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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:49 GMT
#573
Because Ver would defiantly put a duplicate of the same role in a game....

Wana test? I'll shoot you tonight if you wish, if you're town, we both die, if your mafia, you're probably too scared to face my shot
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:49 GMT
#574
That was too GM
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:52 GMT
#580
If I do end up being lynch, GM has some explaining to do. By explaining I mean shooting.

So, I'll put up the Who is telling the truth plan

We have two people who claim to be suicidal vigs, night 1, both people will shoot someone, right before day 2 is called, they will announce in thread.

If the person they shoot is still alive, they will have lots of explaining to do
If the person they shoot is town, they are lying
If the person they shoot is mafia, they are probably town.

Even if one of the two people gets lynched (me), I advise you all to carry out the plan, with the remaining person (GMarshal). I can prove to you all my innocence tonight, just let me get my hands on the gun
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:53 GMT
#582
On December 22 2011 11:51 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 11:44 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 10:41 Jackal58 wrote:
On December 22 2011 10:38 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 22 2011 10:35 Jackal58 wrote:
Are they both scum Kita? or just LSB? Others have been willing to vote elsewhere but I'm imploring them to consolidate on LSB. If somebody needs to take responsibility for this lynch I will do so. I am going to push everybody to LSB. Even you Kita. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. If you guys feel a need to exact retribution from me if I'm wrong so be it. But I'm taking responsibility. Vote LSB. Don't split the lynch. I did everything I could to make sure that happened in 48. You're not emulating me are you Kita? Vote LSB.


I'm not sure. I'm leaning scum on GM and uncertain/null on LSB. It's not that I want to split the lynch, but I have to push for the guy that I think is more likely to flip scum. Would you be willing to vote GM instead of LSB if the votes were available?

Nope. Not today. Today is LSB. LSB gives us info regarding people that defended him hard and soft. Your vote on GMarshall could be seen as an omgus. It can also be seen as useless. Vote LSB with me Kita.

Just saying, this is one of the most scummy posts I've seen in a while. You should know very well from experience, hey I've played with you in those games, that defending someone hard and soft is not necessarily mean someone is mafia or town.

I know. And when you were town this is not how you played.

My green meta is different from my vig meta. See Ace's game.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:54 GMT
#583
Isn't this pretty obvious guys? If two vigs counterclaim, they shoot each other
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:56 GMT
#586
On December 22 2011 11:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
No LSB, you fucking flip today bro. Stop trying to derail the wagon in the eleventh hour. You've had all fucking game to play with us - don't pretend to start now.

This is an example of someone pretending to tunnel. Any reasonable townie can see merit in sorting out everything tonight.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 02:57 GMT
#588
I like sheth :D
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:00 GMT
#593
On December 22 2011 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sheth I swear to Christ if you don't put your vote back on LSB something horrifying is going to happen to you overnight.

Scumslip? I think yes
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:02 GMT
#595
On December 22 2011 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sheth I swear to Christ if you don't put your vote back on LSB something horrifying is going to happen to you overnight.

Actually this is good enough to
##:unvote
##:Vote VisceraEyes

He's blue claiming or red claiming. Blue claiming is unlikely because this is a stupid reason to blueclaim.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:03 GMT
#597
Formatting
##Unvote: SamuelLJackson
##Vote: VisceraEyes
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:10 GMT
#607
On December 22 2011 12:04 bumatlarge wrote:
I like GM's clam much more then I like LSBs. I like that we have a day 1 CC scenario. I think it's pretty clear that leaving them both alive is not an option. Chances are, some ambiguous garbage will happen and we will say "should have lynched you yesterday."

We take our (at worse) 50/50 for a day 1 lynch and play the game from there. There isn't much to dispute.

Leaving both counterclaims alive for the night is the best scenario, because there is no garuntee that there is only 1 vig. Once I flip town, you guys are going to waste day two's lynch on Gmarshall, who may actually be telling the truth.

There are two many assumptions coming in here to assume a 50/50 scenario. Assumption 1) Similar Roles have the same names 2) There is only one Vig.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:11 GMT
#608
On December 22 2011 12:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why the fuck are people unvoting LSB? He got counterclaimed. He got counterclaimed by the second scummiest person of the day, which means that it is practically guaranteed that one of them is scum.

We kill LSB today, and if he flips town and if a scum is not shot tonight then GM dies tomorrow. Of course, if a scum dies then GM is spared.

If GM is town he's obviously shooting tonight. We give him the target, he claims it before the night is over. If he's wrong, he dies, if he's right, we get a scum.

This is a no lose situation, either way we get a scum, so lynch the fuck out of LSB.

Yeah? And why not prefer my plan and have us both shoot someone? It's even better for the town.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:14 GMT
#615
On December 22 2011 12:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
Oh I should mention, GM is clear if LSB is scum.

So we lynch LSB. If LSB is town GM is not clear and we make him shoot.

You are completely ignoring the possibility of a bus. Which is one of my favorite mafia plays. See Harry Potter Mafia.

Just saying, your plan is flawed. Follow mine.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:18 GMT
#621
On December 22 2011 12:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:14 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
Oh I should mention, GM is clear if LSB is scum.

So we lynch LSB. If LSB is town GM is not clear and we make him shoot.


You are completely ignoring the possibility of a bus. Which is one of my favorite mafia plays. See Harry Potter Mafia.

Just saying, your plan is flawed. Follow mine.


someone tell me what the fuck that is if that isn't claiming scum?


