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On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null. In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do. Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark. On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night? "Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town." + Show Spoiler +[B]On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B] Breaking News!
Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason. probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible. Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup. + Show Spoiler +
not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp. He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible. In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known. I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum. Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
That was 5 hours AFTER the post that I quoted, which is where the flip-flop occurred and where you were "not completely sold on the risk being town".
In that time both me and Arctocod had made it clear we felt risk.nuke was a poor lynch.
Who do you think is likely scum? Still the three you previously posted about?
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On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. can you explain this please? I think you are scum. On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum  On December 18 2011 23:53 Arctocod wrote:
I agree with greymist being a good suspect Radfield. On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.
will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends.
And I obviously believe Greymist to be scum as well.
So, Greymist, I look forward to hearing reasons why all of us are wrong if you have them.
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On December 20 2011 04:44 Radfield wrote:
That was 5 hours AFTER the post that I quoted, which is where the flip-flop occurred and where you were "not completely sold on the risk being town".
In that time both me and Arctocod had made it clear we felt risk.nuke was a poor lynch.
Who do you think is likely scum? Still the three you previously posted about?
Yes, I expect to find scum in those three players.
Also when you said "public roleclaim" in bold earlier, was that clairifying my misunderstanding of the secretary of defense? or were you actually asking me to roleclaim?
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I just voted and I am in the middle of writing a post but It will be delayed about 1-2 hours.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Also, read that post you just quoted:
First you state your read has been reduced to near null. But then you go on to mention a number of points in favor of him being town. Reading that makes it seem like you conclusion is he is town.
However you finish with this line:
I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum.
Your point on him being scummy is that you "don't agree" with how he has been scumhunting. Not that he has acted scummy. That is your only point you make against him, and it is the excuse you give for not having a town read. I don't agree with the way many people scum-hunt, but that has NO BEARING on my read of them.
That whole post reads like you think risk.nuke is town, yet don't want to come out and say it. Your only excuse for not having a town read is you "don't agree" with his scumhunting. That is scummy.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 04:49 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 04:44 Radfield wrote:
That was 5 hours AFTER the post that I quoted, which is where the flip-flop occurred and where you were "not completely sold on the risk being town".
In that time both me and Arctocod had made it clear we felt risk.nuke was a poor lynch.
Who do you think is likely scum? Still the three you previously posted about? Yes, I expect to find scum in those three players. Also when you said "public roleclaim" in bold earlier, was that clairifying my misunderstanding of the secretary of defense? or were you actually asking me to roleclaim?
I was clarifying, but you are welcome to claim as well if you like.
I gotta run.
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On December 20 2011 04:49 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. can you explain this please? I think you are scum. Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 23:53 Arctocod wrote:
I agree with greymist being a good suspect Radfield. Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.
will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends. And I obviously believe Greymist to be scum as well. So, Greymist, I look forward to hearing reasons why all of us are wrong if you have them.
What was the point of all the quotes? for empahsis? to make me scared?
My only defense is what I have given thus far. a lot of people are citing me changing my mind as the biggest evidence that I am scum. The question is do you believe this was done in a scummy or a town way? A scum player would change their mind to avoid suspicion and to not stand out. I have been doing it based on what i think is right, with complete disregard to how it would make me look.
On another note Im going to vote for you to ensure you get the runner up, as I see most are voting for deus atm.
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On December 20 2011 04:52 Radfield wrote:Also, read that post you just quoted: First you state your read has been reduced to near null. But then you go on to mention a number of points in favor of him being town. Reading that makes it seem like you conclusion is he is town. However you finish with this line: Show nested quote +I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum. Your point on him being scummy is that you "don't agree" with how he has been scumhunting. Not that he has acted scummy. That is your only point you make against him, and it is the excuse you give for not having a town read. I don't agree with the way many people scum-hunt, but that has NO BEARING on my read of them. That whole post reads like you think risk.nuke is town, yet don't want to come out and say it. Your only excuse for not having a town read is you "don't agree" with his scumhunting. That is scummy.
