Oh i didn't realize the power jackal had fuck-

SENATOR: You are a Senator up for re-election. Because you are a politician, you are corrupt as shit. You can completely ignore your constituents and cancel the lynch of the day, substituting your own target. Of course, if you do this, you will be impeached and will be unable to do this again. (You will not be modconfirmed, its just a 1-shot power with flavor).

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 03:24 GMT

#1509

red smile or something. You are really mad right now we all get it but venting at everyone isn't well, nice.

gg.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 03:31 GMT

#1514

Red are you saying they should over turn the tie and mark town as the loser? You DID just get out of a lose you know. I had the vote timing down to im pretty sure the half second to line up to the day post so if they hadn't just ended the game like that I would have voted you before you could vote me. It was a pretty for sure scum win.

just say gg, make your opinion known (I think it is >_>) and BREATHE.

To be clear, I submitted a night action to kill Cwave so yes the game was going into the who votes for the other first race and I was ready and being gay (f5'ing like 2 times per second with my vote written up and mouse on the post button). I was playing to win in a situation that turthfully had a method for either side to win. It just was something you would have to have predicted perfectly and also been approaching in the same manner in order to have a chance.

Im glad its a tie, the scum team deserves that for the fail to lynch you when it was 4 players total (before that its a bit more gray IMO as to town 'had lost'). If it wasn't a tie though, I'm pretty sure scum would have won cuz I was ready.

Keep in mind it is a tie.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 03:34 GMT

#1518

Dang red... I'm out of this thread. Go grab a beer or whatever calms you down.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 06:21 GMT

#1526

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 13:42 GMT

#1529

On February 14 2012 17:15 Cwave wrote:
Thanks for hosting!

/slap self for thinking Radfield was 100% scum.
/slap self more for not lynching GGQ sooner. I can't believe we let that guy cruise and ultralurk for so long

These were the two largest town mistakes. I really can't believe either happened tbh.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 14:46 GMT

#1535

Having slept on the matter I want to add that IMO this game wasn't a draw because I was playing the end game (last night and last day) 100% correct with the intent to win and it is safe to say that by the timing of my vote I had indeed accomplished creating a situation where in fact scum had a 100% chance to win and town 0%. Im kinda sad that we waited until that moment to end the game in a tie. I kinda feel like the game was allowed to run untill the town had been beaten and the a draw was given.

It doesnt matter though there isnt a ladder or ranking and I had fun. gg

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 14:49 GMT

#1537

On February 14 2012 23:35 Palmar wrote:
Just wanna pop in and say I agree with iGrok's method of running the game. As long as both factions still have a chance to win there is no need to call the game unless the rules explicitly state so.

I mean, I understand it being frustrating to play in a game where you don't think you have a chance at winning, or very little chance, but just try to make the best of it. Or, if you need to, just ask the host to replace you. Then criticize the setup in a constructive manner.

On a seperate note, I agree with this. A careful read of the rules can clearly show how and why eithee side could have won up till the very last second. This game is a good case study in that particular set of rules concerning vote count and lynching but that is a 100% different matter.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 18:35 GMT

#1546

I think the simple solution is you must have more than 50% of the votes to lynch someone or there is a no lyncg. That or change the tie policy.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 19:39 GMT

#1550

Acctually ya zephs idea is the best. The core of this setup is NOT the BP it is the communication that scum use and thw inception agent.

I would say go for town having two dreamer roles that are not identical.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 21:37 GMT

#1556

Some groups play the day vig role where the day instantly ends without a lynch when the day vig shoots. The role is super similae if you are thinking of that kind of day vig.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 21:47 GMT

#1559

On February 14 2012 12:20 vaderseven wrote:
Oh i didn't realize the power jackal had fuck-

SENATOR: You are a Senator up for re-election. Because you are a politician, you are corrupt as shit. You can completely ignore your constituents and cancel the lynch of the day, substituting your own target. Of course, if you do this, you will be impeached and will be unable to do this again. (You will not be modconfirmed, its just a 1-shot power with flavor).

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 14 2012 21:52 GMT

#1561

Oh. Well thats pretty much what day vig is on like SA. The ONLY difference is flavor and maybe the way it could interact with other roles because it uses different terms.

Im used to that kind of day vig. They shoot day ends as soon as they submit the command and noone lynched.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 15 2012 16:01 GMT

#1577

I was thinking about another aspect of this setup. The leo role is a classic example of a single role that has a heavy influence on the overall balance of the game. That is a risky way to balance because of the fact that he can die at anytime juat like everyone else.

I would suggest a set up where the scum are only each allowed say 3 messages all game long and remove the leo role.his keeps the basic elements of this setup more stable. This setup was not about leo it was about scum not knowing each other. The leo role dieing so fast completely changed that dynamic.

There is probably other ways to accomplish this but the idea is to find a way to let scum do some chatter without them having a 100% safe way to reveal all to each other.

In the case of that wierd 2 vigi 2 scum just add a rule that states there may be additional rules that regulate the victory condition and add the line until your shot is fired you count as 1.5 players when figuring how many scum vs town remain.