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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 05 2012 09:48 Erandorr wrote: The last time I looked the game was full already, didn't even realize I am in this until now. The biggest question for me right now is this: Blazinghand are you WBGs Smurf? Or his long lost brother, maybe?  + Show Spoiler + yes, blazinghand is my smurf | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On December 28 2011 15:40 Zona wrote: Question answering policy: The information provided in the game setup information and in your individual role descriptions has been deliberately written to be provide all the necessary information required to play the game. However, it is still possible, due to host error, that certain necessary information is missing or unclear. The host will respond to questions about the game in the following manner: Before roles have been distributed, players should ask their questions about the game publicly in the thread. If any questions do involve legitimately unclear, or missing and necessary information, the question will be publicly answered in the thread. Once the game begins (roles have been distributed), players should ask their questions about the game via PM. If any questions do involve legitimately unclear, or missing and necessary public information, the question will be publicly answered in the thread without identifying the person asking the question (the question may possibly be paraphrased). If any questions do involve legitimately unclear, or missing and necessary private information, the question will be privately answered by PM. In addition, all requests for replacement, concerns about rule violations or inactivity, and questions about possible ZBot errors should be submitted to the host via PM. The host will consider all in-thread posts as in-game posturing and will not acknowledge, respond, or react to any posts made in the thread. If ZBot ever publicly displays erroneous information, the host will make an announcement clarifying any errors once they are discovered. | ||
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Zona
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On January 05 2012 11:42 Bluelightz wrote: Blast me with questions now im available again! !:/ it's not my responsability to make you do the right thing. At some point you will make a post with more than 2 lines, and when that day comes, the heavens shall be rent asunder in agony and anguish unlike any ever known before. On January 05 2012 10:22 Refallen wrote: Alright, I just woke up, first thoughts: Why is everyone tunneling the lurkish newbie? He is sooooo likely to flip town instead of scum. Just look at Election Mafia, and XLVIII. In almost every case, the lurking newbie simply turns out to be just that, a newbie, which explains his low-posting. We definitely do not want to be wasting a lynch on him. You claim "everyone" is tunneling the lurkish newbie, but I don't see anyone tunneling bluelightz. Like, I think that question is just... false. I have vigorously questioned him and voted him, but I don't think anyone else has done anything remotely like tunneling him. On January 05 2012 10:22 Refallen wrote: This is never a good idea. Even a town who is completely non-contributing serves as an extra KP before LYLO, and for most newbie towns, they will be sheeping the case which most people are already on, in effect letting town have an extra vote. We should never ever ever kill town "because he's useless at it". I'm not sure what you're going on about having a solid case. How does one make a solid case on someone who has 3 posts and told us they're going afk for a bit on the very first day of the game? Who are you quoting here? Cause I don't know who you're quoting. It looks like you might be quoting me but man would it kill you to say who you're quoting? In any case, Bluelightz is still being terrible. Hopefully he'll pick up the pace presently. My goal isn't to kill him unless he's scum. However, his current posting habits are entirely unacceptable. I will not stand for this, I will not sit for it. Not on a plane or on a train or in a house or with a mouse. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
First, I don't think that lynching lurkers benefit town in any way. Usually it results in a townie lynched(BByte lynch in student mafia as an example) Also, Here's the list of people I want posting xsksc Cwave risk.nuke Errandor That is all. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On January 05 2012 15:05 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: So how would people feel about lynching Palmar or Erandorr if they don't start posting more? Both have posted nothing of worth so far, Palmar was even active elsewhere on the mafia forum today, and both are known for doing very little as scum. Demonstrate to me that Palmar and Erandorr also DON'T do very little on the first 24 hours of day 1 when they are town, and I'm game like venison | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
On January 05 2012 15:19 Blazinghand wrote: Demonstrate to me that Palmar and Erandorr also DON'T do very little on the first 24 hours of day 1 when they are town, and I'm game like venison Why limit it to the first 24 hours? I said if they don't start posting more. But, have some town PaImar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=87086 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=87086 And some town Erandorr: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284685&user=117613 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=117613 | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
Palmar wrote 1 trolling sentence and then nothing. Erandorr wrote 2 trolling posts and then nothing - only 6 hours ago though. RoL havent even posted yet. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 05 2012 14:27 Bluelightz wrote: Okay, ill just give my thoughts on LA-Lurkers First, I don't think that lynching lurkers benefit town in any way. Usually it results in a townie lynched(BByte lynch in student mafia as an example) Also, Here's the list of people I want posting xsksc Cwave risk.nuke Errandor That is all. I doubt anyone cares what you "want" with all the fluff you have been slinging into the thread from the start. Don't mistake different times zones with "lurking" please. I need to sleep or i get puffy eyes. On cases, my vote is reserverd for Dirkzor atm. In his filter he talks alot about Angels and how they are not the only threat to the town and that we should focus on Demons aswell. Good point but still the weight of his text is scewed towards not-town. On January 04 2012 17:46 Dirkzor wrote: Game on! This setup scares the living shit out of me. So many nuances to keep track of. Anyway... I agree that Angels appear to be strongest in the beginning with 1/2 KP. But what haven't been mentioned is that Angels can kill the demon for us aswell. If we lynch Angel of Death and Angelic Acolyte we will have to lynch/Demon hunter the Demons. Since I don't know the Demon hunter or how good that person is, he could just aswell kill 3 