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Ok, because we have two good reads on scum CatsNHats and Cephiro, I'd like to talk about something else until they come back. There is a chance there is a detective. There is a chance there is a medic.
If you are the detective, you should NOT choose the person who you think will die during the night. You should pick someone who you'd like to know about and isn't likely to be killed soon, and who would really help town to know about.
If you are the medic, you should choose the few people who you think mafia might want dead on this night and WIFOM in between them. However this night you have an advantage, and you might for future nights as well. Mafia isn't sure you exist. The best % they have is that if they have a roleblocker, there's a 50% chance you exist. Because of this, I'd recommend if you exist simply use your ability on who you think is the most townie.
Also, if you've found one mafia you should come out in the open and tell us about it. There are other situations where either medic or detective should come out, such as if you know 3 confirmed town and were nearing LYLO. Use your best judgement on those situations. Does everyone agree that if you find a mafia the detective should come out with them?
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@Probulous I see what your saying. And I like the Ver's guide post. I think we both get what the other is saying and should just drop it.
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Ok, well I'm going to sleep now. I wasn't completely sure if the DT for one mafia was a good trade or not, so I brought it up to see everyone's reactions. I am leaning its probably good, if they have some other confirmed townies for sure. And this will all changed when we learn whether someone was RB'ed during night. (Then it means we have a medic who can save you if you come out). I want to hear more on that, and our cases from our lurkers.
Look forward to reading your post when I wake up Andre. Keep posting Duran! And probulous we can agree on some things I'm sure :D!
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Gmorning all.
On January 05 2012 14:43 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 14:20 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Ok, well I'm going to sleep now. I wasn't completely sure if the DT for one mafia was a good trade or not, so I brought it up to see everyone's reactions. I am leaning its probably good, if they have some other confirmed townies for sure. And this will all changed when we learn whether someone was RB'ed during night. (Then it means we have a medic who can save you if you come out). I want to hear more on that, and our cases from our lurkers.
Look forward to reading your post when I wake up Andre. Keep posting Duran! And probulous we can agree on some things I'm sure :D!
Why Sheth  Just when you are looking good you write something that comes across really scummy. You are also making the same mistake I originally did, here are the setup options. Set Up:1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town 3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town They can have a roleblocker with no blue roles. It just means that if someone is roleblocked, there are either no power roles or both DT and Medic. No point speculating now. I know you are heading to bed but who are your top 3 scum reads, please before tomorrow morning. Can we got a vote count please?
I was suggesting here that "they" medic or detective should come out if they know more then just one mafia, such as one mafia and 3 confirmed town. Detective can figure this out a lot easier then medic, but medic can definitely find a lot of confirmed townies. I realize that just because there is a detective doesn't mean theres a medic or a RB even. I just meant that IF we get RB'ed and your a detective, we then know there's a medic. This should influence the DT's thoughts on coming out or not.
I read through CookieMaker's / A K C T's filter. Cookie's filter looked a little bad. He talked a lot about his read on CatsNHats and then never posted it. A K C T I like that your asking questions, but could you please post a few reads you have as well?
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you!
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So we've really gotten off topic here. We need 7 votes to get a lynch. We've all agreed we need a lynch today.
As far as I can tell (People format your votes like ##Vote: please )
Tunkeg - Gretorp --> A K C T
CatsnHats - Gretorp --> Cephiro
CookieMaker (A K C T) --> CatsnHats
Blurry ---> A K C T
Jitsu --> A K C T
Liquid`Sheth --> Cephiro
Probulous --> Cephiro
Gonzaw --> Xeris
So, as of now thats 8 votes out of 12. We need a majority of 7 to lynch.
Xeris, Gretorp, AnxiousHippo,Cephiro we NEED your vote!
Those of you who have your vote on A K C T are you willing to switch over to Cephiro if we don't have a lynch by the end of the day to at least get us a lynch? Who will be on for Lynch time? We lynch in exactly 4 Hours 23 Minutes from now.
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@Gonzaw see'ing your vote is still on Xeris, who do you plan on switching to out of A K C T or Cephiro? And why?
