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On December 20 2011 07:18 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 22:57 Radfield wrote:
yeah, I'm pretty sure dues-ex is town. So I'd say him as Police Chief and risk.nuke as Prankster. I am not sure about risk though... I just filtered him and I saw that he asked the medics to protect Dropbear (=bum=GF) because he's a good player night1. Later on he admits, that he never played with DB before... (or at least saw him in action) I'd prefer zeks tbh.
I've played with dropbear, I did have the assumption that he was good at mafia, actually I still think he is. It was just some other people beeing pissy and butthurt and said he wasn't. I thought he had a blue powerrole and that's why he was sitting quiet.
Now please, start looking at professor badass filter. If what you read there doesn't convince you I am town I don't know what will.
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On December 20 2011 07:16 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Please do. Prompt Prompt.
I have to go for a while and will be way too tired when I get back to explain in full, so I will summarize quickly and try to get the full report tomorrow.
Grey led the town to elect PBA. He hasn't really helped the town at all. He has committed several mistakes(such as thinking secretary of defense was a public role check) that led to time being wasted explaining his mistake to him. This all makes him pretty suspicious.
You look pretty suspicious, because you seem to be illogical(not that I am) and tried to defend the godfather without any real reason. Now you are defending Grey, and it seems you don't have any real reasons behind your thoughts.
This means if Grey flips scum, it will confirm that you are a scum and should be lynched.
If Grey flips town, it will make you seem a less guilty.
We could kill you, but Grey seems more suspicious; I don't think we have a good enough case for your death.
Yet.
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On December 20 2011 07:26 risk.nuke wrote:GreymistBeeing in favor of electing the professor+ Show Spoiler +On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote:
@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.
Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.
@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT? I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote:On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote:
@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.
Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.
@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT? I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. He tries to make a case on Jitsu but for some reason he doesn't ask professor whom he belives is town and should be a good scumhunter for thoughts, he only asks random townies. (That is weird) No, really. Townies ask who they belive are their strongest townreads for thoughts, scum asks random townies to gain towncred with the illusion that they are discussing. He votes for MrZentor who I am sure is town because of his abillity. Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:46 GreYMisT wrote:Sheth, compare this from newbie mini mafia: (also day 1/2 if i recall) + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm 100% sure Toad is scum.
So to defend myself from your lines of nonsense, the wall of text where it's hard to even know who said what.
You don't like the way I post? Starting the game of with some humor, so people wont get bored and hence less active. How is that anti-town play.
The second one is just a small pressure post aswell as the followup. Nothing more. The fact that you question everything I do while other people are doing the same thing just sugest you have targeted me instead of targeting scummy behavior and that is not town play. Narrowing one person down and claiming everything he does is scummy by angle it or WIFOM is not town play, especially since you're only targeting me because I am the one trying to expose you.
Then you're questioning my activity, trying to make a case of as if it mattered why I couldn't be at a computer long enough to analyze and write. What exacly did I have thrown against me? I am looking through the thread right now and the only thing I find is things you have said which is just omgus. You're just playing on the fact that there are so many people who doesn't go back and read but just swallows what you angle to be true.
Townie priority list.
1. Establish your innocence.
2. Support the right townies.
3. Vote properly.
4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies.
5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread.
There is no reason for a townie ever to angle anything, that is not their job because it doesn't help them to find scum, only scum ever tries to angle things.
Ofcourse if I call out that nobody is supporting the one beeing lynched then I become his suporter, I waited as long as I dared to do it because I wanted to see if anyone else would and still have time to avert the lynch.
In the second last of my quotes it's really interesting to see which part Toad choose to answer. Ignoring what was clearly the point of that post. I'll come back to this in a second.
I am telling you to explain, the only evidence you have presented on Skrammen is he is scum because I am defending him. You're responses are pretty much You are scum, I have explained YOU ARE SCUM!! What I want is something concrete, like this.
Toad is scum because he is inconsistent to what he says, changes his mind, angle things and when asked for reasoning why he thinks in a certain way he is having a hard time answering something that should be as simple as saying the truth. to this. On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. can you explain this please? I think you are scum. see why we are a bit concerned? He tries to discredit me with some weak metagame analysis. he is comfortable with lynching nisani ( ViceraEyes) Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null. In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do. On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark. On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night? "Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town." + Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
Breaking News!
Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!
Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.
and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason. probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible. Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup. + Show Spoiler +
not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp. He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible. In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known. I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum. Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now. When he says he is changing his mind about me he first calls me null-read and then he says he thinks I am town. This entire post is an attempt to appease me. Greymist says this, to try and win me over. Since Townie A who gets called a townie gets less suspicious of Person B who said he says he thinks Townie A is town. The part involving me is just some weird singled out points to disguise the real purpose of the post. The point of this post was to discreetly call me town so I would stop tunneling him. You might say that he would do that even if he was town because nobody wants to be tunneled but no, this only makes sense if he KNOWS I am town. Because if I were scum when this post got put put under the magnifying glass those weak points could get him lynched ergo you don't do this unless you KNOW. He is reluctant to lynch the professor Here we're at it again, he keeps beliving the professor is town but his posts doesn't show any real strenght behind his belifes, they are just there when it's voting time. Conclusion: Mafia
Ok, I'll try and show you that this isn't a really good read on him.
For the first post in the end when we had no time to think it over and Arcto had went to sleep I thought it was a perfectly logical conclusion considering we wanted it for the protection and he was a veteran hydra so seemed smart from a townie point of view. He then changes to just saying any of the 3 hydras and that Arctocod was his favorite choice.
2nd : I've asked random townies all of the time. All Arctocod did was ask random townies. Its how you begin to get reads on everyone is by getting them to post. I'd think its more of a scum tell if he only asked ProfBA for what he thought on these matters.
The 3rd point is tough. He did change completely on risk.nuke, but I think most of us did as well. For a while there in day2 he was our lynch target I think. He said some really crazy things and just acted really aggressive with no proof.(Risk did I mean) And I think Grey's reasoning for why Risk.nuke isn't mafia was one of the main reasons I don't think Risk is mafia. So in the end I think this 3rd point isn't valid, because most of us were looking harshly at risk.nuke and now we consider him very heavily town.
Then for the last one where he wanted to vote off ProfBA... I couldn't find where he said anything about it. Please what page of the filter?
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As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.
Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith?
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On December 20 2011 07:43 MrZentor wrote:I have to go for a while and will be way too tired when I get back to explain in full, so I will summarize quickly and try to get the full report tomorrow. Grey led the town to elect PBA. He hasn't really helped the town at all. He has committed several mistakes(such as thinking secretary of defense was a public role check) that led to time being wasted explaining his mistake to him. This all makes him pretty suspicious. You look pretty suspicious, because you seem to be illogical(not that I am) and tried to defend the godfather without any real reason. Now you are defending Grey, and it seems you don't have any real reasons behind your thoughts. This means if Grey flips scum, it will confirm that you are a scum and should be lynched. If Grey flips town, it will make you seem a less guilty. We could kill you, but Grey seems more suspicious; I don't think we have a good enough case for your death. Yet.
I think electing PBA was the obvious smart move, I dont see how that can make someone scum. Maybe TNTP or Deus would have been elected if they were posting at all then, but I dont think they were.
I defended ProfBA because there was no real logic behind the claim that he was mafia it was just "errandor doesn't post when hes mafia" and a few other points that were correct, but really impossible to know without having played plenty of games with erran/curu I geuss. So I don't see how Grey or myself should have known this was true.
And whether or not Grey flips scum shouldn't confirm I am scum or that I'm less guilty. I just want to use logic and I think MarserBlood (jj2a or somethingw now), Comprissent, Cascades and whoever else aren't posting at all and check them for scum. Nycz or w/e too. I'm really unhappy with how Cascades looks atm and would love to hear Radfields or Jj2a's oppinions on his filter. I'm not happy with linching Greymist today.
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Post is aimed in respone to totallynottwopeople. Fkkinh htc phone.
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On December 20 2011 07:26 risk.nuke wrote:GreymistBeeing in favor of electing the professor+ Show Spoiler +On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote:
@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.
Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.
@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT? I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 17:05 GreYMisT wrote:On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote:
@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.
Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.
@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT? I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay. He tries to make a case on Jitsu but for some reason he doesn't ask professor whom he belives is town and should be a good scumhunter for thoughts, he only asks random townies. (That is weird) No, really. Townies ask who they belive are their strongest townreads for thoughts, scum asks random townies to gain towncred with the illusion that they are discussing. He votes for MrZentor who I am sure is town because of his abillity. Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:46 GreYMisT wrote:Sheth, compare this from newbie mini mafia: (also day 1/2 if i recall) + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm 100% sure Toad is scum.
