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On January 05 2012 08:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On January 05 2012 08:26 Grackaroni wrote:
KK I'm back. I suggested the Bluelightz lynch and it looks like BH took a lot of shit because of me. No I took a lot of shit because of me. You didn't contribute to my Bluelightz idea at all, except to remind me he existed and is bad. If you like the bluelightz lynch, make a case and make your vote like a man. If you don't like it, don't do it. You make expand and defense it and you do so with vigor. Being like "hey guys should we pressure Bluelightz" and then apologizing for it doesn't help my case against him, and it doesn't help him either. I already explained this though he is my 2nd choice for a lynch over a lurker lynch. Both styles of play are anti-town but we should be lynching scum not just people who are being anti-town. Your case on BL does not prove that he is scum it just says that his actions are anti-town.
That's a fair point. I'm staying on BL though until I hear a better case.
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On January 05 2012 09:48 Erandorr wrote:
The last time I looked the game was full already, didn't even realize I am in this until now.
The biggest question for me right now is this:
Blazinghand are you WBGs Smurf? Or his long lost brother, maybe?
Yes clearly i'm WBG's smurf with thousands of posts
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On January 05 2012 09:49 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 09:48 Erandorr wrote:
The last time I looked the game was full already, didn't even realize I am in this until now.
The biggest question for me right now is this:
Blazinghand are you WBGs Smurf? Or his long lost brother, maybe?
Yes clearly i'm WBG's smurf with thousands of posts
This post is sarcastic. I am not his smurf. In case that's not clear.
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On January 05 2012 09:54 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 09:49 Blazinghand wrote:On January 05 2012 09:49 Blazinghand wrote:On January 05 2012 09:48 Erandorr wrote:
The last time I looked the game was full already, didn't even realize I am in this until now.
The biggest question for me right now is this:
Blazinghand are you WBGs Smurf? Or his long lost brother, maybe?
Yes clearly i'm WBG's smurf with thousands of posts This post is sarcastic. I am not his smurf. In case that's not clear. And the long lost brother part?
what's all this about >.>
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I've totally missed some inside joke haven't I
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On January 05 2012 11:42 Bluelightz wrote:Blast me with questions now im available again!  !
:/ it's not my responsability to make you do the right thing. At some point you will make a post with more than 2 lines, and when that day comes, the heavens shall be rent asunder in agony and anguish unlike any ever known before.
On January 05 2012 10:22 Refallen wrote:
Alright, I just woke up, first thoughts:
Why is everyone tunneling the lurkish newbie? He is sooooo likely to flip town instead of scum. Just look at Election Mafia, and XLVIII. In almost every case, the lurking newbie simply turns out to be just that, a newbie, which explains his low-posting. We definitely do not want to be wasting a lynch on him.
You claim "everyone" is tunneling the lurkish newbie, but I don't see anyone tunneling bluelightz. Like, I think that question is just... false. I have vigorously questioned him and voted him, but I don't think anyone else has done anything remotely like tunneling him.
On January 05 2012 10:22 Refallen wrote:Show nested quote +it might be good to kill him just because even if he is town he could be useless. This is never a good idea. Even a town who is completely non-contributing serves as an extra KP before LYLO, and for most newbie towns, they will be sheeping the case which most people are already on, in effect letting town have an extra vote. We should never ever ever kill town "because he's useless at it". I'm not sure what you're going on about having a solid case. How does one make a solid case on someone who has 3 posts and told us they're going afk for a bit on the very first day of the game?
Who are you quoting here? Cause I don't know who you're quoting. It looks like you might be quoting me but man would it kill you to say who you're quoting?
In any case, Bluelightz is still being terrible. Hopefully he'll pick up the pace presently. My goal isn't to kill him unless he's scum. However, his current posting habits are entirely unacceptable. I will not stand for this, I will not sit for it. Not on a plane or on a train or in a house or with a mouse.
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On January 05 2012 15:05 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
So how would people feel about lynching Palmar or Erandorr if they don't start posting more? Both have posted nothing of worth so far, Palmar was even active elsewhere on the mafia forum today, and both are known for doing very little as scum.