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On January 06 2012 06:15 Jitsu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 06 2012 02:30 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 23:43 Blurry wrote:On January 05 2012 13:08 CookieMaker wrote:On January 05 2012 12:46 Jitsu wrote:
RE: Cookie, Analysis
Damn, you're "Big Read" is of a suspected town player.
And another suspected town player.
Instead of posting who you think the Town players are, why don't you actually give us some reads on who the Scum players are? I think that would be more beneficial in a game where finding Mafia matters. Especially since we're 24 hours in and I don't clearly recall you posting any scum tell.
At all. Then it's a good thing I caught up before posting #3. Your evidence was everything I had against Cats. My plan was to transition out of "Sheth should have put more pressure on him" into "... and this is why". I felt like I was getting unlucky after analyzing 4-5 players and coming up with zero good scum reads and only 1-2 town reads (despite the consensus against Ceph, I'm still confident in my read). Finally when I stumble upon a clear winner for wishy-washy of the year award, you've already beaten me to it. Cats was going to be my big expose'. ##Vote for CatsnHats The "I don't have to post analysis because he already said it post" Other than that most of his posts have contributed nothing and have just been filler. Didn't post his reads on any players until he was pressured into doing it. Don't you think these could just as easily be newbslips rather then scumslips? 'least, thats the way it looks to me. Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:49 Jitsu wrote:On January 05 2012 20:22 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote:
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why?
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why?
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why?
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you!
There is e secplenty of discussion in the mean-time where questions like these waste more logical thought than is required. If you want to WIFOM the proposed blue specials, do it later, but as of right now, there are better things to discuss, especially with the limited time we have left in the day to center our votes on someone. The DT and Medic are both roles that will need to be smart about who they use it for. Why are you even bringing in a Vig/Role Blocker when they aren't even in the game for the Town? I think there is a better question to be asked right now. Cookie subbed out at a bad time for you Tea. I don't think i'm the only one that is suspicious of the role that Cookie was given. Now, onto the second part that caught my eye. The bolded part at the end - the simple "you." I assume the "Abstinence lets scum hide among "you" refers to the town. However, since I was given the role of VT, I would have worded it as "us." Scum slip this early? Not a good start. I still think that if Cats flips red, you will too. But I also think that you're role is red. On the contrary, i find that asking questions such as these provide responses which can be most telling! I know that there isnt a vig or a blocker in the game right now, but those are the standard four questions i tend to ask in mafia games (i usually play closed setups). Its not so much what you'd do with your role, its your reasoning that proves to be interesting. Incidentally, it appears that you think i am asking these questions in order to wine the actual power roles and scums attitude towards them. This is not the case - i am asking because this is a tool i have always found helpful to help hunt scum! As for the part that you bolded - i thought it was clear that the "You" referred to the people who abstained, not town as a whole. It seems you are clutching at straws! Are you asking me to roleclaim? Because i don't want to do that regardless of what my role is. I've always considered Role Claims to be Bad (with a capital B!) and only to be used as a last resort. I'm nowhere near my last resort yet. After all, i just started playing! I understand that CM has left me in a bit of a poor spot...i'd like to remind you that Newbs often make slips that look scummy but are in fact newbslips. Too many times i've mislynched newbs for these slips! I'd further like to ask that you judge me on the posts that i make if possible (the quantity of which will hopefully rise soon). Whilst i of course understand that this slot wasn't played solely by me, its rather more difficult to defend CM then it is to defend myself, because i dont know what drove his actions, yknow? As for my reads...i'm getting a couple of light ones right now, but i'd rather do it justice and make one Big post (like my Mechanics post) so that i can both collect all my reads in one place and give ample reasoning behind them. I intend to sit down for an hour or so to do this properly later on tonight when i can have an unbroken hour of just mafia. I'll prolly end up writing a couple of paragraphs on each player stating what i think of em. Where did I suggest you role claim? If you view it as such a bad idea, why would you even bring that notion up? Really? It's rather hard to judge you based on you're posts now when we all have our own reads on players now. Just because you came in and subbed out doesn't mean you're role changed, similar to how if I subbed out now, people should still view my replacement as if it was me. Instead of telling us to disregard everything