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On February 09 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Players to protect:
Radfield
DocH
maybe Kitaman
a) why? did you contribute? are you special? b) hell no. why? Even if he's town, he doesn't do shit. c) pretty random too. where are other vets (afaik, correct me if I am wrong): WBG forumite Opz Kenpachi This list is just pushing your own agenda. WTF?
It's just playing the odds JJ. I have a history of dying night 1. Bugs and Chaoser could probably be on that list, but for different reasons I don't think either should have protection tonight. Those other three you listed don't need protection.
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On February 09 2012 03:30 Palmar wrote:
I suggest someone shoots radfield. Maybe you can do it risk.nuke?
Bullshit. You do it Palmar, you've got a gun, don't get other people to do your dirty work for you.
On February 09 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.
Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig.
Because if Batman is in the Phone booth then he should have the Joker pretty well narrowed down by now.
On February 09 2012 03:36 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:33 Jackal58 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:31 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:28 Kurumi wrote:
WBG is not a vet. Forumite is not a vet. Opz might, but he has been useless so far. Kenpachi is always useless.
Also:
Opz is really weak this game.
Kenpachi is suspicious this game.
Forumite is actively lurking
WBG is meh. I am sorry for calling wrong ones. I am quite new  Rad was actively lurking as well, kita hasn't really done much either. This list feels random as shit. Also, might someone show we where the doc claimed his role plz? He hasn't that I'm aware of. Radfield just thinks highly enough of him to ask that he get some medic loving. no he specificially put him under power roles and not under people to protect. either he was wrong or there is mason stuff going on. if he really thought he was legit enough, then this list is even more pushing his own random agenda. The doc isn't exactly good this game either.
No, the Doc was not under Power roles and he's playing fine this game.
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On February 09 2012 03:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:31 Jackal58 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:30 Palmar wrote:
I suggest someone shoots radfield. Maybe you can do it risk.nuke? Can't you? Mr. Two Face? No, I need to shoot risk.nuke.
Now THAT makes sense
Now we just need someone to shoot Sheth and we're in business.
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On February 09 2012 03:42 Toadesstern wrote:
I also don't want people to protect palmar
lol, there's your protection Palmar
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I know all you Vigilantes are dying to know who to shoot, so here it is
Radfields List of Acceptable Vig Shots
Sheth
risk.nuke
Evantrees
Visceraeyes
Slardar
Tyran
Qualis
Jaybrundage
ico
These folks a night 1 pass:
Opz
Forumite
Everyone should pretty much be off the table.
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Hush: Protects Jackal or Rad/DocH/Kita
Poison Ivy: Protects BM or Rad/DocH/Kita
Harley Quinn: Protects Schworz or Rad/DocH/Kita
Scarecrow: Protects Jackal/BM/Schowrz
Just realized there is a problem here in that Hush is in the open(Bill Murray), and can be easily roleblocked. That means Scarecrow should be prioritizing Jackal somewhat over the other two.
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On February 09 2012 03:53 ico wrote:
Alright, so I question you posting your orders and you put me on the list?
Nice move.
They weren't meant to be orders. I normally put a "Thoughts? Agree or Disagree?" on the bottom of those type of posts, but neglected to. Rest assured I'm very open to discussion.
However, I put you on the list because you are somewhat scummy. I almost put you on the '1 night pass' list, but swapped you back over. I just don't see you dying as a huge detriment to town right now. Prove me wrong.
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On February 09 2012 04:00 Palmar wrote:
also, radfield's list is terrible. don't shoot into it.
Shoot him instead.
Stop it.
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On February 09 2012 04:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 04:01 Radfield wrote:On February 09 2012 04:00 Palmar wrote:
also, radfield's list is terrible. don't shoot into it.
Shoot him instead. Stop it. Why? You're scum
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I got shot last night.
rgShworz is obviously not Two Face, and in act I'm willing to bet he is not a DT. He claimed a hit, yet no WAY catwoman did not target him last night.
Therefore he is either unkillable by Catwoman, which means he is either one of the vets (Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze) or Poison Ivy; or he himself is catwoman.
