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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 20 2011 05:03 GreYMisT wrote: Also when you spend 2-3 pages pushing me I at least expect a vote on me. come on. Additionally, would having my vote on you make my case any stronger? Does my case lose credibility because I haven't put my vote down? Are you really so exasperated that this is what your defense boils down to? | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 20 2011 05:57 Radfield wrote: Additionally, would having my vote on you make my case any stronger? Does my case lose credibility because I haven't put my vote down? Are you really so exasperated that this is what your defense boils down to? Not a defense, just a side comment. @ Deus I would suggest nycz. | ||
Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
On December 16 2011 08:44 GreYMisT wrote: Ok here are my top three at the moment 1, nyczbrandon: Filter link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=138684 Notice in his posts how nothing constructive happens, almost everything is asking a question. He is very passive follows the majority for most of the day. He is also very careful to not take a stance on anything really, and only backs up other people, or makes side comments. at the moment I am much less sure on the ones below, have to keep reading. 2.Evantress http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=78429 Does a better job of trying to appear town than nycz, but most of his posts are empty, consider the following 2: Both of these really have no need to get posted, the second one in particular is just a list of the people who voted for who, something we all can get accsess to. Also he showed a lack of caring who got into office/the lynch day 1. executing a RNG on both initally, and after being told not to still showed some minor apathy for it. When I am reading Evantress's posts, im seeing a whole lot of nothing, disguised as something. 3. Cascades http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=53202 this post in particular turns me on: he said that this is a post both town and scum radfield can make...yes those are the 2 aleingments in the game. The goal of this post while reading it from a mafia perspective seem to be to seed distrust against rad, while preparing for the Arc withdrawl later. This post srikes me as fishy as well, He says if he could repeat last night he would lynch spaakles again. wtf? the only purpose this serves to say is to try to defend your actions by appealing to the sense that you are a towine out crusading against what is wrong and illogical in the world. I see no town motive for this post as well. Those are my scum reads atm radfield, and i would like to see more posts out of them as they have been rather absenst this cycle. I really think Cascades is a better choice then nycz or evantrees, but I don't like evantrees either. I just find this last post of Cascades really fishy after re-reading it. | ||
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Refallen
452 Posts
Also, I don't see how suspecting Radfield = anti-town, as Greymist tried to make a case on. | ||
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Jitsu
United States929 Posts
On December 20 2011 06:10 Refallen wrote: I really disagree about Cascades, I actually have a pretty strong town read on him. Him saying that he would lynch spaakles if first night repeats itself is, imo, not scummish in any way. Rather, it is a townie sentiment, that even though he flipped blue, at that time, he was probably the best lynch available to us. Also, I don't see how suspecting Radfield = anti-town, as Greymist tried to make a case on. I suspected Radfield in the very beginning of the game, and GreYMisT tried to make some points on me. That reminds me. How come whenever Comprissent is pressured, he feels obligated to post, yet when he's not the object of conversation, he doesn't post. Ever. Hmmmm. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
I also really wanted to post on page 100.  | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
9. Cwave 1. MarserBlood 2. nyczbrandon 15. evantrees 24. cascades these people need to commentate on the following things: each other and who they find the scummiest, the optimal plan for the election/following night and the Greymistlynch. If you're town, do that, please! | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:05 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Whats your case against me right now Zentor? I know there is one, I'm just saying, whats yours? Why lynch grey and not myself for instance? Good question! I don't really have a case against you, everybody else does, and I agree with them. Well, currently Grey looks a lot more scummier than you do, and lynching Grey will give clues on whether you are mafia or not, so it would be much better to lynch him first! If you need specifics, prompt me, and I will be glad to spend a lot more of my time engaging in conversation about why it's much better to lynch you than Grey! | ||
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Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:13 MrZentor wrote: Good question! I don't really have a case against you, everybody else does, and I agree with them. Well, currently Grey looks a lot more scummier than you do, and lynching Grey will give clues on whether you are mafia or not, so it would be much better to lynch him first! If you need specifics, prompt me, and I will be glad to spend a lot more of my time engaging in conversation about why it's much better to lynch you than Grey! Please someone tell me I am imagining this post, and this is not actually one of the reasons I'm being voted for. | ||
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote: yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster. I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
