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@MeatlessTaco Well we obviously can, so why are you unvoting? Though I appreciate it, you're not exactly being overly helpful here.
@Paperscraps
15 people * 3 votes = 45 votes when we started
wherebugsgo took out 3 votes = 42
VisceraEyes took out 2 votes = 40
There are 36 votes left now which means 4 missing.
LSB had to trade 1 and he couldn't receive any which means he had 1 when he died. Palmar traded 1 and he was siphoned so he supposedly also lost just 1. This makes no sense.
risk.nuke claims to have sent 1 to Palmar which would put Palmar at even more votes and layabout couldn't just have siphoned 9 votes from Palmar when Palmar had 11 votes. That makes no sense.
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Palmar 1 -> prplhz
Jackal58 1 -> Palmar
chaoser 1 -> Palmar
LSB 1 -> layabout
prplhz 5 -> Palmar
Dirkzor 1 -> Jackal58
risk.nuke 1 -> Palmar
[UoN]Sentinel 1 -> Paperscraps
Paperscraps 2 -> risk.nuke
jaybrundage 1 -> Jackal58
MeatlessTaco 1 -> jaybrundage
Node 1 -> [UoN]Sentinel
layabout 4 -> chaoser
45 start - 3 bugs - 2 ve = 40, we have 36 now so 4 are out
Palmar 4 - 1 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 11
Jackal58 3 - 1 + 1 = 3
chaoser 3 - 1 + 4 = 6
LSB 2 - 1 = 1
prplhz 6 - 5 + 1 = 2
Dirkzor 2 - 1 = 1
risk.nuke 3 - 1 + 2 = 4
[UoN]Sentinel 2 - 1 + 1 = 2
Paperscraps 4 - 2 + 1 = 3
jaybrundage 2 - 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
MeatlessTaco 2 - 1 = 1
Node 2 - 1 = 1
layabout 5 - 4 + 1 = 2
If layabout got siphoned all the votes SENT to Palmar that night, he got 8 votes from that. If LSB sent layabout 1 vote then LSB ended up at 1 one, Palmar at 3 votes and layabout at 10 votes. LSB and Palmar getting killed takes out 4 votes from the game. Puzzle solved. What does this mean?
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God dammit something is wrong lol.
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Ignoring MeatlessTaco from now on.
Dirkzor gave a vote to jaybrundage. Sorry, I'm a bit tired but I think I got it now.
##Vote: layabout
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Jackal58 that makes no sense. Tons of other people gave Palmar votes, you included, and they didn't end up with chaoser.
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If Palmar was bussed with anybody he was bussed with layabout who then received all of Palmar's votes and if Palmar was medic/jailer protected then scum just hit layabout to kill Palmar. I think it was pretty clear that Palmar wasn't a veteran or he wouldn't have traded 2 votes night1 and 1 vote night2. He expected to be protected again but somehow he died.
The bussing ability is usually not a one shot ability? Then I don't fully get why scum didn't use it night1. I also find it unlikely that layabout gave his votes to Palmar because then they would have ended up back at layabout. Palmar was not really coming around on layabout and chaoser was openly arguing and disagreeing with Palmar so it makes sense for a town layabout to give chaoser votes and consequently also for a scum layabout.
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yea guys it's the rules relax
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On February 02 2012 12:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Well, on the plus side, I don't have 6 walls of text to read when I get home from school tomorrow 
We'll see.
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On February 02 2012 12:32 jaybrundage wrote:
Sentinel Prplhz what do you guys think about the chaoser lynch
Not a fan.
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Dunno, something is rubbing me the wrong way about Jackal58 being medic I had a feeling that Paperscraps was the medic/jailer who protected Palmar and two medics in a setup with only 1 scum hit seems like a bit too much.
Do medics get confirmation about their saves if they save someone who is getting shot?
@Jackal58 Did you protect Palmar night1 AND night2 and Node night3 or Palmar night1 and Node night2 AND night3? Did you receive any confirmation about any saves?
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On February 03 2012 19:47 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:19 prplhz wrote:
Dunno, something is rubbing me the wrong way about Jackal58 being medic I had a feeling that Paperscraps was the medic/jailer who protected Palmar and two medics in a setup with only 1 scum hit seems like a bit too much.
Do medics get confirmation about their saves if they save someone who is getting shot?
