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John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 14 2013 15:49 GMT
#81
On April 14 2013 12:52 Namunelbo wrote:
I've become so addicted to this game, instead of playing SC2 I spend all my time playing this game on the Arcade section...

I'm looking more for a 'live' version of the game, aside from the Arcade and forum version.
Maybe an IRC version? I visited the IRC TL-Mafia channel but seems to be empty most of the time.
I remember reading about other IRC channels, but not sure how active they are.

I may try the forum version in the future, but usually it seems to take a few days to complete, and for me a more 'live' version would be more suitable right now (ranging from minutes to hour).

Suggestions?

Also, I'm still relatively new to this game and the forum / reddit / written version of the game seems to be more organized / professional / methodical than the one in the Arcade, that from time to time there are those games that grind your gears...



Easiest way to find games is http://epicmafia.com

There is an IRC mafia game channel that used to be somewhat active on gamesurge I think.

The best quick games happen in #TLMafia on Quakenet, but sadly we only play very occasionally, so you'd probably have to watch this forum for updates (someone usually bumps the IRC thread when we're about to play) or just idle in our channel.

Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 02:06:36
April 17 2013 01:44 GMT
#82
I have another question, not sure if ask it here or in the 'How to improve' thread... Since I already bumped this thread I'll ask here.

I checked the Epicmafia website, I think the problem with faster / live games is the little amount of time you have, same with the SC2 version.

I recently played a game (SC2 version), and there was a game where the town was following a citizen on the decisions about who to lynch.
Turns out this 'citizen' had about 70-80% of accuracy on naming mafia 'suspects'... This didn't caught my attention until the game finished where the roles are revealed, which I checked the replay immediately looking for clues or steps this player took...

I know you can't get much clues from the game's replay, and probably this player has a lot more experience than me, but how in the world does a citizen guess correctly who was the Godfather at the #1 night (this may not be so accurate, since he voted to lynch because the actual Godfather was using citizen's real bnet ID), and the rest of suspects with 70% - 80% accuracy considering his role and how the town on that game turned out (town was pretty quiet, mostly random lynching or following the loudest voice, which was him with the accusations, also sheriff was killed early stage but helped to name a mafia suspect, leaving only one last mafia and one neutral-killing, but the other 2 investigators were mostly quiet throughout the game)...

Was it maybe a pre-made setup, or experience acquired from long term playing on how this particular game tends to 'randomize' its roles? Worst scenario of all, all luck?
Or is there a genuine way to have this percentage of accuracy purely from skill and improvement, even with such roles as citizen?

With these kind of experiences I think it's just better for me to dive in to the forum mafia as soon as possible...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 17 2013 02:25 GMT
#83
It's impossible to answer without knowing the game setup. However from my experience a 70-80% accuracy rate of catching Scum is ridiculously high and impossible to measure. There are many things that go into what makes a good player and "catching Scum" probably isn't the best mark of one, but even the best Scumhunters won't catch Scum even half the time imo. A mark that high probably means he/she abused the setup or was far, far above the level of everyone playing.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 17 2013 04:33 GMT
#84
On April 17 2013 11:25 Ace wrote:
It's impossible to answer without knowing the game setup. However from my experience a 70-80% accuracy rate of catching Scum is ridiculously high and impossible to measure. There are many things that go into what makes a good player and "catching Scum" probably isn't the best mark of one, but even the best Scumhunters won't catch Scum even half the time imo. A mark that high probably means he/she abused the setup or was far, far above the level of everyone playing.

Well with UMS Mafia,
You can just guess based on certain things that each player does. Ive done the lead town as cit and just random lynching dudes that turn out to be scum. Its probably just lucky.
No gg, No skill.
Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
April 17 2013 09:20 GMT
#85
On April 17 2013 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 11:25 Ace wrote:
It's impossible to answer without knowing the game setup. However from my experience a 70-80% accuracy rate of catching Scum is ridiculously high and impossible to measure. There are many things that go into what makes a good player and "catching Scum" probably isn't the best mark of one, but even the best Scumhunters won't catch Scum even half the time imo. A mark that high probably means he/she abused the setup or was far, far above the level of everyone playing.

Well with UMS Mafia,
You can just guess based on certain things that each player does. Ive done the lead town as cit and just random lynching dudes that turn out to be scum. Its probably just lucky.


I just rewatched the replay, and most likely that seems to be the case...

That and accusing those who dare not speak as possible scums or those who defended the Godfather in the previous trial.

I guess experience from long term playing the UMS version contributes this accuracy, it just surprises me with how little clues and how much empty talk there tends to be, he still managed to pinpoint them down... Not to mention how little investigators contributed to that game, and how easily he decided on who to trust.