Care to defend Greymist with something other than "he made this one post I really liked"? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh. Would you have an issue with me being elected to one of the positions? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Beeing in favor of electing the professor+ Show Spoiler + On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote: I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote: I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. He tries to make a case on Jitsu but for some reason he doesn't ask professor whom he belives is town and should be a good scumhunter for thoughts, he only asks random townies. (That is weird) No, really. Townies ask who they belive are their strongest townreads for thoughts, scum asks random townies to gain towncred with the illusion that they are discussing. He votes for MrZentor who I am sure is town because of his abillity. On December 14 2011 11:46 GreYMisT wrote: Sheth, compare this from newbie mini mafia: (also day 1/2 if i recall) + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote: I'm 100% sure Toad is scum. So to defend myself from your lines of nonsense, the wall of text where it's hard to even know who said what. You don't like the way I post? Starting the game of with some humor, so people wont get bored and hence less active. How is that anti-town play. The second one is just a small pressure post aswell as the followup. Nothing more. The fact that you question everything I do while other people are doing the same thing just sugest you have targeted me instead of targeting scummy behavior and that is not town play. Narrowing one person down and claiming everything he does is scummy by angle it or WIFOM is not town play, especially since you're only targeting me because I am the one trying to expose you. Then you're questioning my activity, trying to make a case of as if it mattered why I couldn't be at a computer long enough to analyze and write. What exacly did I have thrown against me? I am looking through the thread right now and the only thing I find is things you have said which is just omgus. You're just playing on the fact that there are so many people who doesn't go back and read but just swallows what you angle to be true. Townie priority list. 1. Establish your innocence. 2. Support the right townies. 3. Vote properly. 4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies. 5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread. There is no reason for a townie ever to angle anything, that is not their job because it doesn't help them to find scum, only scum ever tries to angle things. Ofcourse if I call out that nobody is supporting the one beeing lynched then I become his suporter, I waited as long as I dared to do it because I wanted to see if anyone else would and still have time to avert the lynch. In the second last of my quotes it's really interesting to see which part Toad choose to answer. Ignoring what was clearly the point of that post. I'll come back to this in a second. I am telling you to explain, the only evidence you have presented on Skrammen is he is scum because I am defending him. You're responses are pretty much You are scum, I have explained YOU ARE SCUM!! What I want is something concrete, like this. Toad is scum because he is inconsistent to what he says, changes his mind, angle things and when asked for reasoning why he thinks in a certain way he is having a hard time answering something that should be as simple as saying the truth. to this. see why we are a bit concerned? He tries to discredit me with some weak metagame analysis. he is comfortable with lynching nisani (ViceraEyes) On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote: Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null. In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do. He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible. In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known. I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum. Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now. When he says he is changing his mind about me he first calls me null-read and then he says he thinks I am town. This entire post is an attempt to appease me. Greymist says this, to try and win me over. Since Townie A who gets called a townie gets less suspicious of Person B who said he says he thinks Townie A is town. The part involving me is just some weird singled out points to disguise the real purpose of the post. The point of this post was to discreetly call me town so I would stop tunneling him. You might say that he would do that even if he was town because nobody wants to be tunneled but no, this only makes sense if he KNOWS I am town. Because if I were scum when this post got put put under the magnifying glass those weak points could get him lynched ergo you don't do this unless you KNOW. He is reluctant to lynch the professor Here we're at it again, he keeps beliving the professor is town but his posts doesn't show any real strenght behind his belifes, they are just there when it's voting time. Conclusion: Mafia | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: 5. Comprissent 9. Cwave 1. MarserBlood 2. nyczbrandon 15. evantrees 24. cascades these people need to commentate on the following things: each other and who they find the scummiest, the optimal plan for the election/following night and the Greymistlynch. If you're town, do that, please! Hate reactive posting like this but hej..... I agree on the greymist lynch. He also seems to have given up and just argueing instead of really defending himself. As for this list, marserblood got replaced and okinda gave me a town feel. Nyc comes across scummy due to his scummy voting. Nyc i voted for last day cause i agreed on the case people made agaonst him. i called out profb for vote dancing after which on the end, he flipped as scummy. Rest is either inactive or a bit flimsy in the posting. furthermore i think risk is just highstrung and a bit adhd, doesnt make him scummy. Refallen i still find scummy for his error on voting twice for the same. Zentor is prob just newby so wouldnt class him as scum as i did in the beginning when he semiclaimed and such. | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:13 MrZentor wrote: Good question! I don't really have a case against you, everybody else does, and I agree with them. Well, currently Grey looks a lot more scummier than you do, and lynching Grey will give clues on whether you are mafia or not, so it would be much better to lynch him first! If you need specifics, prompt me, and I will be glad to spend a lot more of my time engaging in conversation about why it's much better to lynch you than Grey! Just i think you are most likely town, you post this? Dear lord.... | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:31 Cwave wrote: Hate reactive posting like this but hej..... I agree on the greymist lynch. He also seems to have given up and just argueing instead of really defending himself. As for this list, marserblood got replaced and okinda gave me a town feel. Nyc comes across scummy due to his scummy voting. Nyc i voted for last day cause i agreed on the case people made agaonst him. i called out profb for vote dancing after which on the end, he flipped as scummy. Rest is either inactive or a bit flimsy in the posting. furthermore i think risk is just highstrung and a bit adhd, doesnt make him scummy. Refallen i still find scummy for his error on voting twice for the same. Zentor is prob just newby so wouldnt class him as scum as i did in the beginning when he semiclaimed and such. Your top 3 or preferably 4 scum reads and some explanation of them, go! And don't spend much time on discussing Greymist, I want to hear new things. | ||
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