Demonstrate to me that Palmar and Erandorr also DON'T do very little on the first 24 hours of day 1 when they are town, and I'm game like venison
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On January 06 2012 02:23 Refallen wrote:
Syllo, and others, I don't see how showing angels were a bigger threat than demons would paint me as anti-town. Keep in mind that the context of the post when it was made; all of us were discussing the setup (mainly because it was start of day 1 and it served as a topic of discussion.) Obviously the point about us not being able to tell who was demon/angel makes the whole discussion basically practically useless, but it provided a topic for us to start talking about the game (if you want useless posts, see palmars kite claim)
With that said, I'll be reading through the thread tomorrow and posting who I think are suspicious. Right now at least my previous suspicion of Palmar has been assuaged at him posting and being his usual bullying town self.
You are aware that demons have the same effective KP as angels right ._. every other night they "kill" two town votes with corruption, one by a townie no longer being able to vote, and one by the demons getting an extra vote. Look, just lynch hella mafia and our problem here is solved anyways. More lynching more win.
On January 06 2012 01:28 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 00:03 Cwave wrote:
Posted earlier that i believe that he leans to much towards the Angel/Demon question and tries to steer away from Angels being our only threath. I think that goes without saying so it's just fluff to look like contributing by him. That and the focus on when it becomes night. Got told by Palmar that means nothing but i don't agree with that!
Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing? I know Palmar already asked this, but how am I different from BH, HoD or Refallen who all focused on Angels being the ones we should focus on.
What the dicks is this. You wanna go? I'll go. I'm fucking crazy I'll do it. "oh hey BH thinks we should focus on angels"
BULLSHIT. I'm calling you out right now for bullshit. QUOTE ME. Oh no wait you didn't cause you can't cause I didn't say we should be all up on angels business and not be on corrupted business.
"oh whats that blazinghand are you a sexy beast"
why yes yes I am let me share some quotes with you, discussing what I intially discussed coming into the game. BTW most of this stuff I was discussing was not exactly captain helpful but on the other hand I wasn't captian wrong here.
things I said:
On January 04 2012 16:02 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 15:34 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
If we lose our demon hunter or sage, then we need to start worrying about the demons more, and if we lose both then they become a threat on par with the angels, if not a greater threat. Now, I am not really sure how to distinguish between angel and demon rather than just town or not town until we get an angel or a demon to flip, but if you have a leaning toward one or the other, remember that killing angels is more important for now.
I'm guessing we'll just identify scum and kill them. Also, although angels have the KPs, it's possible to kill an angel while eliminating 0 kps or just eliminating their "semi" kp while conserving their masked KP. Demons are a much bigger threat long run with their lynch control.
"But wait blazinghand isn't this the same problem but with Demons clearly you are a moron"
Whoa whoa no need to be quick to judge, my friend. Check this out:
On January 04 2012 16:57 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 16:52 Refallen wrote:
Finally started! Hype!
My first thoughts on the setup;
Obviously, I think the best way to go about this game is to focus on killing angels in the early game. Once we get rid of the acolyte, the seer has an infinitely easier job in cleansing corruption because we can actually claim if we got corrupted and not get targetted right now as we get closer to the late game lynching demons obviously becomes more and more important, but town would have a huge benefit if we can reduce angel KP early on in the game, as this has a building effect of letting more townies live = demon corrupt has less of an impact. This sounds super correct. Once the Angel of Death or Angelic Acolyte is dead, claiming corrupted won't result in instant death since even if the Angelic Acolyte is still alive, at that point it'll be easier to just Slay rather than try to pick up a KP via Stalk.
"Blazinghand you are weird what is going on here"
Well, what's going on here is I'm trying to figure stuff out. In doing so I rhetorically pass across many positions before I come to one. For a while I was wondering if we should, if possible, be more worried about a particular faction. I thought it might be Angels, I thought it might be Demons.
"Man I totally thought I had something on you. I guess I'm just dumb-- you actually have a nuanced position on this issue, huh. "
Hey, no need to feel down on yourself. We all make mistakes. I think we can work together to do well here
"oh thanks man. Just out of curiosity, how would you characterize your strategy RE: angels and demons in an unequivocal way? just for future reference"
man you are quite the badger-er, imaginary person who talks to me, but I think this post best sums up my position:
On January 04 2012 16:02 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 15:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Well, helo guys anyway what do you think on how should we approach the day 1 lynch? step 1) find scum step 2) lynch them step 0 is get everyone to talk so we can get reads.
