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On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote: yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster. I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh. Would you have an issue with me being elected to one of the positions?
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On December 20 2011 07:31 Cwave wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: 5. Comprissent 9. Cwave 1. MarserBlood 2. nyczbrandon 15. evantrees 24. cascades
these people need to commentate on the following things:
each other and who they find the scummiest, the optimal plan for the election/following night and the Greymistlynch. If you're town, do that, please! Hate reactive posting like this but hej..... I agree on the greymist lynch. He also seems to have given up and just argueing instead of really defending himself. As for this list, marserblood got replaced and okinda gave me a town feel. Nyc comes across scummy due to his scummy voting. Nyc i voted for last day cause i agreed on the case people made agaonst him. i called out profb for vote dancing after which on the end, he flipped as scummy. Rest is either inactive or a bit flimsy in the posting. furthermore i think risk is just highstrung and a bit adhd, doesnt make him scummy. Refallen i still find scummy for his error on voting twice for the same. Zentor is prob just newby so wouldnt class him as scum as i did in the beginning when he semiclaimed and such. Your top 3 or preferably 4 scum reads and some explanation of them, go! And don't spend much time on discussing Greymist, I want to hear new things.
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On December 20 2011 08:34 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:23 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote: yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster. I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh. Would you have an issue with me being elected to one of the positions? no but zeks is my number one. @risk, i dont think you're scum, but i got this from zeks: Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:42 zeks wrote:On December 14 2011 10:32 ProfessorBadass wrote:On December 14 2011 10:27 zeks wrote:On December 14 2011 10:24 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: yeah, i see the arcto ability.
okay. who did radfield want lynched and who did arcto want lynched? Radfield has been highly suspicious of ProfessorBA Arcto has been suspicious of Sheth The timing of when ProfessorBA came out to run and the fact that he got so much more active during this time period concerns me Voting deus Go look through past games and find where supersoft has -ever- been killed as a Townie. If he is Town then you are giving minimal benefits whereas if he is Mafia then you are fucking the Town. High risk low reward. You have not said a word against me before but now all of a sudden you think I am Mafia because Radfield said so? If I am Town then you ensure I cannot get shot, if I am Mafia then I am putting myself under serious pressure by being in office. Yeah I haven't been that active over the past few days because I've been playing DotA 2 nonstop with Mig. Mig hasn't been online at all this past day so here I am. 79.) supersoft - Vanilla TownieKilled night 2 XLVII As I said the timing of when you came out to run is fishy and how suddenly you've already gathered a couple votes As you also said pardoner is a strong role for scum to have. Although he is putting himself under high pressure its high risk high reward. Pardoner can defend himself with words but no way for town to stop a pardoner with pardoning (although we can lynch the pardoner collectively there is no way to stop the action from being done). It is safe to assume Arc is probably silenced for the duration of night Your point of restricting voting to only the hydras I agree with totally Nisani wagon gaining momentum? he pointed out that Curu was lazy/lying. You don't do that to your teammates. You give them time to correct themselves and you PM them such a thing. Especially when a fairly new player sees this out of a veteran who is also in his scumteam. Blargh. iphoneposting etc. zeks is town. Pfft, I was calling out the professor before it was cool
On December 13 2011 17:12 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On a note related to lacking activity: + Show Spoiler +On December 12 2011 17:34 ProfessorBadass wrote: Why am I running for Mayor?
I am infinitely smart, suave, charismatic, modest, able, active, amazing, modest, and honest. And Erandorr's not bad either.
Anyone who has played with me will know I give my all in regards to activity and scumhunting every game that I am in. I will never avoid the game or lose interest. My biggest pet peeve ever is Townies who expect to be mindlessly carried or don't keep an active interest in the game.
Am I a better player than syllogism/Palmar/Radfield? Probably not. But I would not say I am bad either; in nearly all games where I was Town I have rooted out at least one scum and played a part in Town victories. I believe I am more than capable of contributing to Town and I know that I am Town; I do not know that about them.