Yet he has claimed DT, which means he can only be catwoman out of those options. The Two-Face claim kinda makes sense if he's catwoman, but I can't really wrap my head around it. However his entire role-claim was bizarre(claiming dt out of the blue), which reminds me ALOT of the iGroks early neutral-balrog claim. There was almost no pressure, and he claimed a role which was basically guaranteed to see him killed. If he was bulletproof at night that actually makes sense, as the lynch is the only thing he fears. I still need to think about this, but he's not the lynch today.
We're missing a ton of KP, so it makes sense that if he is catwoman, he might have investigated DocH. Which means it's possible he's not lying, but it sure sounds like bullshit. He should have gotten a role back, not an alignment.
Either way, DocH and Toad seem more than confident enough, and both seem like town. If it comes to name claiming so be it, but I'd rather their identities remain hidden.
In other news, I investigated Sheth last night and he is Tyger
This gives us a whole truckload of info from the Day 1 lynch, because Sheth and CC were neck and neck for a while until CC ran away with it. I haven't looked through it yet, but I assure you scum will fall when I do
##Vote Sheth
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On February 09 2012 22:49 -_-Quails wrote:
Kurumi didn't shoot at me last night.
I won't vote anyone other than DocH today unless DocH is absolutely proven blue. One-for-one is a good trade for town and that's the best outcome rg would get as scum faking a guilty.
That's ridiculous. There is no way in the world that Catwoman would not shoot RG last night. It was a free Two-face kill. Schworz even claims he took a hit, but a catwoman hit is unblockable unless you are a vet or Poison Ivy. Schworz is neither of those, hence the most likely option is that he is catwoman.
Also, if he was actually a detective he should have gotten back a role, not just alignment.
On February 09 2012 21:53 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 21:49 Kurumi wrote:
Also trying to claim that DT is as insane as insane is claiming miller.
Oh wait, You've already claimed blue. Too bad. It's the only possibility since I'm not mafia. He's either insane or lying. I don't see why it's so ridiculous to think that there might be non-sane DT's in this game. Two millers have already flipped. We can have a max of 3 DTs. Mafia has 3KP, DT of their own, Roleblocker and a Medic. That's more than enough to stop claimed DT to die. Now. Did someone claim shooting Slardar?
Why do you think that mafia have a medic? I don't see that anywhere in the OP. I see DT, Roleblocker, Vet + 3 KP.
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On February 09 2012 22:51 Palmar wrote:
Radfield, how did you survive? Is it it your role?
I shot you dead good last night. But you're much less dead than I had hoped?
On February 09 2012 22:52 Palmar wrote:
oh I get it, you're black.
If I was black I would have shot you in the face Palmar I most certainly would not have DTed Sheth.
I assume I was saved by a medic.
Why would you ever shoot me night 1, it borders on braindead. You're supposed to have good reads on me too Palmar. I'd accuse you of being black, but then I wouldn't be here would I. That leaves mafia or bad Palmar... which is it I wonder?
So are you voting Sheth or what?
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On February 09 2012 22:58 kitaman27 wrote:So what's your name radfield?
Nope
How bout you explain to me why after reading the Schworz/Toad/DocH situation you came out with the conclusion of lynching DocH.
On February 09 2012 22:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Rad what about lynching Schworz first? We can block mafia hits but noone but myself (+ true vets) is able to block catwoman hits I think. I'd much rather not have Schworz rampaging town.
However the only downside is that I really could give him that nooby card. Let's put it that way: I'd say he's going to flip 50 out of 100 times mafia. 35 out of 100 tmies Catwoman and 15 out of 100 times something else that doesn't make sense at all.
Guess I should have shot sheth or opz yesterday instead of kenpachi and trusted myself...
Also I don't think I am in danger, even if we nameclaim. Mafia hits can be blocked after all even if I become mortal again.
Sheth is mafia. Lynching him does way way more than lynching Schworz. Yes, if we leave him alive another day he can kill someone, but that's not a huge deal. There is also the chance that Sheth is a miller, but I highly highly doubt it because A) Two millers got flipped last night and B) Sheth has been super scummy all game.
