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HarbingerOfDoom
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I am the sage. On January 11 2012 14:02 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @RoL See this post for the current time remaining in the day: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603#6 Anyway, I got the chance to spend some time today doing a bunch of rereading, and after doing so I will not be voting for RoL nor Risk today. Maybe I'm being dense, but I really don't see them as being leading candidates for flipping scum. If I end up having to choose between the two to avoid a no lynch, I favor lynching Risk over RoL, but I'd prefer to lynch neither. -snip- Geez that post came out longer than I expected. Ending with a vote on Tyrran, of course. ##Vote: Tyrran On January 11 2012 14:02 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @RoL See -snip- On January 12 2012 04:16 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Alright -snipped- On January 12 2012 04:42 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: gasdjafeaiuhfaisdf -snipped- On January 12 2012 04:54 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Err, -snipped- Night 1 I was banished so my investigation failed, but I tried to investigate Tyrran. Night 2 I investigated Grackaroni and got not-demon. Carry on. | ||
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On January 14 2012 13:49 Refallen wrote: This was the post where you claimed you breadcrumbed sage...because like, four of the first letters in 22 sentences just happen to make up sage! I'm not convinced v.v That one and 3 others. First two and last two sentences in that post, and also the S from that post and then the next 3 posts I made. Not enough words start with g T_T | ||
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How have I been invisible? People have been accusing me ever since the no-kill night one where I was in purgatory and I have been responding. | ||
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On January 14 2012 18:34 Blazinghand wrote: Anyone who thinks that breadcrumbs are a reasonable explanation or support for a claim needs to spend some more time thinking. A good scum player breadcrumbs every blue role during the start of the game, then points them out if he wants to claim. This should be obvious. The real question we should be asking is: Where did HoD breadcrumb his investigative results in the event of being shot by the acolyte? Read the OP. The acolyte can't kill me. Investigation result: On January 14 2012 07:26 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: (Although I did reread his filter as well)Grackaroni is also less likely scum than I previously thought, I reread his filter and looked through his filters from his previous games and overall he seems ok. Don't have time to explain more now, but wanted to at least say that before I had to leave for like 5 hours or so. And yes, clearly I breadcrumbed sage before killing wiggles with no way of knowing what his role would be, and then just so happened to get super lucky and killed the sage and that is why there is no counter-claim. Makes perfect sense. And it also makes perfect sense that you found scum with 2 teammates alive and yet you were nearly able to lynch me in a mere 6 hours with the help of people like Zephirrd, who, 6 hours prior to voting for me, said this: I like Grack's case on Spaackle; I still have a hard time to understand why HoD was jailed n1, and by who. Maybe his posts about mechanics made Palmar want him roleblocked? No idea, but I can't see HoD as scum from his filter. Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.@Syllo I put barely any effort into my defense because I had about 45 minutes during which time I also had to get shit ready to head back out. Alright, Harbingerofdoom's only scum read in the last few days has been Tyrran and now he isn't so sure any more. He doesn't think blazing is scum. Probably not Grackaroni. RoL? Nope. Cwave? Err, no HoD didn't really say that either, though apparently he was one of the people he would have lynched over risk. Spaackle? He dislikes "the look of spaackle", asks him a question and doesn't follow up. No scum anywhere apparently I mostly work by process of elimination. And the list of people I cast suspicion on included much of the same reads as the list you made shortly after. Clearly I came up with largely the same reads by doing no scum-hunting whatsoever. Tyrran finally bothered to defend himself, Cwave died and flipped green, and Grackaroni I investigated and got not-demon. So yeah, that obviously changed some shit. Feel free to count all the people I list as scum up through the end of day 3 in election mafia btw.But, since it seems like you really want it, 5 scum remain, I will post my bottom 6: Zephirdd xsksc replaced by Spaackle layabout Bluelightz Jackal58 RebirthOfLeGenD | ||
