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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 05 2012 15:03 GMT
#301
Posted earlier that i believe that he leans to much towards the Angel/Demon question and tries to steer away from Angels being our only threath. I think that goes without saying so it's just fluff to look like contributing by him. That and the focus on when it becomes night. Got told by Palmar that means nothing but i don't agree with that!

Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:04 GMT
#302
On January 05 2012 23:57 syllogism wrote:
It's a really stupid hypothetical as you don't actually have to shoot anyone and we do have to lynch someone. How about just saying who you would lynch and why, much better. Why would you lynch (shoot) Dirkzor, cwave?


I created the hypothetical because I find it very interesting that Bluelight seems to think it's not one and the same question. I think in almost every situation you'd want to lynch and shoot the same person, because every lynch should always be used on the person most likely to flip scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:05 GMT
#303
On January 06 2012 00:03 Cwave wrote:
Posted earlier that i believe that he leans to much towards the Angel/Demon question and tries to steer away from Angels being our only threath. I think that goes without saying so it's just fluff to look like contributing by him. That and the focus on when it becomes night. Got told by Palmar that means nothing but i don't agree with that!

Got any cases yourself yet Syllo which are worth sharing?


What sets dirkzor apart from the other people talking about the difference in threat levels between angels and demons?
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 05 2012 15:06 GMT
#304
On January 06 2012 00:00 Palmar wrote:
After Bluelight's latest list of only town/null reads and his wishy-washy-ness with accusing people I might actually just off him. I was kinda leaning maybe noob-town on him, but I don't like his last few posts.


Do you think he would have made that long list of reads as scum? While his observations may be wrong, making the list requires reading the thread relatively carefully. It's possible, but I interpreted that as a slightly leaning town move from. I don't really like his "If I was in that situation then no. Because I lack sufficient information to make a correct move" post though as that sounds like a bit forced.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:14 GMT
#305
On January 06 2012 00:06 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 00:00 Palmar wrote:
After Bluelight's latest list of only town/null reads and his wishy-washy-ness with accusing people I might actually just off him. I was kinda leaning maybe noob-town on him, but I don't like his last few posts.


Do you think he would have made that long list of reads as scum? While his observations may be wrong, making the list requires reading the thread relatively carefully. It's possible, but I interpreted that as a slightly leaning town move from. I don't really like his "If I was in that situation then no. Because I lack sufficient information to make a correct move" post though as that sounds like a bit forced.


Reading the thread "carefully" has become much easier since the filter button. What strikes me as odd in it is that he managed to apparently read the filter of 17 people, and he didn't find one scum in them. he found 14 null tells, with 3 people in layabout and wiggles and of course blazinghand who seem to be his strongest townread.

If his list actually had any content in it I would consider it a pro-town move, but really, when you break it down, all he said is he has a slight town read on wiggles and layabout, and an even slighter townread on a few others. It has no conclusions at all.

Now, I know this doesn't apply because of BL's low experience, but do you normally think that someone hopping into the thread, calling his main accuser town, and saying almost everyone else is a null-read is something a townie would do?

I'm starting to think we should lynch BL.
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 05 2012 15:16 GMT
#306
I don't know, maybe I'm biased because my early reads are all "leaning town" or nothing at all and I'm very careful with my scum reads.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:16 GMT
#307
Do you think it's normal for a new player to calmly respond to tunneling, and figure out that while the accuser (Blazinghand) is wrong, he is wrong in the right way, so he must be town?

I think being able to tell when you're being tunneled by mafia and when you're being tunneled by town is actually kind of a hard thing to do.
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 05 2012 15:18 GMT
#308
You are right, his reaction to the pressure has been weirdly calm.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:19 GMT
#309
Me talking to syllo doesn't mean I don't want to hear your answer to my hypothetical question Bluelight. with the game on the line, and your gun loaded, who takes the bullet and why?
Computer says mafia
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 05 2012 15:20 GMT
#310
On January 06 2012 00:19 Palmar wrote:
Me talking to syllo doesn't mean I don't want to hear your answer to my hypothetical question Bluelight. with the game on the line, and your gun loaded, who takes the bullet and why?


Hmm, if it was that i'd re-evaluate everyone other then RoL and if i find someone else scummier then him I wouldn't shoot RoL but If I didn't find anyone scummier i'd shoot RoL.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:21 GMT
#311
On January 06 2012 00:20 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 00:19 Palmar wrote:
Me talking to syllo doesn't mean I don't want to hear your answer to my hypothetical question Bluelight. with the game on the line, and your gun loaded, who takes the bullet and why?