So to defend myself from your lines of nonsense, the wall of text where it's hard to even know who said what.
You don't like the way I post? Starting the game of with some humor, so people wont get bored and hence less active. How is that anti-town play.
The second one is just a small pressure post aswell as the followup. Nothing more. The fact that you question everything I do while other people are doing the same thing just sugest you have targeted me instead of targeting scummy behavior and that is not town play. Narrowing one person down and claiming everything he does is scummy by angle it or WIFOM is not town play, especially since you're only targeting me because I am the one trying to expose you.
Then you're questioning my activity, trying to make a case of as if it mattered why I couldn't be at a computer long enough to analyze and write. What exacly did I have thrown against me? I am looking through the thread right now and the only thing I find is things you have said which is just omgus. You're just playing on the fact that there are so many people who doesn't go back and read but just swallows what you angle to be true.
Townie priority list.
1. Establish your innocence.
2. Support the right townies.
3. Vote properly.
4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies.
5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread.
There is no reason for a townie ever to angle anything, that is not their job because it doesn't help them to find scum, only scum ever tries to angle things.
Ofcourse if I call out that nobody is supporting the one beeing lynched then I become his suporter, I waited as long as I dared to do it because I wanted to see if anyone else would and still have time to avert the lynch.
In the second last of my quotes it's really interesting to see which part Toad choose to answer. Ignoring what was clearly the point of that post. I'll come back to this in a second.
I am telling you to explain, the only evidence you have presented on Skrammen is he is scum because I am defending him. You're responses are pretty much You are scum, I have explained YOU ARE SCUM!! What I want is something concrete, like this.
Toad is scum because he is inconsistent to what he says, changes his mind, angle things and when asked for reasoning why he thinks in a certain way he is having a hard time answering something that should be as simple as saying the truth. to this. On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:
Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands. can you explain this please? I think you are scum. see why we are a bit concerned? He tries to discredit me with some weak metagame analysis. he is comfortable with lynching nisani ( ViceraEyes) Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null. In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do. On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark. On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night? "Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town." + Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
Breaking News!
Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!
Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.
and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason. probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible. Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup. + Show Spoiler +
not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp. He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible. In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known. I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum. Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now. When he says he is changing his mind about me he first calls me null-read and then he says he thinks I am town. This entire post is an attempt to appease me. Greymist says this, to try and win me over. Since Townie A who gets called a townie gets less suspicious of Person B who said he says he thinks Townie A is town. The part involving me is just some weird singled out points to disguise the real purpose of the post. The point of this post was to discreetly call me town so I would stop tunneling him. You might say that he would do that even if he was town because nobody wants to be tunneled but no, this only makes sense if he KNOWS I am town. Because if I were scum when this post got put put under the magnifying glass those weak points could get him lynched ergo you don't do this unless you KNOW. He is reluctant to lynch the professor Here we're at it again, he keeps beliving the professor is town but his posts doesn't show any real strenght behind his belifes, they are just there when it's voting time. Conclusion: Mafia
Can you show me where i was reluctant to lynch the professor?
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Ha I just asked that Grey  !
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yea ninjaed. I just got excited that risk had posted a case on me.
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"Arcto I understand your suspicions of curu, but do you really feel confident in lynching him based on the little you provided? Why him and not some of the other candidates we have presented?" - greymist
"How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you."
- greymist
"I am holding off on voting prof. badass until arctocod can give their reasoning. Weren't you the one a few pages back who said we need to not follow you guys blindly?" - greymist
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Well, i'm a new one to the lynch GreYMisT train, but I do have this simple question.
Why are you two so buddy-buddy?
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@GreY and Sheth, that is.
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sheth always has to make it hard to not vote for him every single cycle rofl
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On December 20 2011 08:15 Jitsu wrote:
Well, i'm a new one to the lynch GreYMisT train, but I do have this simple question.
Why are you two so buddy-buddy?
I don't think hes Mafia so I'm trying to point out if someone isn't using logic when making a case against him. If it was a case based on logic I'd definetly be cool for killing him, but I'm worried atm.