that was posted in you're capacity, come up with reasons now why we should disregard previous play. RE: Gonzaw - It's a scum slip that I said the proposed blue roles, and that DT and Medic need to be smart on who to activate their specials on. I think you're reading way too far into it. I'll say it again, as well as reiterate what has been said many times prior; talking about Blue roles at this point is stupid. We have no reason to even bring it up since this is lynch day, and we don't even know if they are in the game, as you said. RE: Sheth/Votes - Before I even decide to switch my vote to Cephiro, I want to see his response to the accusation post by Probu. That being said, I will have to re-read his entire filter again and make a judgement, but a lot of things Cephiro said early was pretty damning. I have a question Sheth - earlier, you went to sleep teasing us with a post about some posts that were worrying you. The next day, you let us down by not giving us the post you said you were going to because the person under suspicion (Cephiro) came out with a [not very strong] analysis of every player in the game at the time, pretty much saying everyone was town and no one was really scummy. Than you came out and in the next post in the thread, jump on the Cephiro bandwagon, and start trying to get others to jump on it too. Sheth, I've played two (including this game) games with you, but I do know you like to play logically. Can you post you're original feelings about Cephiro, and than how you're thoughts transformed throughout the game from newb null read to scum read? What do you have to say to Cephiro if he said you were slightly neutral to scum? Are you town, Sheth? @Cephiro - Along with you're defense, I have something to add as well. There are a lot of times early in the game where you are pushing the idea that you are town. A lot of what you said seems forced to me. Also, there is a point where you are jumping back and forth between a miss-lynch and no-lynch policy. Reading that from a scum point of view, it's almost like you are trying to put the idea back into the idea of the town. What do you think of Sheth at this time, and why?
Yea, I went to bed with some good ideas and wanted to think about it before posting. When I woke up and saw the new post I wanted more time to look at it and I wasn't sure my original point was too valid because of his new post. Around this time Probulous made his full post before I could fully look at Cephiro's post. And after reading Prob's post it rang true with what I was thinking earlier and it invalidated a lot of my "well maybe he is just town and not scum after all" points. (The fact that he was being agressive back towards me, and towards others was what made me cautious These were some of the things that made me think he was scum :
"Also, it might even be that the mafia has a roleblocker but the town has no power roles, which renders the mafia roleblocker useless, making the situation even worse for them."
This post seemed off. Why would it be important that if a roleblocker from mafia isn't that good if we have no town roles. It just seems like something no town would think of. And the way its said just seems like hes trying really hard to insinuate that its "them" and "the mafia". Then :
Anyway, I think that we should try to be provocative and try to raise as much discussion as possible. In my opinion we should aim to lynch someone (hopefully scum) on D1.
This also rang bells. Town should never be "provocative", we should pressure. We don't want to create chaos we just want to use logic and pressure people. I geuss thats similar to provocative, but I think there's a difference. And saying that we aim to lynch someone "hopefully scum" just seems so bad. Obviously we want to lynch scum, why would you even say that? Its helpful either way, but clearly we want to lynch scum..
He then changes his opinion on no-lynch seemingly for no reason and says
"I'm not entirely convinced on a no-lynch, but I do agree that lynching a townie on D1 is a bad start. I think it comes down to how much information we'll have, if there are any seemingly scumreads I personally think we gain more as town if we try to lynch the scum, since if we hit, we are at a very good advantage."
Why would he say hes "not entirely convinced on a no-lynch. Just so many things that I think a mafia would make. Little things, but when added up they say a lot to me.
Then he says "Or random accusations to get people to talk." You don't do random accusations, you find reasons and you accuse intelligently. Only mafia want things to be random as far as accusations go because they have a higher percent to not get hit. All of these posts had me really worried when they were added together. I guess I should have brought all of this up earlier, but I thought Prob's post was good enough to get us lynching him. And these are my points after going back and re-thinking about it.
So jitsu, theres why I think hes scum. I am a townie, hopefully you'll see from my arguments. As to what I'd say to Cephiro if he says I'm null-scum, "Thats exactly what I'd expect scum to say" 
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Ok, in the future I'll make my post easier to read and tell who said what. It looks a bit texty sitting here staring at it. Please take the time to read it though. And the reason I want to see if people are willing to switch on to Cephiro, is that a no-lynch is crazy. I'm going to have to leave soon though, so when I leave my vote will be stuck.