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Do you want me to vote now, or wait? | ||
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On January 15 2012 03:50 syllogism wrote: I did not and we've a reason to believe that Wiggles was the sage. Are you going to spend your time today posting analysis or are you going to be really busy again? Look, Thursday of last week I went to a Bruin's game, my work won a new contract on Friday of last week and my girlfriend's birthday was on Tuesday of this week. We went out Tuesday, and attended dinner parties last night and on Sunday, her birthday party was Saturday, and I met up with a friend for dinner on Thursday, so yes, I have been a bit absent. I honestly don't give a fuck if you think that makes me scum. That being said, I only have about an hour before I have to head out to do grocery shopping and such. I'll do what I can and then vote RoL for you before I leave. | ||
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On January 14 2012 03:53 Zephirdd wrote: HoD is not scumI just think it's a waste of game mechanics; Killing someone who people didn't knew would create a bigger confusion, as in "we don't know how many demons live". MrWiggles was obviously not a Demon, so it is kind of a waste of a mechanic. Granted, we don't know if he was a blue, but I don't think it matters as much at this point. I like Grack's case on Spaackle; I still have a hard time to understand why HoD was jailed n1, and by who. Maybe his posts about mechanics made Palmar want him roleblocked? No idea, but I can't see HoD as scum from his filter. RoL still looks like the best lynch, but we'll see what happens. No wait, scum. Because I've been 'invisible'?: On January 14 2012 10:04 Zephirdd wrote: I'm playing billiards with a couple of friends atm, finding some time to post in between. If you care, I'm crushing them hard. HoD has been basically invisible this game; nothing about him, besides the jailing, stands out. However, it makes a lot of sense that AoD would target you. HOWEVER, being "invisible" is usually a scum trait. So yeah, I'm willing to vote him; I really want to see his response though I've said it before, and I'll say it again though. Take a good look at Spaackle's posting, now and in the future. Also lol @ layabout being serious about that scum flip probability. How you apply math on something so inexact, I have no idea. ~>Voting HoD as of now J/K, not scum: On January 14 2012 13:51 Zephirdd wrote: Time elapsed: 10 hoursUnvoting HoD for the following reasons A) Less chance of ninja scum hammering B) I want to hear other people's(esp. syllo) thoughts on this C) I fail to understand why is it so hard to believe that the AoD targeted syllo night 1, instead of HoD=AoD I'm sleepy atm, so I'll brb tomorrow. Mb I should leave my vote back on Spaackle. Actually, yeah, I'll do that. 'night On January 10 2012 02:27 Zephirdd wrote: Uh huh...Yes, I know I am on that list as well, but that's just because I was this close to sucking him yesterday after his case. That was due to the XLVIII fiasco and I told myself "listen to veterans you know". I swear I'd probably end up helping demons this game, had Palmar not died. On January 11 2012 03:24 Zephirdd wrote: Passing some responsibility.Syllogism, sir Lynch leader, please explain this situation. Anyone else is also invited to do so. On January 14 2012 09:23 Zephirdd wrote: Hey guys, don't blame me if I am wrong, I'm always wrong!Let me be clear tho; I don't like to create new cases even though I'm willing to take responsibility for it. Reason is simple: 100% of cases I have made by myself were wrong. AKA. I don't trust myself. He is clearly avoiding blame for any of the lynches, and he went from stating I am not scum to voting for me as soon as my lynch started gaining some traction. Then, immediately unvotes with my claim and again implies he thinks it is likely I am not the angel of death. Nothing very town-like about that. | ||
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Gotta go meet up with my gf to run errands now, not sure when I will be back. | ||
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I haven't reread filters, but currently I'm still liking HoD/RoL/Zephirdd as the angel team and Grackaroni and/or Tyrran as demon(s) and then one or two others. If HoD/RoL both flip angel, which should be clear by the end of tomorrow, there's a high chance of Zephirdd being the third and not just because his strange behaviour before the lynch. Grackaroni is 100% not a demon. If you need to lynch me tomorrow to prove it, then so be it. | ||