In regards to Arctocod and Radfield, I would very strongly prefer Arctocod simply based on meta. Palmar's scum play is relatively disinterested and obvious and syllogism's consists of never posting anything. Radfield is a different story though, he twirled the Town around his fingers in LOTR Mafia, securing multiple mislynches and leading the Town by the nose. He would have led Mafia into a crushing victory had a third party not taken him out of the game during the night.
Having only two real candidates for mayor/pardoner makes me uneasy, but I even more dislike the half-assed mayoral campaign that promises activity and follows it up by being inactive. Can any player who has played with them (Curu/Erandorr) before give some insight as to how active they generally are as town versus scum? And to Curu/Erandorr, any particular reason for the lack of activity? And why did you run for mayor and then put no effort into it?
On December 14 2011 09:57 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: My best guess would be this is some kind of scum power-role that made them (Arctocod) ineligible for office. Since my original candidate of choice is no longer eligible, I will be voting for Deus for pardoner as I think they are likely to be targeted early on, and I have more of a town leaning on them than I do on ProfessorBadass, whom I am still slightly suspicious of.
/Harbinger /hipster But I agree with you that Zeks is very likely to be town.
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On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote: As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith? If he flips town? I don't think that would be particularly implicating of anyone. If he flips red Sheth will look really bad having defended both the professor and greymist. As for who to go after next, I am not decided on that yet. I would really like to hear more from any of those in the sub-3-pages of filter club. And by hear more I mean hear their top scum reads with explanations.
On December 20 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote: nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure This is who I want dead. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice. Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player. Lurks Admits to sheeping radfield When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said. Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes. Let's not worry about potential scum that hasn't posted in the thread for the past 4 days, mmk? I'm sure he is well on his way to being modkilled or replaced. If he is replaced and not mod-killed, we can deal with it then, sound good? His last post in the thread: nyczbrandon United States. December 16 2011 11:56. Posts 108
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On December 20 2011 09:20 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote: As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith? If he flips town? I don't think that would be particularly implicating of anyone. If he flips red Sheth will look really bad having defended both the professor and greymist. As for who to go after next, I am not decided on that yet. I would really like to hear more from any of those in the sub-3-pages of filter club. And by hear more I mean hear their top scum reads with explanations. On December 20 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote:On December 16 2011 11:56 nyczbrandon wrote:On December 16 2011 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote: nyc, here's a homework assignment:
Go look through zeks' posts, and as you're reading them, consider "Would scum say this?" and write the answer that comes to your head, and give the reasons why you think that.
Then, when you're done with that, go through Sheth's posts and do the same thing.
Then, when you're done with that, go through risk.nuke's posts and do the same thing.
Then, after you've done all 3 of us, come back and post your findings.
If you post ANYTHING that even RESEMBLES a defense of your lurking again, I'm going to insta-vote you. Stop lurking. Start helping. Or hang by the neck until dead. okay sure This is who I want dead. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684Earlier on in day2 i posted some thoughts about him. But Im going to sum them up real nice. Doesnt take a stance on anything at all unless forced to by another player. Lurks Admits to sheeping radfield When he does post his "opinions" they are skeleton cases in which nothing is really said. Now lets look at the above quote. Remember when Viscera posted this? thats right a freaking while ago. This is also the final post in nycz's filter. thats right, After Viscera died, his pressure was gone, forgotten. So why post about it again? He has had more than ample time to respond, so why hasnt he? a townie would have at least responded to some of it, to get his opinion out there. Instead he has not. Because he is a lurker, he is going to post his thoughts after this post, as the pressure is now back on, But i still want to emphasis how much time he has had to honor VE's wishes. Let's not worry about potential scum that hasn't posted in the thread for the past 4 days, mmk? I'm sure he is well on his way to being modkilled or replaced. If he is replaced and not mod-killed, we can deal with it then, sound good? His last post in the thread: nyczbrandon United States. December 16 2011 11:56. Posts 108 Wait what? not worry about scum who have not posting in the thread? As far as I'm aware the goal of the game is to kill scum, if you think i have found one then why leave it? Because 2 things: 1) I don't think he is scum, as I have posted about before. 2) Modkills kill people just as well as lynches, and discussing someone who can't defend himself at all (by being completely afk from the thread) doesn't really help town discussion.