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Probulous lets get an alarm that lets the other know when they post so we can auto come in and post the next post instantly? 
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I'm here. however I have to leave soon. Probulous sense were the only two active are you willing to go on to AKCT? I'd rather get a lynch then none and we seem to be the only two willing to switch.
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1hr 49 minutes from here! <-
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Probulous please read my question, as I have to leave really quickly and want your take on this. Unless you tell me otherwise I'm going to move my vote over to AKCT when I leave because a lynch is better then no-lynch.
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If you haven't voted for him, please vote for him.
##Unvote: Cephiro
##Vote: A Killer Cuppa Tea
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This post seems like its one of two things.
1. Hes honestly just a newb who isn't dealing with the pressure very well. It happens and this post is just his way of taking the pressure off of him.
2. His scum buddies helped him post something that looks good and will take pressure off of him.
I just CANT see him posting this as scum by himself. And this post seems like it was written exactly by CatsnHats, not by an outside helper as far as I can tell. Things like "this probably isn't the correct time" then still doing it, just seems very like cats. So, as I'm not convinced hes not mafia, I don't think he should be a lynch for us in day 2. If he is mafia he will definetly make some silly mistakes as we go along or he'll be dead.
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On January 07 2012 05:28 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:24 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
This post seems like its one of two things.
1. Hes honestly just a newb who isn't dealing with the pressure very well. It happens and this post is just his way of taking the pressure off of him.
2. His scum buddies helped him post something that looks good and will take pressure off of him.
I just CANT see him posting this as scum by himself. And this post seems like it was written exactly by CatsnHats, not by an outside helper as far as I can tell. Things like "this probably isn't the correct time" then still doing it, just seems very like cats. So, as I'm not convinced hes not mafia, I don't think he should be a lynch for us in day 2. If he is mafia he will definetly make some silly mistakes as we go along or he'll be dead. And as for you're opinion, do you think he is mafia or town?
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon.
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On January 07 2012 05:30 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 10:40 Probulous wrote:@Sheth Given this was your reasoning for finding Xeris REALLY pro-town On January 05 2012 12:57 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well, the Xeris thing is based completely on the fact that I know him really well IRL and we've played mafia a bunch before. He is really bad mafia. Like he'd be lurking and mod killed if he was mafia. and the fact that Xeris is no where to be seen and warned for not voting, has your positioned changed? He seems to be playing exactly as you would expect him to if he were mafia. Sheth can you please answer this...
Yeah, hes acting like I said he would if he was mafia. I feel bad about this though, as I asked him to come play and just asked him to read the first page and hoped he'd play. So I'm sure he didn't realize all the work he was getting in to (the ammount of pages, size of posts so forth) just from the first page. Same thing for Gretorp, so rather then make a judgement (I don't really think its possible based on the ammount of posts they've provided) I think its obvious we wait for them to either make some posts soon, get mod killed, or be replaced. If there replaced I'll go over there first posts again, but as I think they will be either mod killed / replaced, I don't think its important we go over their posts too much now. I can say that from there personalities I don't think any of these posts are conclusive that there mafia.
I expected more of 1 post a day, if they were mafia, not 0 posts a day, and they should always vote. I expected them to get modkilled much later in the game, not the first day if they were mafia. Just from a slow draining of interest of playing as mafia.
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On January 07 2012 06:20 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon. That doesn't fly with me. Let me explain why. Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 12:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats, welcome to your first game of mafia. You say "Not lynching unless reasonably certain". This is a scummy thing to say, as its leaning towards not lynching today. You realize there is no way to be "reasonably certain" on day one. Get it together and find some scum, or I'm picking you for our day one lynch. Nice first post. You jump on CatsnHats for doing scummy things. Perfect, exactly what I would like to see from a first post from someone. You get him, jump right up there and pressure that little weasel... Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 13:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D! ...wait, what the shit is this? You start pressuring someone, than let off because you think he's new. Why does being new matter? So he can't be responsible for his own actions? Why are you letting him off the hook so easily without even squeezing him a little bit? Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@CatsNHats -You seem oh so scummy. Whats your take on lynching Cephiro? Would you be willing to join in on this little train we're starting?
