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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#493
Of course it's good. Explain how it gives any info at all about his alignment when the guy does it in every single game regardless? He even does it in games that don't have vanilla townies.

Furthermore BC's disclaimer was not talking about traitors it was talking about characters who have more than one category as in Harley Quinn falling under both Medic and Vigilante if I'm not mistaken
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:12 GMT
#494
On February 07 2012 23:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 23:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Missed one because I CTRL+F 'radfield" and not 'rad'

you also mentioned you didn't like his picks on his list but never actually called him out beyond that. still, it's nothing.



that's because I'm not sure if he did that on purpose and I do not know what to make of it. He might be pulling a wbg on me and everyone else.
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 23:02 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.


yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.

Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is.
Remember No guts. No gory.

I don't like lynching vets d1. Said the same in L. Remember I was the guy telling everyone to not lynch Palmar? I ended up being a townie (a vet) as well. So it really is my opionion. And with rads most recent post I'd even say he's leaning town for me right now. He just posted so little that it's hard to judge.


I'm reading that game. It's a shame no one listened to you when you were right, but this isn't a 60 person game, you're gonna get heard. Don't use excuses to stay quiet any longer.

And what's the point of even saying anything? You never really accused Radfield of anything so why suck up and praise his towniness unless you're just trying to get town cred yourself
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:13 GMT
#496
On February 07 2012 23:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Of course it's not good. Explain how it gives any info at all about his alignment when the guy does it in every single game regardless? He even does it in games that don't have vanilla townies.

Furthermore BC's disclaimer was not talking about traitors it was talking about characters who have more than one category as in Harley Quinn falling under both Medic and Vigilante if I'm not mistaken

EBWOP, bolded part is edited (in reference to kenpachi claiming green)
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 07 2012 14:15 GMT
#498
Oh wait I don't know if you're responding to the Insane Inmate flavor text or the "two categories" sentence actually, if you're responding to the flavor then nevermind :p
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#763
My internet has gone out and I might not be able to fix it by the final vote. I'm able to read really slowly on my phone. If rg has really claimed DT then leave him alone, medics too. This phone internet is slow as hell so I won't catch up until I get my internet back. I read a little bit though. Man I don't even remember who it was who called me scum but talking about third party isn't scummy even day 2+, its just a bad focus and if you look at my recent posts they're off that topic. It sounds like you're looking at really thin scumtells and false contradictions but not the real content or motivation of what I'm saying. Its a bad analysis. That's all I have to say about that for now.

Dunno how much has changed in the last 10 pages but my last feeling was that cybercheese is batman and the CC lynch as suggested by toades and crew was the scum wagon as was kenpachi. It makes sense considering his horrible plan and obsession it, then when I just tried to point out to him and others why it was an anti-town plan he (and others) turn around on me to call me scum/catwoman for talking about it. Nothing he's done that I've seen suggests pro-town motives. It also makes sense that scum would want to lynch batman. Wasted lynch and it protects the GF. However other players have parroted CC in a way I find uncomfortable and scummy, like tunkeg, and it gives off that scum agenda feeling where they try to push the same ideas without directly interacting with each other. It happens a lot. This may be my last post before the night cycle starts so here are my suggestions in case I die tonight.

Poison ivy/hush: both of you protect jackal58.
Harley quinn/other medic (forgot name): use your own judgment.

DTs: use your own judgment, anyone who came under a fair amount of suspicion is a fair bet. I don't remember which named rroles are detectives but you can split it up and have half those name roles check people who were in the hot seat today and half check on lurkers, this somewhat prevents the chance of every dt checking the same guy.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 01:46 GMT
#766
That's up to the medics to decide. Radfield is someone we don't want dead if he's town N1 obviously. They can make that judgment call without being directed by "town"
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#835
Got my internet back. I'll read everything I missed but by the time I'm done with that it'll likely be night. Please remember that if Cyber_Cheese flips scum it does not clear anyone who accused him or voted for him in the slightest.

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:18 GMT
#845
I just read Jayjay54s case. It's not worth picking apart but I'll address it generally. I'm a spammy player who second guesses himself a lot. I switch votes a ton and I'm very gullible. It's a habit I'm trying to curb and I've taken note of my bad early play here.

Why am I the only player taking heat for talking about third parties? Because I'm pointing out the anti-town motives of the other players who are addressing it. When people don't understand what I'm saying and ask me questions about it, don't blame me for answering, thanks.

I don't buy that WBG's case on rG was so terrible either. I still think CC is the better vote. He tunneled Kenpachi way too hard and wasn't really able to make a strong case for it. We all know his little green claims are stupid. He claimed it's just a random useless vote when he got pressured for his shitty case even though it was obvious he was trying to get votes on Kenpachi. And he FoS's and unvotes in the same post. If someone can explain to me what was so shitty about that case please do, I'll go ahead and listen, if I'm wrong I'll admit it. I've already learned a bit and changed my mind coming into this game and reading a little bit of L. I put my vote there and was as of yet unsure if I wanted to push Cyber_Cheese who was, at the time, my #1 scum read. I think I explained my reluctance in the mason group, maybe I didn't, but I dislike voting for players who attack me right away because I'm a very emotional player and there have been a lot of games as town where I've wrongly convinced myself a player was scum because they criticized me too much.