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@Jitsu I would like to hear your current top 3 or 4 scum reads, with explanations please. Please focus on giving new details to any case you may be making, rather than rehashing things people have already brought up.
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On December 20 2011 09:48 nyczbrandon wrote: Sorry, was busy this weekend. Went to a christmas party o Saturday and had to do all my homework on Sunday, I will try to fulfill VE's last wishes Well how about that, maybe he will be around to defend himself. Carry on Greymist.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote: How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle.
If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability.
Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have?
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On December 20 2011 10:33 Radfield wrote:That's an interesting claim Greymist. Barring any counter-claim it's pretty rock solid. If Greymist is lying please counter-claim. Scum will be knocked down to one KP, and I can protect you. In the event that greymist is town, we have some work to do. Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote: yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster. I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh. I'm fine with either zeks or risk.nuke, as I think both are town. TotallyNotTwoPeople I am less sure on right now. Why you no trust me? :-(
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On December 20 2011 11:00 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 10:53 Radfield wrote:On December 20 2011 10:51 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 10:42 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2011 10:23 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 20 2011 09:22 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 09:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: i got to sleep now. I want you to read your own filter... after that, you decide for yourself if your scumplay this game was good enough to survive the day3lynch :-(
(no it wasnt)
:D
cu tomorrow The fact that you think my scum would be this bad is insulting. wohoo. I knew i would get to read something if i look into the thread one last time :-P can you please roleclaim? If you have a super-awesome townrole, I want to hear this role now, because 1 hour before the lynch will be too late. Right now I don't see any possibility that you survive this if not something incredible happens Don't worry, GreYMisT has a plan. First the roleclaim. I am a Medic. I protected Arctocod night 1, and recieved a PM that my protection was succsesful. I protected Radfield night 2, assuming that Giygas would give the medic power to someone not being roleblocked, and recieved no PM. Therefore we know that Arcto was indeed double stacked that night. Now the rest of this is up to you guys. please for the love of God go read my filter from MLP and/or LotR mafia. In both games I was blue as well (DT). Next Read my filter from Steamship, the game in which i was most recently red. Read them? good. Now for the thinking part. Try to find ways that my scum play is different than my play here, and then try to find how my blue play is different than my play here. Im going to spoiler my own reasons why my play in steamship differs from here. No cheating! + Show Spoiler + When I played scum in steamship, I had to deal with a very town palmar, just as scum had to in this game. Notice how instead of agreeing and disagreeing/changing my mind with lynches a lot like I have been in this game, I am instead usally the first or second person to start a bandwagon, and see it through to the end. In steamship I fostered a bad town atmosphere not by causing chaos or turning the town against palmar, but by simply letting chaos reign, letting all of the newer players turn against each other so palmar could not exert control. In this game I have been what incognito described in his postgame writeup of PYP:I as assertive, and doesnt like when there is something wrong with the satus quo. This is evident in the way I continuously push people for reasoning and to explain their actions. Finally, in steamship i recieved accusations similar to here. here is how i responded to Palmar's final accusation in that game: + Show Spoiler +On November 30 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 07:16 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote:On November 30 2011 06:51 Lemonwalrus wrote:On November 30 2011 06:47 Palmar wrote:On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote: How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound?
Is it paranoid of me to ask that question?
Someone hold me. explain please, you knew this had nothing to do with me or my role at this point. a joke? Not a good one...but there you have it. That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. What does this post say? thats right, pretty much nothing. its goal was to not give the town a damn thing. You see when i had that much focus on me as scum, I was pretty prepared to die. I had already given zephridd full instructions on how to win after I got lynched. My only goal in that post was to not give town anything in the event of my death. What have i done this game? continued to explain my reads and pressure people. Hopefully that does the trick. I will be unvoting you then I suppose. If a counter-claim comes up, we'll deal with it then. Thank you for not waiting until the last minute and leaving us scrambling for a new target/wondering if the counterclaim is actually just afk at the end of the day cycle. If we hear no counterclaim, should we elect greymist police chief to protect him from roleblocks or kp this night? Although this idea is less good if using his medic ability would make him unable to use the watcher ability. Does using the police chief watcher ability prevent you from using other abilities you might have? i would not recommend electing me. All that would do is focus the mafia target on a single person, instead of spreading out to 2 people and forcing the mafia to choose. I'm not sure I follow, what do you mean? Basically the way I see it,If i get elected into the position of watcher, all scum have to do is RB you or me, and then double stack one of us, probally me as both my powers are known. However if we continue with the election as planned, scum now have to either RB me, you, or the watcher. You are the Police Chief! On night three, you may perform a watcher check on target player and are immune to all night actions for that cycle.