If the early game option is lynching mafia or 3rd party, you ALWAYS lynch the mafia. End of story.
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On February 09 2012 22:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 22:56 Radfield wrote:On February 09 2012 22:49 -_-Quails wrote:
Kurumi didn't shoot at me last night.
I won't vote anyone other than DocH today unless DocH is absolutely proven blue. One-for-one is a good trade for town and that's the best outcome rg would get as scum faking a guilty.
That's ridiculous. There is no way in the world that Catwoman would not shoot RG last night. It was a free Two-face kill. Schworz even claims he took a hit, but a catwoman hit is unblockable unless you are a vet or Poison Ivy. Schworz is neither of those, hence the most likely option is that he is catwoman. Also, if he was actually a detective he should have gotten back a role, not just alignment. On February 09 2012 21:53 Kurumi wrote:On February 09 2012 21:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 21:49 Kurumi wrote:
Also trying to claim that DT is as insane as insane is claiming miller.
Oh wait, You've already claimed blue. Too bad. It's the only possibility since I'm not mafia. He's either insane or lying. I don't see why it's so ridiculous to think that there might be non-sane DT's in this game. Two millers have already flipped. We can have a max of 3 DTs. Mafia has 3KP, DT of their own, Roleblocker and a Medic. That's more than enough to stop claimed DT to die. Now. Did someone claim shooting Slardar? Why do you think that mafia have a medic? I don't see that anywhere in the OP. I see DT, Roleblocker, Vet + 3 KP. Not true all. Toaddesstern is also able to survive a hit from either Batman or Catwoman. Hugo Strange is a medic isn't he?
On February 09 2012 22:58 Toadesstern wrote:
they've got a medic according to my op
On February 09 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote:
Hugo is a medic and godfather and the guy behind 1 KP, directing Deadshot, the bearer of said KP.
thanks for the tagteam guys. Don't know how I missed that.
On February 09 2012 23:02 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 23:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 22:58 Kurumi wrote:
Actually, I think I might know what's going on with Schworz then.
He might be Poison Ivy. She is unkillable by CW. This means, if CW hit him, it would have no effect. And, as You said, we can be sure CW actually did hit Schworz. Although, this still means he's town. A really weird gambit if You ask me. Then why would he lie and say he checked me and found me guilty? He's either an insane DT or a liar. I can't claim until I get a green light from BC. I'm ready to do it, tactically, but because of the nature of my role there is a small annoyance that scum can turn against me if I'm not able to explain my role fully or allude to the issue. Schworz is Poison Ivy Vigilante and he hit You. Since You did not flip, he assumed You're Ra's Al Ghul.
Poison Ivy is a medic, not a Vig. And as far as I can tell you're the only one who thinks DocH is Ra's Al Ghul.
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On February 09 2012 23:13 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 23:03 Radfield wrote:On February 09 2012 22:51 Palmar wrote:
Radfield, how did you survive? Is it it your role?
I shot you dead good last night. But you're much less dead than I had hoped? On February 09 2012 22:52 Palmar wrote:
oh I get it, you're black. If I was black I would have shot you in the face Palmar I most certainly would not have DTed Sheth. I assume I was saved by a medic. Why would you ever shoot me night 1, it borders on braindead. You're supposed to have good reads on me too Palmar. I'd accuse you of being black, but then I wouldn't be here would I. That leaves mafia or bad Palmar... which is it I wonder? So are you voting Sheth or what? That's extremely interesting Radfield. Remember when I at the start of the game posted the lyrics to "Don't Cry" by guns and roses? The key line is "I've been there before". I rolled the same role as last time Radfield. Unlike last time my role is town-sided. What's interesting is that, being the joker, my kills are unblockable, except I can't kill the veterans and batman/catwoman. So, now. What do we do with you? You've basically confirmed yourself as batman or catwoman. Do we lynch you? Or do we allow you go for another day. In addition, this means it's very likely your investigation is correct on sheth... So we have both a confirmed 3rd party and a confirmed scum.
If that's true it opens a whole new can of worms. I assure you I am not third party. I can also assure you I am a DT and not a vet.