That is what it is. I'm pretty sure CC is batman/mafia anyhow, unless he really is as bad as WBG claims.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:19 GMT
#846
Hey Kurumi, if you're the vig you might as well tell us which one right? Surely, no harm in that.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:22 GMT
#848
If you're the vig tell us which one. Don't you dare dodge.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#850
The scum already knows you're a vig. Tell us which one. You have absolutely nothing to lose by telling unless you're scum worried about getting caught in a fake claim.

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:26 GMT
#854
You have one hope at surviving this game which is getting your name out (scum will hit a vig why wouldn't they?) which will confirm you are who you say you are when no one challenges you, then getting medic protection. You know you can at least survive tonight so the mafia gets your KP, you don't care what happens since you're toast on Day 2 probably so just spill it
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#855
On February 08 2012 12:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On the off-chance I die, look into all the people that called my plan anti-town.

No one is taking that seriously except you, I trashed your shitty plan already so drop it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:30 GMT
#859
Why would mafia waste three bullets on you if you don't say name versus only one if you do? That doesn't make sense unless you're the Joker. If you're the Joker you're still gonna get guarded. Your argument is as impressive as wet clay.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#861
On February 08 2012 12:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 08 2012 12:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On the off-chance I die, look into all the people that called my plan anti-town.

No one is taking that seriously except you, I trashed your shitty plan already so drop it.

Catwoman had her way, and that's regretful.
That doesn't mean it was a bad plan.

Giving up the vig Day 1 to a third party that has no incentive to shoot anybody? Yeah it's a terrible plan. The fact that you're using that as some kind of proof that I'm catwoman is ridiculous. Keep making yourself look like scum or batman though.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#865
On February 08 2012 12:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 08 2012 12:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On February 08 2012 12:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 08 2012 12:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On the off-chance I die, look into all the people that called my plan anti-town.

No one is taking that seriously except you, I trashed your shitty plan already so drop it.

Catwoman had her way, and that's regretful.
That doesn't mean it was a bad plan.

Giving up the vig Day 1 to a third party that has no incentive to shoot anybody? Yeah it's a terrible plan. The fact that you're using that as some kind of proof that I'm catwoman is ridiculous. Keep making yourself look like scum or batman though.

The mafia game doesn't last that long. Why gamble on having two nights when you can hit a person every night?

I'm not gonna repeat myself more.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:40 GMT
#870
On February 08 2012 12:38 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why would mafia waste three bullets on you if you don't say name versus only one if you do? That doesn't make sense unless you're the Joker. If you're the Joker you're still gonna get guarded. Your argument is as impressive as wet clay.


He's saying that because he only claimed vigi that mafia, batman, AND catwoman would all have to shoot him to see if he's one of their targets or not. Mafia obvs want to kill blue roles (vigi), batman wants to kill the joker (a vigi) and catwoman wants to kill Penguin and Two-Face (both vigis). Though I guess it could turn into a WIFOM thing where one of multiple of them decide not to shoot cause they think the other group will shoot. I dunno, i can see the logic behind a "no name claim" stance but I don't know if it really matters or not in pulling more than 1 bullet.

Oh, I understand that now. Alright.

Kurumi, stay quiet about it for now. If you some how miraculously survive the night then you need to claim it. You and I may or may not have an understanding already, if that's the case just say so and things will work out very well for town probably.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:54 GMT
#875
Cyber_Cheese is Batman and he thinks I'm the Joker, I'm pretty sure this is the case. If there are only 7 minutes left is there any point in switching my vote?

You lose nothing by role claiming unless you are Batman. This is the only player who can't claim right?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#878
Maybe I'm just second guessing myself. If he flips Batman I will be completely unsurprised and disappointed that I had no internet for most of the day I guess. What does he have to lose by saying he's green, even?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 08 2012 03:59 GMT
#879
On February 08 2012 12:57 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 12:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Cyber_Cheese is Batman and he thinks I'm the Joker, I'm pretty sure this is the case. If there are only 7 minutes left is there any point in switching my vote?

You lose nothing by role claiming unless you are Batman. This is the only player who can't claim right?


I mean...batman can pick whatever he wants other people to see him as. I don't see why batman can't fake claim. In fact batman SHOULD fakeclaim if he's about to be lynched as a blue like vigi or DT since mafia won't be able to shoot him and town isn't going to want to lynch him either. I don't think CC is batman or else he would have fakeclaimed by now.

Hm, I was under the impression that Batman could make no claims at all but I guess you're right. I always get filled with doubt in the last few minutes. If he is Batman it's not a gigantic loss but I'd really rather not lynch third parties over scum. If I caught on to him as a candidate for Batman early on you can bet scum did too so that's something.
RIP Aaliyah
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