@Jackal58 Did you protect Palmar night1 AND night2 and Node night3 or Palmar night1 and Node night2 AND night3? Did you receive any confirmation about any saves? Palmar night 1 and 2. That's why I figured they had a bus driver. Cause Palmar died. And I wasn't role blocked. That's also why I was positive Palmar was town.
On February 03 2012 19:47 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 12:19 prplhz wrote:
Dunno, something is rubbing me the wrong way about Jackal58 being medic I had a feeling that Paperscraps was the medic/jailer who protected Palmar and two medics in a setup with only 1 scum hit seems like a bit too much.
Do medics get confirmation about their saves if they save someone who is getting shot?
@Jackal58 Did you protect Palmar night1 AND night2 and Node night3 or Palmar night1 and Node night2 AND night3? Did you receive any confirmation about any saves? Palmar night 1 and 2. That's why I figured they had a bus driver. Cause Palmar died. And I wasn't role blocked. That's also why I was positive Palmar was town.
But you are blatantly avoiding answering one of my questions, specifically "Did you receive any confirmation"? I've been through Paperscraps filter but I can't find any breadcrumbs about his role, it'll clearly tell us something about Paperscraps' role which will be useful.
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Why is everybody claiming at all by the way?
Also, those vigilante hits. Very well done.
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Alright, since I'm tce medic who was told of a successful save on Palmar night1, I'm pretty confident that Jackal58 is lying consequently making him the last scum. You could say that medic is a bad role to claim for scum, but not really if you think about it and certainly not when we suspect them of having a bus driver.
+ Show Spoiler +Not that it matters but I breadcrumb my save here (wanted to make it SAVE or PROT but HEAL had easier letters): On January 30 2012 04:43 prplhz wrote:Hey Even though you left a full 8 hours before the lynch, not pushing [UoN]Sentinel strongly at all, you feel like you can come in here and complain about it? And you don't even have a point with your complaining, only "that was bad", you don't use it for anything other than complaining for the sake of complaining. Laughable at best, not laughable at worst. @ Palmar What was that game where you were Arctocod with syllogism? This wasn't for a role claim, but in case my save would overlap with a town vigilante, I would at least be able to prove my role to him if that would be beneficial at some point.
The only explanation that absolves Jackal58 is that scum double stacked Palmar night1 which would give us both a save confirmation, but this makes no sense when they have a bus driver. An additional hit could have pushed town 1 step closer to LYLO instead of using it to double stack Palmar.
Also, since Jackal58 received a confirmation he would 100% know that Palmar is town, then there would be no backside of trading ALL of his votes to Palmar (as I did night2). If Jackal58 would be hit then all of his votes would have been preserved for a 100% townie. If Palmar got hit then Jackal58 would get all of his votes back. Also, it should be very obvious that Palmar actually put a ton of effort into this game so it's not like Palmar would do something stupid with all the votes he received. The reason Jackal58 didn't give Palmar all of his votes night2 was that he knew that those votes were going to layabout, who would get instantly lynched so he wanted them for himself.
Additionally, I thought the whole time that scum would trade a vote to Palmar night1 when they thought he was going to die since they would just get it refunded.
Ask yourself this, what the hell has Jackal58 done all game? I would actually have suggested his lynch today if we weren't able to find anybody else, just because we'd most likely have to lynch him at some point anyway. Even if it is hard to tell his alignment from his "tone" I'd say that Jackal58 scumhunts more as town than as scum and he's done nothing this game. I think Jackal58 tried this rather silly gamble because he knew he was fucked with so many townies left until LYLO and how he's done absolutely nothing useful so far, unfortunately he's fucked anyway.
##Vote: Jackal58
GG
Oh yeah, I protected Palmar night1 and night2, protected Node night3.
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Be a man and vote for yourself.
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Really ballsy and awesome shots by Node and Dirkzor. Shooting the only scum with any real town influence, really nice.
Haha those breadcrumbs Paperscraps. I doubt anyone found those 
The only grave VisceraEyes digged was his own? AMIRITE???+ Show Spoiler +
Anyway, VisceraEyes throwing himself under a bus like that was a pretty bad move. He not only incriminated himself but also LSB. I don't know what you guys were thinking.
I don't think scum played bad, but town had some crazy awesome powerplay and VisceraEyes gave himself up as did Jackal58. I can see where Jackal58 was coming from with his claim but I think he should just have relaxed and hoped town would have lynched somebody else.
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EPT