By "don't agree" I was refering to the way he continuously tried pushing for my lynch all game long, with 0 reasoning to back it up, and didn't give any when asked for it. That type of scumhunting I do find scummy.
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Also when you spend 2-3 pages pushing me I at least expect a vote on me.
come on.
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On December 20 2011 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Also when you spend 2-3 pages pushing me I at least expect a vote on me.
come on.
On December 19 2011 15:16 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
##Vote: GreYMisT
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On December 20 2011 04:58 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 04:49 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. can you explain this please? I think you are scum. On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum On December 18 2011 23:53 Arctocod wrote:
I agree with greymist being a good suspect Radfield. On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.
will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends. And I obviously believe Greymist to be scum as well. So, Greymist, I look forward to hearing reasons why all of us are wrong if you have them. What was the point of all the quotes? for empahsis? to make me scared? My only defense is what I have given thus far. a lot of people are citing me changing my mind as the biggest evidence that I am scum. The question is do you believe this was done in a scummy or a town way? A scum player would change their mind to avoid suspicion and to not stand out. I have been doing it based on what i think is right, with complete disregard to how it would make me look. On another note Im going to vote for you to ensure you get the runner up, as I see most are voting for deus atm.
The point was largely for emphasis, and partially because you were claiming the case on you was weak and was just gut feelings and meta. So, a question for you, if syllogism, palmar, radfield, and supersoft all thought someone was scum, and palmar/syllogism were confirmed town, radfield very likely town, and supersoft you were leaning town on as well, what odds would you give on the person they were all accusing actually being scum? In general of course.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
jaj22 has replaced MarserBlood. Say hi!
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On December 20 2011 05:10 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Also when you spend 2-3 pages pushing me I at least expect a vote on me.
come on. ?
That was directed at radfield.
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On December 20 2011 05:14 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 04:58 GreYMisT wrote:On December 20 2011 04:49 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. can you explain this please? I think you are scum. On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum On December 18 2011 23:53 Arctocod wrote:
I agree with greymist being a good suspect Radfield. On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.
will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends. And I obviously believe Greymist to be scum as well. So, Greymist, I look forward to hearing reasons why all of us are wrong if you have them. What was the point of all the quotes? for empahsis? to make me scared? My only defense is what I have given thus far. a lot of people are citing me changing my mind as the biggest evidence that I am scum. The question is do you believe this was done in a scummy or a town way? A scum player would change their mind to avoid suspicion and to not stand out. I have been doing it based on what i think is right, with complete disregard to how it would make me look. On another note Im going to vote for you to ensure you get the runner up, as I see most are voting for deus atm. The point was largely for emphasis, and partially because you were claiming the case on you was weak and was just gut feelings and meta. So, a question for you, if syllogism, palmar, radfield, and supersoft all thought someone was scum, and palmar/syllogism were confirmed town, radfield very likely town, and supersoft you were leaning town on as well, what odds would you give on the person they were all accusing actually being scum? In general of course.
What sort of loaded question is this? the question isnt what I believe, I know they are wrong.
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On December 20 2011 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Also when you spend 2-3 pages pushing me I at least expect a vote on me.
come on.
Ah, I see radfield didn't vote you.
Also, I expect a post very soon from refallen. This doesn't cut it for an explanation of his vote, especially given that he is another suspect: For now, I'm leaning towards lynching Greymist.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 05:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Also when you spend 2-3 pages pushing me I at least expect a vote on me.
come on.
What's your point here? Is that supposed to discredit me?
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Hi everyone, I'm subbing in for MarserBlood. I've been following this game but not that closely, so recommendations for filters I should check out in detail are welcome.
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On December 20 2011 05:46 jaj22 wrote:
Hi everyone, I'm subbing in for MarserBlood. I've been following this game but not that closely, so recommendations for filters I should check out in detail are welcome.
Personally, I'd recommend all of them.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 05:46 jaj22 wrote:
Hi everyone, I'm subbing in for MarserBlood. I've been following this game but not that closely, so recommendations for filters I should check out in detail are welcome.
Nice to have you around. I recommend reading the thread in it's entirity, or at least from Day 2 onward.
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