On January 06 2012 02:29 Zephirdd wrote:@layabout Show nested quote +Why would a player publicly state, or post to imply that they are bad at certain aspects of mafia? They do that because new players fear making mistakes. However it is NOT the best way to approach it. Just keep an eye on Dirkzor later on, and don't lower your expectations. AKA. ignore his "noob claim". Bluelightz looks weird, especially his wishywashness on who to shoot. The principal is the fact that he is a new player and held a tunneling pretty damn well. Too well, as if he had three heads instead of one. You get my point? And to be honest, no point in making that hugeass list if he wasn't going to say someone is scum. I found Palmar's game fun. layabout, who would you shoot if you had to, and why?
OOOH OOH PICK ME
I'd shoot dirkzor because he's BSing me.
Also being a noob doesn't make you bad-- i'm a noob and i'm incredibly good at mafia.
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Actually maybe I'd shoot Bluelightz. Yeah, actually, the more I think about it, the more I'd shoot Bluelightz as day-vig. All the waffling on this very same question by him is pretty aggravating. He must work in landscaping because he hedges a LOT
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On January 06 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:I would like to hear some thoughts on Grackaroni/tyrran/refallen, all of which I would be interested in lynching today. All have been around, posted nothing useful and I've small issues with the way they've approached the game so far. Grackaroni for going after bluelightz in a very questionable manner, Refallen for being supposedly very excited about the game and then disappearing (I also don't particularly like this post overall) and Tyrran for not reading in his haste to attempt to seem like he is contributing. Tyrran you have shown that you can be useful, do you intend to post anything at all today?
OK I'm gonna be real Grackaroni has mostly been chilling I believe *I* am the massive nerd baller who put together the sweet original "case" (in scare quotes because BL had made like 4-5 lines of text so far at the time) against BL. Grackaroni, on the other hand, was sitting around being like "man maybe someone should make this case" and generally not helping. That being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with the way I've presented my evidence, against BL. I think I've done well. I'm gonna poke through the Grack filter and see what I can fine.
(Grack n Cheese Grack and Field Grackalope Grackenspiel Heart a Grack Grack in Black oh the list goes on but Grackaroni is just such a good name)
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On January 06 2012 02:21 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +has he not read the tl commandments? 3. THOU SHALL THINK BEFORE POSTING 4. THOU SHALL CONTRIBUTE TO THE SITE TOWN and BH + Show Spoiler +5. THOU SHALL NOT SPAM THE MAFIA THREAD
Say what you want about spam, at least you don't have to open THREE spoilers in my posts to see this kind of BS. Cmon man wheres your respect at. I didn't even notice you calling me out the first time I read through this! Stop it with the spoilers it makes it hard to search your posts. Usually my strat is to open a filter then use Control+F to find stuff but if you put everything in spoilers I need to like go through and CLICK THEM ALL.
It's like a game of osu! but instead of fun pop music and video game music it's just the strumming of my tears hitting the desk as I click all these dumb spoiler tags.
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On January 05 2012 07:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 07:31 Blazinghand wrote:
There's also a way for greens to be anti-town, you know-- "non-contributing" can actually be worse then "useless" because it provides cover for reds to hide. Look, if I think a guy is anti-town I'm gonna try to lynch him. If he flips green, then so be it. If I could lynch a red guy instead I would gladly do that, but I really don't know until i see the color of his blood, do I?
Bluelightz deserves the case I have against him and deserves my vote. And if he fails to contribute and there are no other scum reads, and all he's doing is stopping by every now and then to say "brb" and generally confuse our blues, then he also deserves to die. Greens can be anti-town, but if you read them as green, you don't lynch them. If they're non-contributing, then you pressure them to contribute, like you're trying to do by voting Bluelightz. Then they should be forced to do something, and give you information from which to get a better read. We're in agreement about that. However, you have to do this with multiple players, because you still have to separate the greens from whatever scum might be hiding among them. In your case, you didn't sound like you really thought that he was scum, just that he was not contributing. That might be what's throwing me off about you, as in my experience, if someone wants to pressure someone to contribute, they just vote them, and ask them to contribute, not make a case and call them maybe scum maybe town and then say we should kill them either way. I'll help pressure, but I'm not going to vote him now, as he claims he went to bed two hours ago. If he's not back and posting by tonight, I'll vote him, until he gives us something.