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On January 14 2012 19:23 syllogism wrote: Syllo...why in the hell would he want the demon hunter to hit someone he got not-demon on? Wouldn't he prefer the seer over someone that will kill the person if he is wrong on his scum-read? I know I sure as hell don't want Grackaroni getting stabbed by the demon hunter. And why would he say this if he knows he has a 0% chance of flipping demon?Wiggles warned about trusting breadcrumbing and posted this on n2 I think he investigated RoL on n1 and got not-demon It also solves the problem of having to convince people to lynch him if he flips demon I have no idea how you think this is him breadcrumbing a not-demon check. | ||
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I'd like to hear an explanation for your bullshit score. Have you ever tested the results of something similar in any other game? If so, did it work well for finding scum? Do you have any reason to believe it will accomplish anything? How did you come up with the point values? Why do you think calculating these scores is in any way a good use of your time? It seems to me to only serve as a way to scum-hunt without actually doing so. Hell, a decent number of things in it are also subjective, letting you twist scores as you please. On January 14 2012 22:52 layabout wrote: ...?I will vote just before 8:00 KST. You will know why. On January 15 2012 06:47 syllogism wrote: Lol, you told me to vote RoL or I was getting lynched, what did you want me to do before the lynch? Build a case on someone that if I voted for you'd lynch me?He said he won't post until tomorrow, so basically HoD and RoL both gave excuses for not doing anything before the lynch. Likely because they feel it's wasted effort as they don't have towns interest in mind. 3.Grack (Leaning Town) He is not a demon. I am the sage, not seer. What is with people calling me the seer?HoD said that grack was not angel, but what if he is a demon?. He has been sheeping but, how he post's make me lean town. | ||
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On January 15 2012 19:38 syllogism wrote: Oh gosh, I'm not playing like I did in my first game ever where I led town to a loss? I wonder why? I already mentioned my first game is a shitty place to get meta on me. You're doing the same thing you did to risk to me right now, you have the conclusion already in your mind and are twisting everything I do to match it. Try rereading my filter with the perspective of "is busier than normal and is the sage", and see if my posts make more sense from that perspective or the "is the angel of death" perspective.HoD: I don't know why you bother arguing about your role as if you aren't the AoD, you will be cleared by the day post. You keep making excuses for your activity and still find yourself unable to call anyone scum. Are you going to be busy tonight? Can we expect you to make some real cases in which you actually reach a conclusion? You know something like this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12135649 I am the sage. I am no other role. I argue it because it is true. Now if you'll excuse me I have to read some filters to try to gauge who is most likely to be a demon and yet will not be stabbed in the face by the demon hunter, just in case RoL was telling the truth and I am not getting banished tonight. | ||
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On January 15 2012 21:43 layabout wrote: I am not quite sure what you mean... I said i would vote at that time I did not wish to vote earlier because the last early lynch ruined the atmosphere and killed activity. It also meant that by 8:00KST the lynch would almost certainly happen, which would give RoL plenty of time to help us if he wanted to. He didn't. Also why is HoD trying calling me scummy for using my 250th post to articulate a bullshit law? It's literally called "Laybout's Bullshit law". It is based entirely on Bullshit. I haven't used it to scumhunt whatsoever. But doing it lightens up the reading though filters process and allows me to highlight things i think players have done/said that are misleading bad or wrong etc... So you haven't used it to scumhunt at all, but you use it to help you find things you think are scummy that people have done while reading through their filters? Isn't that often called scumhunting? I'm a little confused by your statement here. Do you mean you haven't used the actual bullshit score at all, but you have used the process of looking for all the various points you outlined in it? Or I am misreading what you're saying here? I was also not aware that was your 250th post use, and you have mentioned it at least half a dozen times since first writing it, so I kinda figured you're doing something with it rather than just filling the thread with useless spam about it. | ||
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