Anyone else willing to hop on board, don't forget to pack a vote. This was the post right after you vote Cephiro. After Probu posts his analysis, you step right on that train, right away. The only form of suspicion you threw on Cephiro was more wobbly than a Jenga tower. Than as soon as someone else votes for him, you vote for him. You even say that you saw some things that looked like he was scummy, but you let him off the hook too. Weird. Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 12:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Another thing I should say I geuss :
Don't base me being "Liquid`Sheth" on any reads here. I play mafia to WIN. I'm going to kill people heartlessly. You won't get out of an argument with me because I'm feeling nice. Its stupid to just trust me because that I'm someone you've watched. If I was streaming me playing mafia, I'd be the IdrA of mafia. Only scum would not want to lynch me based on me being "Sheth", it fits inside that little bracket of not wanting to upset others and just staying in the middle.
So basically next person who says something like "oh no sheth can't be mafia because hes sheth" I'm going to assume is a little scummier. Just figured I should post this as we win as a team and lose as a team, and I wouldn't want you guys who feel the same way about Xeris or Gretorp to not kill them because you know them. If there scummy, were going to steal Xeris' chair and not give Gretorp a hug.
Ok, because I honestly can't stay mean for too long, I wuv u Duran + Andre <3 lol You are the IdrA of Mafia? Ok. So why did you stop putting all forms of pressure on Cats so early? + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 23:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! Now you're opinion went from Cats being scummy, to him being new? Than AKCT goes up for lynching, and you jump to that one with new real analysis posting. At that point, it was a bandwagon lynch, but what was YOU'RE Reasoning? RE: Hippo - I just realized how you worded this. Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 16:04 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I might not be able to go through everything in time so I'll make a placeholder vote and hope I have time tomorrow morning to change it if need be.
##vote:Xeris
This is more of a pressure vote atm, since all his done is said he disagrees with RL and then says he doesn't want to lynch at all first day. Since all the pressure's been on cephira and CM he's been quiet.
You say that you will go over everything tomorrow morning and change a vote if need be. What? If it's not on time, you will just not vote, or leave it on Xeris? Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 08:36 AnxiousHippo wrote:
I haven't been able to go through everything as well as I hoped but we need a lynch. There was a lot of discussion on Cephiro but I haven't been able to read through it thoroughly enough so I'm going for Tea
##Unvote: Xeris
##Vote: A Killer Cuppa Tea Wow. Stellar. So you jump on this lynch train and don't even bother to explain why. Not only that, but you pretty much indicate that you are going off of what other people have discussed, and not come up with anything concrete on you're own, pretty much re-leaving all pressure from you if it's a miss-lynch.
So, whats your lead on CatsnHats? I'll answer all the rest after this.
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@Jitsu, you posted after my question. Could you answer it really quick?
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On January 07 2012 06:20 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm leaning town as of now. I stick by the fact that if hes mafia he'll make some huge mistake soon. That doesn't fly with me. Let me explain why. Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 12:17 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats, welcome to your first game of mafia. You say "Not lynching unless reasonably certain". This is a scummy thing to say, as its leaning towards not lynching today. You realize there is no way to be "reasonably certain" on day one. Get it together and find some scum, or I'm picking you for our day one lynch. Nice first post. You jump on CatsnHats for doing scummy things. Perfect, exactly what I would like to see from a first post from someone. You get him, jump right up there and pressure that little weasel... Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 13:47 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
CatsnHats come on, be counteragressive. I'm picking on you for no real reason. I just want to get you to toughen up. If it comes down to it at the end and someone is agressive like this against you, and you just KNOW hes mafia, you better toughen up.
As of now, I'm going to sleep. So far I've seen one post that worries me. Will tell you guys in the morning :D! ...wait, what the shit is this? You start pressuring someone, than let off because you think he's new. Why does being new matter? So he can't be responsible for his own actions? Why are you letting him off the hook so easily without even squeezing him a little bit? Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 05:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@CatsNHats -You seem oh so scummy. Whats your take on lynching Cephiro? Would you be willing to join in on this little train we're starting?