So it's been like 20 hours Mr. Wiggles. Where you at homie. Here let me bring you up to date on the Bluelightz situation:
On January 05 2012 14:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay, ill just give my thoughts on LA-Lurkers
First,
I don't think that lynching lurkers benefit town in any way.
Usually it results in a townie lynched(BByte lynch in student mafia as an example)
Also,
Here's the list of people I want posting
xsksc
Cwave
risk.nuke
Errandor
That is all.
"Hey guys stop lurking plz"
Meaningless. Might be helpful, but meaningless.
In this serious of long posts he shows us he has no reads:
On January 05 2012 20:45 Bluelightz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Okay my thoughts on the lynch
I think we should avoid lynching a lurker unless we have no other option left.
Next, my reads on people
Blazinghand, Town: From the way he is posting I assume that he is Town
Cwave, Null: He only has 2 posts so I can't determine his allignment yet.
Dirkzor, Null: When comparing his post's from Mr.Wiggles Mini and Here he acts differently, In Mr.Wiggles Mini he analyzes
other people's post, etc that is town Dirk. But here, he discusses Strategy,etc but this is a new/ diffrent setup
"Blazinghand, my accuser, is clearly town. wink wink"
On January 05 2012 21:36 Bluelightz wrote:Okay here's the continuation of my reads + Show Spoiler +Errandor, Null: Lurking cannot determine alignment Grackaroni, Null: His posting contains his case against me and discussing about the lurkers in this game. HarbingerOfDoom, Null/Leaning Town: His posting contains discussion of strategy for town, Discussing LA-Lurkers Jackal58, Null: 2 posts since the start of the game cannot determine alignment. Layabout, Leaning Town: When I compare when Layabout was town in Student and if he is town here his posting style is much the same being aggressive and starting discussion Mr.Wiggles, Leaning Town: His posts while not alot has very good content. Palmar, Leaning Town/Null: His post's generate discussion and he starts discussion himself. RebirthOfLeGenD, Null: Lurking cannot determine alignment. Refallen, Null: His posts contain discussion about the lurkers,etc risk.nuke, Null: Has not posted alot syllogism, Leaning Town/Null: His post's generate discussion and he also shares his reads with others. Tyrran, Null: While lurking a little I can't determine his alignment xsksc, Null: Needs to start posting Zepphird, Null: His post's discuss about LA-Lurkers and strategy Okay I'm done if you have a question about my reads go for it ! Now, I have many town reads because this is day 1 and also people haven't posted much(including me) So, here it is!
"I have no idea what's going on in this game."
THE JOURNEY CONTINUES:
see, back in the old country we called Palmar "fire hydrant"... why did we call him this you ask? no, not because dogs piss on him, but because he puts on the pressure. Let's see how BL responds.
On January 05 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:Right now, since we have no real option I would like to lynch a lurker.
Hedge
On January 05 2012 21:59 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 21:49 Palmar wrote:On January 05 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:On January 05 2012 21:42 Palmar wrote:
So who would you lynch Bluelightz? Right now, since we have no real option I would like to lynch a lurker. Yes, but which lurker, and why? At this point, I would wait if xsk starts posting, risk.nuke too. But if they don't i'm all ears for lynching them I would lynch RoL right now because he hasn't posted anything when I searched for RoL post's in the thread I haven't found any post's by him
Hedge
On January 05 2012 23:38 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
So consider this scenario.
You are now a day-vigilante, if you kill a townie, you will lose the game for town immediately, so you have to shoot scum, everything is on the line. You HAVE to hit scum with the information you have now.
Would you shoot RoL? If I was in that situation then no. Because I lack sufficient information to make a correct move.
Hedge
On January 06 2012 00:20 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 00:19 Palmar wrote:
Me talking to syllo doesn't mean I don't want to hear your answer to my hypothetical question Bluelight. with the game on the line, and your gun loaded, who takes the bullet and why? Hmm, if it was that i'd re-evaluate everyone other then RoL and if i find someone else scummier then him I wouldn't shoot RoL but If I didn't find anyone scummier i'd shoot RoL.