I guess this version is not suitable for me... I will try Epicmafia for a while before joining the forum version and see how it goes.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 17 2013 13:05 GMT
#86
On April 17 2013 18:20 Namunelbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 13:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 17 2013 11:25 Ace wrote:
It's impossible to answer without knowing the game setup. However from my experience a 70-80% accuracy rate of catching Scum is ridiculously high and impossible to measure. There are many things that go into what makes a good player and "catching Scum" probably isn't the best mark of one, but even the best Scumhunters won't catch Scum even half the time imo. A mark that high probably means he/she abused the setup or was far, far above the level of everyone playing.

Well with UMS Mafia,
You can just guess based on certain things that each player does. Ive done the lead town as cit and just random lynching dudes that turn out to be scum. Its probably just lucky.


I just rewatched the replay, and most likely that seems to be the case...

That and accusing those who dare not speak as possible scums or those who defended the Godfather in the previous trial.

I guess experience from long term playing the UMS version contributes this accuracy, it just surprises me with how little clues and how much empty talk there tends to be, he still managed to pinpoint them down... Not to mention how little investigators contributed to that game, and how easily he decided on who to trust.

I guess this version is not suitable for me... I will try Epicmafia for a while before joining the forum version and see how it goes.

Its an arcade game, you dont really need to think all that much.

I came from UMS to here and I find forum mafia much more enjoyable cause you can get better, a lot better and its really fun
No gg, No skill.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 25 2014 03:00 GMT
#87
pazi

throwing me off thinking oats posted
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Willard42
Profile Joined May 2014
United States54 Posts
January 13 2015 15:49 GMT
#88
Okay, my big question (and I apologize if this was answered already) but what is the proper way to use the abilities that certain roles get (e.g. the doctor saving somebody, or even a mafia killing another player)?

I would love to join some of these games, but this one mechanical aspect is completely holding me back, so any help would be appreciated.
"Don't Panic"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 13 2015 15:58 GMT
#89
If you're doc, you save who you think is most townie who you believe mafia will target for a night kill
If you're vigi, you shoot whoever you think is most scummy.
If you're cop, you check whoever you want

Join a newbie game. A mentor will be provided to help you out, regardless of what role you get!
Willard42
Profile Joined May 2014
United States54 Posts
January 13 2015 16:03 GMT
#90
Well thank you for your help, but I think I sort of mixed up what I was trying to say.

I guess I'm just asking how do you actually type out these actions, because typing them in the general chat would obviously give yourself away.

I apologize for my general lack of knowledge, I'm more of an observer on these forms, rather than a poster
"Don't Panic"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 13 2015 16:13 GMT
#91
On January 14 2015 01:03 Willard42 wrote:
Well thank you for your help, but I think I sort of mixed up what I was trying to say.

I guess I'm just asking how do you actually type out these actions, because typing them in the general chat would obviously give yourself away.

I apologize for my general lack of knowledge, I'm more of an observer on these forms, rather than a poster

Oh...you send them to the game host in a private message. EZPZ Or they'll make a QT for you and you can make your night actions there.
Willard42
Profile Joined May 2014
United States54 Posts
January 13 2015 16:15 GMT
#92
Okay, thank you so much c:
"Don't Panic"
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 29 2015 03:02 GMT
#93
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/370487-newbie-mini-mafia-xxviii?page=64#1262

Just want to have a place where I can (hopefully) remember where to find it.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
jocker007
Profile Joined July 2015
1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-07-07 01:05:29
July 07 2015 00:47 GMT
#94
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 24 2015 01:33 GMT
#95
This nuked fool keeps throwing me. That name is so similar to my old handle like srs delete his post or what?!? HIJOLE!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
NavVu Dondo
Profile Joined July 2015
1 Post
July 31 2015 20:21 GMT
#96
I'm sorry I'm new at team liquid... where do I find the forum?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
August 03 2015 18:46 GMT
#97
On August 01 2015 05:21 NavVu Dondo wrote:
I'm sorry I'm new at team liquid... where do I find the forum?


The TL Frontpage, with articles, news, and links to posts and streams, is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/

The TL Forums page, with links to all of TL's forums, is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/

You can find the forum here for TL's Mafia-playing community here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/

If you're interested in Mafia, our active list of Mafia Games is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/174347-active-list-of-mafia-games

which will show you which games are running, which are open for signups, and which are coming up. right now a newbie game is running, and there will be a new one open for signups soon.

If you want to read some articles about how to play Mafia, they are here, at the TL Mafia Central Library:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/274334-tl-mafia-central-library
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