because it made me erase a message asking him to stop using ad hominem. I didn't want to get into discussion of it, and I was even going to delete the "fuck you" post, but you can't delete two posts previous in there...

if i don't get modkilled, I will probably be posting less than I have been, considering noone is biting on the "massclaim and simply win" strategy that we could easily employ

chaoser, I understand it might be ~12-15 and not 16, but there is no way it's under 10-12
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 07 2012 19:50 GMT
#649
Why is cyber cheese getting so many votes?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 07 2012 19:57 GMT
#650
I want everyone to answer these:
1) How were you introduced to mafia?
2) How would you describe your playstyle?
3) Are you better as mafia, or town?


RVS is overrated.
I personally prefer RQS, and having a questionnaire.

As such, I will initiate that:

I'll go first.
1) I first started here, on Teamliquid
2) I would say that I'm erratic, with unique and creative ideas
3) I am better at getting people to listen to me as mafia, but sometimes I am obvious. I would say I am better overall at being town, though, like this game, people rarely listen to me. I am actually a very good scumhunter, which is why I was kind of nervous when I got a power role.


@adam, on page 14 you voted for someone who, having not posted, was in line to be modkilled
in that post you had legit reasoning to vote kurumi
why would you vote for someone you had to have a null read on, unless he's your scumbuddy, when you may end up being stuck with that vote if you can't get back on before the deadline? (internet problems, family problems, zombie apocalypse)

wouldnt it be better to have a vote on someone you have reasoning on, regardless of when it occurs within the game?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 07 2012 20:08 GMT
#651
Are you seriously not trolling BM?
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 07 2012 20:08 GMT
#652
On February 08 2012 04:57 Bill Murray wrote:
I want everyone to answer these:
1) How were you introduced to mafia?
2) How would you describe your playstyle?
3) Are you better as mafia, or town?


RVS is overrated.
I personally prefer RQS, and having a questionnaire.

As such, I will initiate that:

I'll go first.
1) I first started here, on Teamliquid
2) I would say that I'm erratic, with unique and creative ideas
3) I am better at getting people to listen to me as mafia, but sometimes I am obvious. I would say I am better overall at being town, though, like this game, people rarely listen to me. I am actually a very good scumhunter, which is why I was kind of nervous when I got a power role.


@adam, on page 14 you voted for someone who, having not posted, was in line to be modkilled
in that post you had legit reasoning to vote kurumi
why would you vote for someone you had to have a null read on, unless he's your scumbuddy, when you may end up being stuck with that vote if you can't get back on before the deadline? (internet problems, family problems, zombie apocalypse)

wouldnt it be better to have a vote on someone you have reasoning on, regardless of when it occurs within the game?


Random questions like this could very easily allow Mafia to hollowly contribute to the (drowning) thread. Please do something relevant or spam your 'mason network' with this BS.

I'm really starting to get a red feel from BM because of shit like this. Can we just lynch it? Sheth has at least come back and this is destroying the town atmosphere.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:09 GMT
#653
did a little voting list as we don't have some standings in there. Yeah I know posting lists, especially voting lists is something people consider to be scummy because it's easy for scum to do but I really had issues to keep up with the votes and who has how many votes (I did that because rgTheSchworz said he's going to claim and wanted to know if he really has to) and it took me ages to get the standing. So I don't care what you think about it but I guess I'm not the only one having problems with that so I might as well just post it before someone else has to do the same work:
+ Show Spoiler [Click me!] +

Kenpachi (0): rgtTheSchworz, Bill Murray (missed the ## when unvoting)

rgTheSchworz (5): ]Cyber_Cheese, Kenpachi, Forumite, -_-Quailis, wherebugsgo, DoctorHelvetica, Chaoser

Jaybrundage (0/1): Adam4167, Jayjay54 (wrong unvote)

Tunkeg (0): DoctorHelvetica,

Slardar (0): Kurumi,

Visveraeyes (0): DoctorHelvetica, Tobberoth,

Kitaman27 (0): Visceraeyes,

-_-Quails (1): rgTheSchworz,

layabout (1): Visveraeyes, Tunkeg

Cyber_Cheese (6): layabout, Toadesstern, DoctorHelvetica, Slardar, Kurumi, ico

Toadesstern (1): wherebugsgo, risk.nuke,

Liquid'Sheth (4):
Katina, "Palmar" (wrong voting pattern), forumite, "Toadesstern" (forgot to unvote first), Visceraeyes,

Adam4167 (1): Bill Murray,

DoctorHelvetica (1): JayJay54,

Chaoser (1):
Tobberoth,

Ico (0/1): Adam4167 (did not unvoteJaybrundage),
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 07 2012 20:09 GMT
#654
why would i troll about wanting to learn about you all? do you not like meta, palmar?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 07 2012 20:12 GMT
#655
both the RG and the CC wagons are riddled with scum
im going to vote sheth on deductive reasoning, an itching feeling, and meta feel based upon his scum game
##unvote: adam
##vote: sheth
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:12 GMT
#656
On February 08 2012 04:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:30 hiro protagonist wrote:
Everyone should ignore Bill until he starts making sense. Anyone doing otherwise at this time is very bad for town atmosphere.


hey there hiro. Where have you been all day?


Also repeating myself to get an answer.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 07 2012 20:14 GMT
#657
Why clutter the thread with more noise at this stage?

Me and jay have a history of trying to get each other killed. So far i'm winning.

Last game I got my votes in, from another state, while at a funeral and drunk 95% of the time. I make it happen because I care. I was always coming back to change that vote on JB. Zombie Apocalypse or no.

If my case on Kurumi was so 'solid','decent' and 'legit', why not pick it up and run with it yourself? I still think he has a chance of flipping scum, but he also has good town play, as evident in TL50. It'll shine through in a day or two, or we hang him, pretty simple. Currently I'm focusing on someone who I see doing nil for town, while Kurumi proves his 'worth'.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 07 2012 20:17 GMT
#658
Not Random anymore.
I sense that I am about to be lynched, if not today maybe tomorrow.
Also the atmosphere is turnin mafia-favored rapidly. Votes flying left and right, dispersed votes makin it easy for scum to lynch town today.
Due to that, I am claiming:
I am a Detective
.Unless people insist that I claim my name, I won't do it due to obvious reasons :
I may or may not be Catwoman's target.
I have not had the chance to investigate yet.
I will probably be roleblocked.untill we can find the roleblocker.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 07 2012 20:19 GMT
#659
On February 08 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Not Random anymore.
I sense that I am about to be lynched, if not today maybe tomorrow.
Also the atmosphere is turnin mafia-favored rapidly. Votes flying left and right, dispersed votes makin it easy for scum to lynch town today.
Due to that, I am claiming:
I am a Detective
.Unless people insist that I claim my name, I won't do it due to obvious reasons :
I may or may not be Catwoman's target.
I have not had the chance to investigate yet.
I will probably be roleblocked.untill we can find the roleblocker.

you will probably be killed by catwoman because you claimed DT. The only reason not to kill you instantly as catwoman is the wifom you created because he might think that a DT is not going to claim DT.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 07 2012 20:21 GMT
#660
Sigh...
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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