Minor Hedge
On January 06 2012 00:27 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 00:21 Palmar wrote:On January 06 2012 00:20 Bluelightz wrote:On January 06 2012 00:19 Palmar wrote:
Me talking to syllo doesn't mean I don't want to hear your answer to my hypothetical question Bluelight. with the game on the line, and your gun loaded, who takes the bullet and why? Hmm, if it was that i'd re-evaluate everyone other then RoL and if i find someone else scummier then him I wouldn't shoot RoL but If I didn't find anyone scummier i'd shoot RoL. Wait, didn't you just read everyone's filter? What's there to re-evaluate? Do you not like your conclusion of everyone being null? Okay, First, I Assumed that I didn't do the analysis of everyone Next, I would re-evaluate all the possible things Lastly, even though I still have null reads I dont really trust my ability to analyze people's post's. Though if there we're more post's I could make a more accurate analyisis Now, my if I would answer your hipotethical situation given with the analysis I had I would shoot RoL.
Finally pushed out of hedge
On January 06 2012 01:14 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:12 Palmar wrote:On January 06 2012 01:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay Palmar, I'm about to sleep.So, ask me what you want to ask now :3 Well, I'm not sure what I should be asking you, apparently you're happy with fencesitting through the lynch, throwing your vote randomly against some lurker. Your entire scumhunting process is "This guy has not posted, so he must be scum". And I have a problem with that. Don't let me keep you up, there's still another day. You better come up with something better tomorrow, even if it's only a measurement of your neck. Okay i'll adress this post then go to sleep so, we have 2 days and 9 hrs from when I post this. Hopefully when I wake up I can make a more accurate analysis.
Bails
We are back in a classic situation of "terrible or scum? A GAME OF GROANS"
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In case it's not clear: Mr Wiggles cmon man where you at???
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Ok I hate to triple post but I only just remembered this: why are people saying i'm WBG's smurf??
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Well we both played in XLVII and i've been on TL for over a year so if I'm his smurf this is the most elaborate smurf ever.
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On January 05 2012 09:54 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 09:49 Blazinghand wrote:On January 05 2012 09:49 Blazinghand wrote:On January 05 2012 09:48 Erandorr wrote:
The last time I looked the game was full already, didn't even realize I am in this until now.
The biggest question for me right now is this:
Blazinghand are you WBGs Smurf? Or his long lost brother, maybe?
Yes clearly i'm WBG's smurf with thousands of posts This post is sarcastic. I am not his smurf. In case that's not clear. And the long lost brother part?
ERandorr I believe I have addressed your brotherly concerns. Still though, haven't heard from you in like a day and currently this quote-tree is the only posts you've made. where you at bro
On January 05 2012 09:00 Jackal58 wrote:
Palmar, Palmar. Where for art though Palmar?
He only disappears when he's scum.
You role Angel or Demon Palmar?
"hey he only disappears when he's scum"
*dissapears*
>.>
On January 05 2012 22:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
lol sorry, I actually just got home and forgot this game started. Initially I thought I'd just finish up Responsibility mafia then jump over here but that doesn't seem like its going to happen anytime soon. I just need some time to catch up.
Alright, so you've had about 6 hours to catch up. did you fall asleep or are you just trying to get us to forget about you
On January 05 2012 03:58 risk.nuke wrote:
Sup, I'll read the thread soon, I'll post when I have something to say.
##Vote: Risk.Nuke
You've got something to say now.
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EBWOP
On January 05 2012 03:58 risk.nuke wrote:
Sup, I'll read the thread soon, I'll post when I have something to say.
##Vote: Risk.Nuke
You've got something to say now.
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Welp.
._.
##vote Bluelightz
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On January 06 2012 03:45 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 22:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
lol sorry, I actually just got home and forgot this game started. Initially I thought I'd just finish up Responsibility mafia then jump over here but that doesn't seem like its going to happen anytime soon. I just need some time to catch up. Alright, so you've had about 6 hours to catch up. did you fall asleep or are you just trying to get us to forget about you
##Vote RebirthOfLeGenD
WELL?
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OK so in case it's not clear I'm going after RoL. I'd like to, well, have a filter from him to you know make a case and stuff but he's not posting and that makes me mad. Post or die
Hopefully this works as well as it did with risk.nuke
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