I realize that if I'm batman I HAVE to claim I'm not him.... but I'm not actually Batman Do you honestly think I would DT Sheth if I was Batman? That makes zero sense.
This means that there is a chance Schworz could ACTUALLY have been protected from catwoman. Palmar if your hit restriction says the same thing as Batman/Catwomans then it means those hits are actually blockable... which is silly.
So alternatively, you are lying. That actually seems more reasonable, but in any case we lynch Sheth today, Batman almost certainly kills you tonight, and that clears everything up
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On February 09 2012 23:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Let's get organized now.
Palmar, myself, and Toadesstern are all certainly town at this point. Radfield is very likely a third party, but I am not so much concerned with this. Again, if he keeps posting his DT results he's just helping town and I doubt he's just gonna go on a rampage shooting townies. Radfield is smarter than that.
rGTheSchworz lied about his check or is insane. Kurumi comes up with the idea that he was a vig who hit, didn't get a kill, and just assumed Ra's Al Ghul? Where do you get that kind of confidence from? You're a noob vig who shoots a vet player, gets blocked: could be medic, could be veteran, but you're SO CONFIDENT you're willing to put your neck on the line to call him scum? That seems really unlikely. Not only that, but Kurumi comes in with the immediate accusation that I'm Al Ghul and is laying out the beginnings of an argument for rG to use
If he doesn't argue he's insane he's either gonna have to convince the town that his check is better than Rad's (unlikely) then he has to do something else and Kurumi set him up nicely don't you think?
Kurumi a player who:
-Claims vig but not which. CW's existence is irrelevant, he's already made himself a target for her by that claim.
-Refuses to claim name after pressure.
-Says he's going to make shots, then doesn't pull through.
-Sets up rG to argue his way out of a probable fake check
rG survives as well. He claims two face and doesn't die?
He claims to be immortal then asks "WHY DIDN'T THEY KILL ME"? That doesn't add up. I've cleared my head and I'm looking through this shit.
Why would a medic protect the two-face guy who claims to be invincible knowing that medic hits DON'T STOP CATWOMAN?
rGTheScwhorz is a liar or monumentally bad. Or I'm monumentally bad at reading comprehension. You decide which it is.
Kurumi is also the one who jumped to the Ra's Al Ghul suggestion. That jump makes no sense, especially when Kurumi also saw that scum had a medic. Why would he assume Ra's Al Ghul?
If anyone has a DayVig shot, now is the time to use it on Sheth
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On February 10 2012 00:11 Forumite wrote:
We lynch Radfield, then shoot Sheth
##vote Radfield
lol. Big fat lol.
How bout we lynch Sheth then you Forumite.
I'll be back tonight.
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Liquid`sheth - 8
hiroprotagonist
katina
kurumi
Forumite
Palmar
radfield
Visceraeyes
tunkeg
Cyber_cheese - 7
Toadesstern
drH
slardar
ico
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
This is the vote total 1.5 hours before the lynch. Between this time and the lynch 5 more people vote for CC.
Liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray
Sheth obviously doesn't count, and Jackal is dead. Bill Murray votes with a 1/2 hour to go, and actually switches onto CC from Kurumi. The CC lynch was already assured at that point, and mafia would want to distance themselves from the CC lynch at that point. That probably makes BM less likely to be scum, but BM loves his WIFOM.
Opz and evantrees were the 2 votes that cemented the CC lynch.
Evantrees only mention of CC prior to voting him:
I Think CC is catwoman for some damned reason, so I am fine voting for him but still considering.
next post:
On February 08 2012 12:02 evantrees wrote:
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
Proper voting format is
##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?
Evantrees has done nothing redeeming this game. He is still talking about mechanics, speculating on night hits, and in general doing very little. Evantrees is very likely scum.
Opz's switches votes onto CC. He also hedges by stating that he DOES actually want Sheth dead, just not yet.
On February 08 2012 11:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Moving my vote to C_C due to reservations against wanting sheth dead just yet...Just....Yet....
K, I'ma start swimming. Gotta go pick up my dress pants and button up after I finish in this disgusting joker fish water.....
