Hammer Mini Mafia - Page 3

On January 30 2012 06:36 layabout wrote:

fuck off with the "you like wifom shit."

I was merely pointing out that his absence is not something that we can draw conclusions from. risk had said it as if it meant he was scum so i responded by saying that i could similarly draw the opposite conclusion.

also prplhz i wanted people to post that they were in agreement/not in agreement with the balancing act proposal,. I only explained my stance on the lynch because i was asked to. If you look at the words about both topics in my first post today:
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this should be evident.

Are you actually suggesting that the mafia would have bussed wbg yesterday? How is is scummy to think that that would be so stupid we should not consider it?

On January 30 2012 06:52 LSB wrote:

This is an interesting argument. For the sake of the argument lets assume that WBG was mafia (and try to disprove it)

If WBG was mafia, mafia would attempt to defend him. Why? Because it is no flip and it is less risky defend players. In addition, there is less incentive to bus players because town will not be certain that the mafia you bused was actually mafia.
Therefore the No-flip sets up incentives for more straightforward-town scum play.

Now, to straight out say that there was no defense of WBG would ignore two things. Counterlynches.
At the end of the day there were three important lynches. And a valid tactic would be to try to attract attention to another lynch.
VisceraEyes- Lead by Palmar and Node
[UoN]Sentinal- Proposed by Me, supported by a few other people.

A few things, first of all the WBG counterlynch happened extreamly fast, he went from a few votes to magic majority in about 4 hours. By this time a few of the other lynches were abandoned, both me and Palmar switched to WBG.

The only person who put up a soft 'defence' of WBG was Node as Node was reluctant to lynch WBG. Currently I have a green read of Node.

From here I conclude that it is unlikely there was a mafia defense of WBG, even though there were very solid counterlynches. This could be explained because twoards the end it was less about persuasion, and more about trying to shove a lynch before the deadline. However a last minute push for one of the other two canidates is not impossible in that situation.

Because of this we should treat WBG as a green townie.

On January 30 2012 07:52 layabout wrote:

can you read?

On January 30 2012 16:45 Dirkzor wrote:


He is asking questions this game. He is writing statements. He have an opinion. While he is not the one with the most or longest posts his posts have had something to tell.

In Puragtory he did not do any of those things.

On January 28 2012 13:24 LSB wrote:

This is one of the worst example of logic I've ever read. If I was day vig I'd kill you for trying to make a case out of this.

On January 31 2012 04:26 Paperscraps wrote:
##Unvote VisceraEyes

I agree with risk.nuke.

Palmar we need to slow down a bit here. I agree that either Viscera or Palmar needs to die, but hasty lynches are not good.

From Palmar's perspective Viscera is 100% scum and vice versa, but other townies can't be 100%. (even if the late cc is suspicious)

With that being said, I still believe Viscera is scum and Palmar is town, at this juncture. It is only good for town to talk about this more. See what others think about the lynch.

More analysis/opinions/discussion ----> more material to get reads on people.

On January 31 2012 04:39 Dirkzor wrote:
I agree that either Palmar or VE have to die. Or both due to No flip.

I would vote VE now, but I don't want to hammer (my vote won't be the hammer i know) until everyone have had a chance to claim the hit on either one. If no one claims it could still be a scum nightvig. How likely do you find that mafia have a nightvig?

If no one claims the hit I think the jailer should claim. Because if no one claims the hit or the jail we would have lynch both to be sure.

On January 31 2012 04:56 layabout wrote:
You then tried to kill LSB who has done more to help town than any other individual.

On January 31 2012 05:13 layabout wrote:
Scumteam:
1) Palmar or ViceraEyes
2) jaybrundage
3) Meatless taco
4) sentinel
5) jackal58

4 from that, in any order.
Either Palmar or Vicera is scum due to claims. (them both being town and claiming hits with no NK and 1 scum KP is extremely unlikely)
None of these players has looked very town to me.

On January 31 2012 06:00 prplhz wrote:
Can people please vote/hammer VisceraEyes? Look at wherebugsgo yesterday, he was killed in half an hour. Why is it taking so much longer today when VisceraEyes is way more scummier than wherebugsgo was? Plenty of people around.

Palmar is hit night1 as town just about every game. VisceraEyes has never been hit by scum night1. QED. I think the only people in this town who would shoot day1 as vigilante is Palmar and chaoser and they'd both claim immediately after and they've both had the chance.

VisceraEyes clearly dies today and we have at 36 hours until next lynch which is plenty so stop using that as an excuse. Vote him now so we can get on with the game.

On January 31 2012 06:09 LSB wrote:
A few things to note, Palmar has been doing a lot of fear-mongering throughout the day. He essentially has no reasoning besides "Vote along what I say or else I'm going to include you in my magical scum list". If fact the only reasons why he gave to lynch me is "LSB didn't give votes to me, and he gave votes to someone I don't like QQ".

That being said, VE has a late claim. And it's a pretty unbelievable claim. Oh well I guess it's something to keep on the back of my mind.
##Vote: VisceraEyes

On January 31 2012 09:07 chaoser wrote:
Guys...seriously...why did Day end? I'm so confused.