Hmm, if it was that i'd re-evaluate everyone other then RoL and if i find someone else scummier then him I wouldn't shoot RoL but If I didn't find anyone scummier i'd shoot RoL.


Wait, didn't you just read everyone's filter? What's there to re-evaluate? Do you not like your conclusion of everyone being null?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:24 GMT
#312
In addition, Neither risk.nuke nor RoL have posted anything in the game yet. What makes you think RoL is more likely to be scum than risk.nuke?
Computer says mafia
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 05 2012 15:27 GMT
#313
On January 06 2012 00:21 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 00:20 Bluelightz wrote:
On January 06 2012 00:19 Palmar wrote:
Me talking to syllo doesn't mean I don't want to hear your answer to my hypothetical question Bluelight. with the game on the line, and your gun loaded, who takes the bullet and why?


Hmm, if it was that i'd re-evaluate everyone other then RoL and if i find someone else scummier then him I wouldn't shoot RoL but If I didn't find anyone scummier i'd shoot RoL.


Wait, didn't you just read everyone's filter? What's there to re-evaluate? Do you not like your conclusion of everyone being null?


Okay,

First, I Assumed that I didn't do the analysis of everyone

Next, I would re-evaluate all the possible things

Lastly, even though I still have null reads I dont really trust my ability to analyze people's post's. Though if there we're more post's I could make a more accurate analyisis

Now, my if I would answer your hipotethical situation given with the analysis I had I would shoot RoL.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 05 2012 15:30 GMT
#314
On January 06 2012 00:24 Palmar wrote:
In addition, Neither risk.nuke nor RoL have posted anything in the game yet. What makes you think RoL is more likely to be scum than risk.nuke?


I think RoL is more scum because he didnt post anything before now and risk.nuke "promised"more content but, if he didnt fullfill the promise I would consider that he is scum also.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 05 2012 15:33 GMT
#315
Palmar: do you think wishy washyness is a good scum tell in a setup with two scum teams? Did you read his student mafia filter where he randomly calls people scum, as scum?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:53 GMT
#316
On January 06 2012 00:33 syllogism wrote:
Palmar: do you think wishy washyness is a good scum tell in a setup with two scum teams? Did you read his student mafia filter where he randomly calls people scum, as scum?


yes, I followed student mafia to the end.

Even if he somehow convinces me he's town, I'm forcing him to play better. Nothing bad can come out of this.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 15:55 GMT
#317
On January 06 2012 00:30 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 00:24 Palmar wrote:
In addition, Neither risk.nuke nor RoL have posted anything in the game yet. What makes you think RoL is more likely to be scum than risk.nuke?


I think RoL is more scum because he didnt post anything before now and risk.nuke "promised"more content but, if he didnt fullfill the promise I would consider that he is scum also.


Alright, so at gunpoint, your highest possibility of flipping scum is RoL, based on the fact that he has not posted.

That's very... interesting. You have little enough faith in your actual reads that you would risk a game to kill off someone who you have nothing to determine his alignment on.
Computer says mafia
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 05 2012 16:07 GMT
#318
Okay Palmar, I'm about to sleep.So, ask me what you want to ask now :3
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 05 2012 16:12 GMT
#319
On January 06 2012 01:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay Palmar, I'm about to sleep.So, ask me what you want to ask now :3


Well, I'm not sure what I should be asking you, apparently you're happy with fencesitting through the lynch, throwing your vote randomly against some lurker.

Your entire scumhunting process is "This guy has not posted, so he must be scum". And I have a problem with that.

Don't let me keep you up, there's still another day. You better come up with something better tomorrow, even if it's only a measurement of your neck.
Computer says mafia
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
January 05 2012 16:14 GMT
#320
On January 06 2012 01:12 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 01:07 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay Palmar, I'm about to sleep.So, ask me what you want to ask now :3


Well, I'm not sure what I should be asking you, apparently you're happy with fencesitting through the lynch, throwing your vote randomly against some lurker.

Your entire scumhunting process is "This guy has not posted, so he must be scum". And I have a problem with that.

Don't let me keep you up, there's still another day. You better come up with something better tomorrow, even if it's only a measurement of your neck.


Okay i'll adress this post then go to sleep so, we have 2 days and 9 hrs from when I post this.

Hopefully when I wake up I can make a more accurate analysis.

Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
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