No I'm saying your idea is stupid because
1) Even if I flip it promotes no resolution on GM.
2) It completely ignores the fact that there might be two vigs
3) It automatically assumes that I am town

The only good thing your idea does is waste a town KP. Which surprisingly is very favorable to the mafia.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:20 GMT
#623
On December 22 2011 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'd say leave them both alive, and only let them shoot each other. Clearly the one who really was vigilante prevails. Or if there both vigilante they both die. o.o; This seems like a solid idea to me. And we could use our lynch today on someone else.


Sheth we're freaking out because there's no way to mobilize all the votes. If we falter here, a no-lynch occurs. This is the worst possible case scenario because that gives us no information either way. Please, you're bucking the wisdom of 9 of the best players in TL Mafia, plus me. Get back on board guy. This is NOT an order, this is a plead. PLEASE don't let them no-lynch us. If you need an example of why this is bad for town, please go take a gander through XLVIII...scum won because we no-lynched town to death.

A lynch still occurs. You will see two dead bodies tomorrow. One is my hit, the other is Gmarshal's
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:21 GMT
#626
On December 22 2011 11:52 LSB wrote:
If I do end up being lynch, GM has some explaining to do. By explaining I mean shooting.

So, I'll put up the Who is telling the truth plan

We have two people who claim to be suicidal vigs, night 1, both people will shoot someone, right before day 2 is called, they will announce in thread.

If the person they shoot is still alive, they will have lots of explaining to do
If the person they shoot is town, they are lying
If the person they shoot is mafia, they are probably town.

Even if one of the two people gets lynched (me), I advise you all to carry out the plan, with the remaining person (GMarshal). I can prove to you all my innocence tonight, just let me get my hands on the gun

Quote to bump
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:22 GMT
#628
On December 22 2011 12:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:18 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:14 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
Oh I should mention, GM is clear if LSB is scum.

So we lynch LSB. If LSB is town GM is not clear and we make him shoot.


You are completely ignoring the possibility of a bus. Which is one of my favorite mafia plays. See Harry Potter Mafia.

Just saying, your plan is flawed. Follow mine.


someone tell me what the fuck that is if that isn't claiming scum?


No I'm saying your idea is stupid because
1) Even if I flip it promotes no resolution on GM.
2) It completely ignores the fact that there might be two vigs
3) It automatically assumes that I am town

The only good thing your idea does is waste a town KP. Which surprisingly is very favorable to the mafia.


that's not a bus!

a bus is one scum killing another scum, his teammate. So why are you telling me I'm ignoring the possibility of a bus?

The only way your wagon can be a bus is if you are scum and at least one or more of the people on your wagon is scum.

that still isn't answering any of the flaws. Basically what you are doing is sticking your thumbs in your ears and going "I can't hear you I can't hear you"

I'll flip green, and you'll pass it off as "oh LSB played bad" rather than realizing how stupid of a play it is to let me die.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:28 GMT
#633
On December 22 2011 12:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:22 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:18 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:14 LSB wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
Oh I should mention, GM is clear if LSB is scum.

So we lynch LSB. If LSB is town GM is not clear and we make him shoot.


You are completely ignoring the possibility of a bus. Which is one of my favorite mafia plays. See Harry Potter Mafia.

Just saying, your plan is flawed. Follow mine.


someone tell me what the fuck that is if that isn't claiming scum?


No I'm saying your idea is stupid because
1) Even if I flip it promotes no resolution on GM.
2) It completely ignores the fact that there might be two vigs
3) It automatically assumes that I am town

The only good thing your idea does is waste a town KP. Which surprisingly is very favorable to the mafia.


that's not a bus!

a bus is one scum killing another scum, his teammate. So why are you telling me I'm ignoring the possibility of a bus?

The only way your wagon can be a bus is if you are scum and at least one or more of the people on your wagon is scum.

that still isn't answering any of the flaws. Basically what you are doing is sticking your thumbs in your ears and going "I can't hear you I can't hear you"

I'll flip green, and you'll pass it off as "oh LSB played bad" rather than realizing how stupid of a play it is to let me die.


why do you keep avoiding the question?

You essentially just claimed scum by saying I'm ignoring the possibility of a bus. Fuck that, you're dying for sure now.


Lol, just saying, didn't you say that I'm SK? Due to a quote endquote scumslip?

All I am saying is that it doesn't matter how you put it, your idea is bad even if I am mafia. And of course, it is even worse if I'm town
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:41 GMT
#638
On December 22 2011 12:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Hmmm, that would be a neat punishment, to punish voting based on two people having slightly different roles, I'll give that LSB. But our lynch was founded before that. This discussion seems like more of an after-thought. We can review GM's case after you die. I can't really pin anything wrong with his claim. But I still don't believe you, and would be pretty surprised to see you flip blue.

Yeah, now that you point it out, it does seem pretty likely that this was intentional. I'll give a green read to GMarshall simply because lynching based off of role names is stupid and it feels like something that Ver would want to punish
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 22 2011 03:42 GMT
#639
On December 22 2011 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:
If LSB and GM are indeed the same role, it doesn't make sense for them to shoot each other. That's a waste of a vig shot. If that is the route town decides to take, we should have one shoot the other and one shoot the scummiest player of our choice. That way we have the same result, with a net gain of one vig shot.

I'm fine with that, I'd rather not shoot GM because I think he's green.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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