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Refallen As you said, we need another lynch....what are your top 3 scum-reads currently, and why? Please try to include new content in support of your suspicions.
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On December 17 2011 05:53 GiygaS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 05:52 Arctocod wrote: Sheth for the record you are going to be lynched next once Curu flips red I don't agree with this in the least.
On December 20 2011 15:20 GiygaS wrote: Just as something people may want to know if also going for Sheth, his apostrophe in his name is the one on the tilde key on most qwerty keyboards. If you don't know what I mean, just copy+paste his name for the vote. I'd like a thorough explanation of this. The vast majority of his posts between these two posts of yours were Sheth defending Greymist.
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On December 20 2011 03:07 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I'd recomend we choose between the 2 people we elect. Hopefully Deus-ex and TNTP and Radfield and the watcher chooses based on their best geuss on who to watch. That way we can hopefully save those that we elect and Radfield our mayor. On December 20 2011 09:14 Liquid`Sheth wrote: ##Vote: Zeks I like explanations and transparency. Please provide some on this.
On December 20 2011 13:37 Refallen wrote: Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.
Day 1 - zeks - MrZentor (claimed blue?) - prplhz (VT)
And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.
Day 2
- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town) - really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)
All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person. Will you be voting for Sheth to be lynched then?
@nyczbrandon If you enjoy not being lynched and also enjoy town winning, you should post some of your scum reads, with explanations. We haven't heard nearly enough from you.
On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote: As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Can you give some more details on your case on refallen? Prof already had a minimum of 4 town votes on him and at most 1 scum vote (5 and 0 if you consider giygas town), why would they need a fellow scum member to last second vote him when the next highest contender was at 1 vote?
On December 20 2011 11:17 GreYMisT wrote: Well fuck thats good.
I would love to get elected, but there is another aspect to my role that would make this plan less than effective. If you want me to fully claim it I will, but understand that nothing i have said so far is a lie. I am indeed a medic and I protected the targets I said.
Hmm...I'm having trouble imagining what it could be to make you any bigger of a target to scum than you already are with being an outed medic, and if possible I would like you in the police chief spot, but I will leave it to your discretion if you want to reveal any more details, and if you say you do not wish to be elected, then I will not elect you.
I think that is poking enough people for one post. Must...resist...urge...to triple post...
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Nope, I fucked up, triple posting, awwwwww yeah.
On December 20 2011 16:47 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote: As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there. Can you give some more details on your case on refallen? Prof already had a minimum of 4 town votes on him and at most 1 scum vote (5 and 0 if you consider giygas town), why would they need a fellow scum member to last second vote him when the next highest contender was at 1 vote? You meant the lynch vote if I am not mistaken, my bad. Either way, nisani was replaced and then flipped town, and spaackle had more than enough votes on him to ensure his lynch without refallen as well, so the point about not needing him to vote-switch in any way still stands.
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On December 20 2011 16:50 Refallen wrote: @Totally
I'm not sure yet; Sheth has been active in defending himself, and he hasn't given me outright mafia tells like Curu, so I'm looking for better lynch targets. What do you think of Sheth? I think he has been taking posting/active = town, lurking/inactive = scum a bit too far without considering the motivations for posts enough. I would not oppose his lynch, but I would also not actively push for it.
Sheth, you mentioned you are keeping notes on people, so hopefully this request won't take you too long...you seem to enjoy calling people town, but for all the fuss you make over people not having good cases, I have yet to see you post a good case on why somebody is scum. I'd very much appreciate it if you would do so sooner rather than later.