town people the first 3 nights which of course would not be very favourable for us. It basicly means we would need to do more correct lynches while having a good demon hunter that don't fuck us over with continously town kills. Demons also have the Twist ability which basicly makes one (1) of their members immune to night actions, rendering the demon hunter to be less useful. What i wanted to point out that even if we get 3 correct Angel lynches (unlikely) the first 3 nights. The demons are equally capable to fuck us over. That is why I think that killing any angel or demon is good. Not one over the other. If we knew which angel or demon, it would be a different matter. Above average focus on the day/night cycle. Can't wait for the night to begin Dirkzor? To use your powers? On January 04 2012 23:29 Dirkzor wrote: Day 1 seems to be longer then it should be? Zbot claims it ends in 3 days and 10h (aprox. as of writing) when the OP states: Palmar is just being useless by choice. New strategy from the vets? No cases, no effort, just kites? On January 05 2012 18:36 Palmar wrote: I claimed kite, that's pretty pro-town? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
Anyone talking about demon or angel strategy either is one, or is dumb. It's completely irrelevant to the goal at hand. The discussion about whether we should be lynching demons or angels is even dumber. We're going to lynch scum, I don't care what kind of scum, and thinking we can somehow figure out what type of scum multiple players are is just... derp. Bringing this up almost looks like testing the waters/reducing the threat level of one faction (your own). The discussion about how and when a seer should claim is also dumb. He doesn't need to claim if he doesn't suck. Any good Cop can just make a case once he has a guilty, or make a case to save an innocent, and push it. Knowing the player is scum makes writing the case so much easier. @Syllogism: You seem to be very much against lynching Bluelightz, do you want to explain to me why? @Cwave: Dirkzor's point is essentially correct, however, the fact that he felt the need to correct people by specifically demonstrating demons are no less threatening than angels, instead of just telling everyone to shut up and talk about something productive is however kinda scummy. The fact he's talking about the night cycle doesn't really say a lot. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
With your post you closed, or tried to close, some of the topics that we have without providing anything of your own. Oh there was a question to someone but thats it... And thanks for defending me? @Cwave You take the post out of context. The posts before that was all focusing on how the angels seems to be strongest and we should focus on them. That was just plain wrong as i pointed out. About nighttime: I've just found a difference between the OP and the actual end time of the day and can find no reason for this. I am still wondering how it came to be that way... | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 05 2012 19:02 Palmar wrote: @Syllogism: You seem to be very much against lynching Bluelightz, do you want to explain to me why? Because people were picking on him for hurrrr not being helpful as scum in Student mafia and then for not posting anything useful within the first three hours of the game, just like everyone else. If he doesn't start posting something useful he might be a decent lynch possibility, but not because he didn't do anything within the first 3 hours. However I still don't see how this is your town play so how about we still lynch you instead. Do you have an excuse for not doing anything yesterday? I've one excuse in mind but I would like to hear it from you. Other than that, for instance lynching risk.nuke http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=76576 appears to make much more sense given that we know how he plays town and this clearly isn't it so far. Grackaroni is another given that his only contribution so far has been to randomly tunnel bluelightz for the aforementioned awful reasons. The list of worthless people so far: RoL, risk.nuke, cwave, xsksc, Palmar, Jackal, Erandorr, bluelightz Out of those Palmar is the one least likely to be this inactive as town. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
But since you are around, please tell me, who would you lynch, right now? I will provide the same answer to you in turn. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On January 05 2012 20:07 syllogism wrote: Because people were picking on him for hurrrr not being helpful as scum in Student mafia and then for not posting anything useful within the first three hours of the game, just like everyone else. If he doesn't start posting something useful he might be a decent lynch possibility, but not because he didn't do anything within the first 3 hours. However I still don't see how this is your town play so how about we still lynch you instead. Do you have an excuse for not doing anything yesterday? I've one excuse in mind but I would like to hear it from you. Other than that, for instance lynching risk.nuke http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&user=76576 appears to make much more sense given that we know how he plays town and this clearly isn't it so far. Grackaroni is another given that his only contribution so far has been to randomly tunnel bluelightz for the aforementioned awful reasons. The list of worthless people so far: RoL, risk.nuke, cwave, xsksc, Palmar, Jackal, Erandorr, bluelightz Out of those Palmar is the one least likely to be this inactive as town. You see, I don't disagree with the notion that lynching Bluelightz is bad, I'm just not sure how well I like your reasons for it. I actually think it's unlikely he's scum, not based on the amount he posted, but rather based on what he has posted. I didn't actually want to post yesterday, the time I had to play mafia I spent finishing up resistance, decided to rather just read the thread this morning. It's interesting that you seem to want to paint the picture that I'm always active and useful in the first part of day 1, when you know from experience that I do often ignore the initial discussion. Do you have a specific reason for this? between risk.nuke and Grackaroni, I'd much rather have a look at Grack, since I'm actually willing to wait for risk's initial contribution. I would actually have no problem with lynching people like RoL or Jackal day 1. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On January 05 2012 20:12 syllogism wrote: Palmar: do you really believe that "cluttering up the thread" is an issue so far in this game? Do you think it is ever? It's not the amount, but the content that I have a problem with. What I don't like is people discussing trivial things which anyone can take any side on, no matter their alignment. An example on this would be a discussion on how blue roles should act in a normal game, since that simply is just people giving their opinion on something that has no relevance to the game at hand. | ||
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