Anyone else willing to hop on board, don't forget to pack a vote. This was the post right after you vote Cephiro. After Probu posts his analysis, you step right on that train, right away. The only form of suspicion you threw on Cephiro was more wobbly than a Jenga tower. Than as soon as someone else votes for him, you vote for him. You even say that you saw some things that looked like he was scummy, but you let him off the hook too. Weird. Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 12:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Another thing I should say I geuss :
Don't base me being "Liquid`Sheth" on any reads here. I play mafia to WIN. I'm going to kill people heartlessly. You won't get out of an argument with me because I'm feeling nice. Its stupid to just trust me because that I'm someone you've watched. If I was streaming me playing mafia, I'd be the IdrA of mafia. Only scum would not want to lynch me based on me being "Sheth", it fits inside that little bracket of not wanting to upset others and just staying in the middle.
So basically next person who says something like "oh no sheth can't be mafia because hes sheth" I'm going to assume is a little scummier. Just figured I should post this as we win as a team and lose as a team, and I wouldn't want you guys who feel the same way about Xeris or Gretorp to not kill them because you know them. If there scummy, were going to steal Xeris' chair and not give Gretorp a hug.
Ok, because I honestly can't stay mean for too long, I wuv u Duran + Andre <3 lol You are the IdrA of Mafia? Ok. So why did you stop putting all forms of pressure on Cats so early? + Show Spoiler +On January 05 2012 23:48 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Probulous my 3 scummiest right now are probably Cookie ( A K C T ) / Cephiro and / Maybe blurry... he hasn't posted much and I'm not convinced CatsNhats isn't just completely new to the game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt while we have better people to pressure.
1) If you were a Cop (could determine the alignment of somebody during the night), who's alignment would you check and why? NOT Probulous, as I'd be worried he was going to die at night, I'd determine someone such as Gonzaw or Tunkeg.
2) If you were a Doc (could save someone from a nightkill), who would you save and why? I would save one of Probulous, Myself, Gonzaw and Tunkeg.
3) If you were a Vigilante (town-aligned nightkill) who would you kill and why? Probably no one, if I was forced to kill someone (Town CK) I'd probably kill A K C T (Cookie Maker) or Cephiro, depending on who we lynch.
4) If you were a Town-Aligned Roleblocker (could prevent someone from using their night action for a night) who would you block, and why? (Also, remember, an RB can act as a soft-cop. If you block someone and there's no nightkill, you may have blocked the mafia's kill! (Yes i know there's no Vig or RB in this setup.))
I'd probably RB either Cephiro or Cookie, depending on who we lynch.
5) If you have a vote on someone currently, please explain your vote.
I have a vote on Cephiro. Its explained in two posts that I posted earlier + Prob's analysis.
6) If you don't have a vote on somebody, please park your vote on someone. Have an opinion. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Abstainance lets scum hide amongst you! Now you're opinion went from Cats being scummy, to him being new? Than AKCT goes up for lynching, and you jump to that one with new real analysis posting. At that point, it was a bandwagon lynch, but what was YOU'RE Reasoning?
Ok then, you think Cats is scum.
At the beginning I could have pressured Cats more, I agree. However it appeared he simply didn't understand the basics of Mafia. However shortly after, I started putting most of my attention on looking at Cephiro. I didn't just stop all pressure on him though however like you assumed. It was just a temporary relieve to let him relax and get comfy again before taking away that relaxed state really quickly.
The next post saying that he looked "oh so scummy" was merely a way to get some pressure back on him. Also, its the first day. I'm not letting people go. I'm simply moving on to different people, it doesn't mean I can't and won't bring it back up. As you've noticed I'm currently pro lynching Cephiro. In fact I think he should be our #1 lynch target tomorrow.
As for me going to the A K C T bandwagon your welcome to read my filter. Considering you made me read yours instead of just saying "I think hes scum" have fun reading mine again.
And yes, right now I'm leaning Cats as town. I've also posted my reasoning for that. However I'm not "letting him off the hook". If he doesn't stay active then hes an obvious lynch target. However as of now hes posting and hes posting a lot. You say at the beginning that we shouldn't just wait and let him make more scum slips. Well, I don't think he should be our lynch target today, you think he should be sense you think hes scum?
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I haven't read his defense yet at all, I plan on making a big post on him after the night phase is over talking about the defense and such. Hopefully you don't mind waiting until morning.
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