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On December 21 2011 04:34 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 04:34 zeks wrote:On December 21 2011 04:32 evantrees wrote:Slightly relevant picture I found amusing. On December 21 2011 04:06 MrZentor wrote:On December 21 2011 03:46 GreYMisT wrote:On December 21 2011 03:45 MrZentor wrote:On December 21 2011 03:25 zeks wrote: evantrees needs to announce something Could mafia make another fake announcement? If they could, couldn't they use it to clear their mafia buddy? Sure, that is if curu can announce from the dead There is no chance they have more than one mafia with the announcer role? I'd say pretty small given we know the other 4, and it seems kind of weak when it has been seen once already. 17. bumatlarge (Replaces DropBear) godfather dead 25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)the Mafia Minister of Propaganda . dead someone roleblocker someone attorney Kind of feel the last one will end up as something in a similar vein as this, Politician. Twice per game, you may buy target player's vote and dictate their day cycle and election cycle vote. The results of your action will not be reflected until the final vote count. well we know they had an ability to remove Arc out of the election day 1 - im thinking that is an individual ability rather than a team one Unless of course Eii was the one that removed arctocod Possible, but this post makes me feel like he didn't use his power, and that scum used theirs:
On December 14 2011 10:57 Eiii wrote: Given that this is ELECTION MAFIA, the whole step-down thing is definitely a red power. Last night I wouldn't have been comfortable with either deus or prof in an elected role, but now that prof is actually posting I'm going to be voting for him. I'm kind of undecided on the lynch, but it's not going to be on zentor. unvoting and rereading.
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On December 21 2011 05:12 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: Has anyone else except zentor the ability to extend the day?
evantress is town Greymist is town zentor is town if noone counterclaims.
3 scummembers left, one is RB for sure, one is goon for sure. ______
i suggest we massclaim right now? Radfield, your opinion please. Mafia had a godfather, presumably this means we have some form of detective role that isn't just a tracker (that one already flipped). I'd rather have scum have to make a decision between shooting town leaders/"confirmed" town and trying to find that person.
That being said, if anyone has a role identical or nearly identical to giygas, I would love to hear a claim.
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On December 21 2011 02:03 evantrees wrote: ##Vote: Comprissent
On December 21 2011 02:01 MrZentor wrote: ##Vote: Nyczbrandon What the fuck are these? Explain your votes people.
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On December 20 2011 22:04 Cwave wrote:- DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oldie
- TotallyNotTwoPeople Oldie
Deus and I are both "oldie"? What does that even mean?
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On December 21 2011 06:09 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 12:05 nyczbrandon wrote:zeksHis decisivness when accusing ProfessorBadass throughout the game seemed pro-town to me. He posted how he was suspicous of the timing of when ProfB ran for election as it was after Arctorod had been removed from the election. Would also try to connect the last minute vote switch of Spaackle to election of ProfB. Seemed even better when ProfB turned up as scum. If he were scum, he would not prompt a DT on a fellow mafia since he is not GF and will not come out as a different role. Posts a seemingly convincible post about his suspicions of Sheth's play when he is a newcomer. Though he had posted a quote from the wrong player and was misinformed about other parts of Sheth's post. To me, this is a mistake made by zeks' suspicions of Sheth rather than intentionally using someone elses' post to accuse Sheth. Continues to press Mr.Zentor on his alignment after revealing his role to everyone despite being apparent to others that it was pro town and not a scum ability. Had backed up his Day 1 lynch rather than bandwagoning like many. I think scum in a situation where there was bandwagoning would try to conceal themselves and just vote without any words. Two bad calls on xsksx and Eiii. He believed they were scum or suspicious, but turned up blue. In the end, i think that he is blue. Accused ProfB and could of been a factor that led to him breaking down and giving up. Backs most of his suspicions with reasoning. I'm going to switch my vote to nyczbrandon for this I've already been established as town by the majority of the players This was totally unnecessary and I feel like he's trying to bait a reaction to see whether I have a role or not Will be gone for the next couple hours, no guarantees if I can make it back before lynch on time. Hopefully I'll remember to check my iphone while I'm out. He was doing what he promised he would 4 days ago (or is it 5 days now?).
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