Opz is also actively cutting players down and somehow siding with Schworz out of that mess:
+ Show Spoiler +
And another post afterwards getting mad because a townie is pressuring for what doc H is claiming, when a DT received a red check? You renigged your claim of two face, so what the hell are you talking about toad. Jesus....I've never been 100% down for LAL but shit, Palmar, Toad, DocH, gtfo this game.
On February 10 2012 01:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG?
BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas
So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. I wonder how long you go after this post before you claim miller....or remember it exists....so like 6 posts before you claim blue, and toad supports it using something docH would know from Jackal's claim and QT? Okay....yea... Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Revealing the category of my power role would put me and the town at a disadvantage so I won't do it. Like I said, if it's necessary to avoid getting lynched then that's fine. Otherwise it's best for medics to protect me, which will keep both myself and Toades alive indefinitely.
I was going to make my case on both you and Radfield today, but I'd like to wait for rG to explain himself a little. If he doesn't claim insanity then either he is scum or BC is a bastard mod. I'm willing to take my chances on the former. It's a crazy situation but that doesn't matter, an outright lie like that is about the scummiest thing you can do. Considering the mafias hit on me failed they might just want me lynched. I think Jackal was possibly stacked TBH....So I'm not gonna just 100% believe your medic claim. I don't want the medic that protected you to claim either, but you reek of scum, and I've thought that sense day 1. I didn't say anything then, but omg omg omg I do not want this thread shit up anymore. also....you all post to much in 9 hours....jesus....spamtastic going to work. on page 78. Yall will probably make it to page 120 by the time I'm off.
Opz is clearly not following along very closely, though it's certainly possible that that is due to IRL reasons. Very possibly scum, though less likely than evantrees in my mind. Both are good targets.
Other than that it's kinda hard to get a good quick reconstruction on the voting pattern. In fact, up till that point the voting counts were pretty obscured, unless someone took the time go through them. Here is the breakdown in votes for each Sheth and CC:
+ Show Spoiler +Layabout: CC (1:0)
Katina: Sh (1:1)
Toad: CC (2:1)
DocH: CC (3:1)
Palmar: Sh (3:2)
Forumite: Sh (3:3)
Toad: Sh (2:4)
Slardar: CC (3:4)
VisceraEyes: Sh (3:5)
Kurumi: CC (4:5)
ico: CC (5:5)
Toad: CC (6:4)
Bill Murray: Sh (6:5)
Radfield: Sh (6:6)
Hiro: sh (6: 7)
Kurumi: UN CC(5: 7)
risk: Sh (5:8) ~ 5 hours to go
Tyrran: CC(6:8)
BM: UN Sh (6: 7)
Layabout: UN CC (5: 7)
Chaoser: CC (6: 7)
WBG: CC (7: 7)
Kurumi: Sh (7:8)
After this point 5 more votes fall on CC. Any unvotes are in italics. CC votes are on the left, Sheth votes on the right.
Tyrran, Bugs and Chaoser all rally when Sheth is leading by 3 votes. And frankly, all three look decently scummy. I haven't actually reread Day 1 yet, but I'm looking forward to it once Sheth flips. Obviously all 5 players are not likely to be mafia, but unless scum bussed Sheth hard Day 1, at least 2-3 probably are.
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On February 10 2012 07:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
kk lab in 2 minutes:
ask me any questions you want answered from someone who actually knows what he's saying.
I haven't read like 20 pages (something like 60 to 80 or whatever was added to the thread since I went to sleep/class.)
After lab/study group tonight I'll be back to answer stuff. For the meantime, please kill Kurumi. Also Sheth is dumb town; this bandwagon is insane.
On February 10 2012 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
also RG is clearly not reading the thread because Dr H fucking claimed clayface and he said clayface hasn't claimed yet -_-
indicates RG is either scum or third party; more likely to be third party actually because I don't think he'd have the balls to fake claim a check
So you're obviously not reading the thread either WBG. Therefore you must be either scum or third party yes?
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I'm on the move today, and working tonight. I should be back just before the lynch though.
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