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On December 20 2011 08:15 risk.nuke wrote:
"Arcto I understand your suspicions of curu, but do you really feel confident in lynching him based on the little you provided? Why him and not some of the other candidates we have presented?" - greymist
"How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you."
- greymist
"I am holding off on voting prof. badass until arctocod can give their reasoning. Weren't you the one a few pages back who said we need to not follow you guys blindly?" - greymist
At that point arcto had not given any sort of reasoning whatsoever, and had just told us to vote for him. Is it wrong to want to know why? If you have not noticed I don't like it when people don't explain why we should do something, and just expect us to follow like sheep.
example one: you saying im scum all game.
example two: see the above 3 quotes.
After ProfBadass started freaking out, I voted for him, just as most of us did.
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On December 20 2011 08:15 risk.nuke wrote:
"Arcto I understand your suspicions of curu, but do you really feel confident in lynching him based on the little you provided? Why him and not some of the other candidates we have presented?" - greymist
"How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you."
- greymist
"I am holding off on voting prof. badass until arctocod can give their reasoning. Weren't you the one a few pages back who said we need to not follow you guys blindly?" - greymist
I agree with all of these points that Greymist brought up then. That was really why I was against lynching him in the first place. Arco said he was lazy and even thought he said he was joking when he said he would "Probably" give his reasoning, he never did give it. I'd need something more then this to feel confident in voting out Greymist. Even if you end up lynching him then me, please look at Nycz and Cascades and Marser and so forth. Also Cwave what do you think on this matter? You said you hate getting asked in like we asked you earlier, but thats because your not posting.
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On December 20 2011 08:17 zeks wrote:
sheth always has to make it hard to not vote for him every single cycle rofl
is something stopping you? Your post implies that you believe he is town and just saying scummy things in your eyes. is this true?
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On December 20 2011 07:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 07:43 MrZentor wrote:On December 20 2011 07:16 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Please do. Prompt Prompt. I have to go for a while and will be way too tired when I get back to explain in full, so I will summarize quickly and try to get the full report tomorrow. Grey led the town to elect PBA. He hasn't really helped the town at all. He has committed several mistakes(such as thinking secretary of defense was a public role check) that led to time being wasted explaining his mistake to him. This all makes him pretty suspicious. You look pretty suspicious, because you seem to be illogical(not that I am) and tried to defend the godfather without any real reason. Now you are defending Grey, and it seems you don't have any real reasons behind your thoughts. This means if Grey flips scum, it will confirm that you are a scum and should be lynched. If Grey flips town, it will make you seem a less guilty. We could kill you, but Grey seems more suspicious; I don't think we have a good enough case for your death. Yet. I think electing PBA was the obvious smart move, I dont see how that can make someone scum. Maybe TNTP or Deus would have been elected if they were posting at all then, but I dont think they were. I defended ProfBA because there was no real logic behind the claim that he was mafia it was just "errandor doesn't post when hes mafia" and a few other points that were correct, but really impossible to know without having played plenty of games with erran/curu I geuss. So I don't see how Grey or myself should have known this was true. And whether or not Grey flips scum shouldn't confirm I am scum or that I'm less guilty. I just want to use logic and I think MarserBlood (jj2a or somethingw now), Comprissent, Cascades and whoever else aren't posting at all and check them for scum. Nycz or w/e too. I'm really unhappy with how Cascades looks atm and would love to hear Radfields or Jj2a's oppinions on his filter. I'm not happy with linching Greymist today.
Its not that theres no real logic, you're just not reading or comprehending any of it
ProfBA's lynch was not completely on meta
First of all him coming out of the woodworks and asking for pardoner position at a perfect timing after Arc got taken out should've been an indication to you
The fact that he gave up so easily and played the frustrated townie is another indication
The fact that he has barely contributed to any town discussion is an indication
You can take meta for what its worth and sometimes you should trust the vets
Do we really need to spell it out for you ? If you thought there was no logic behind the claim that he's mafia you think we got him on luck?
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On December 20 2011 08:27 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 08:17 zeks wrote:
sheth always has to make it hard to not vote for him every single cycle rofl is something stopping you? Your post implies that you believe he is town and just saying scummy things in your eyes. is this true?
Precisely
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On December 16 2011 10:33 GreYMisT wrote:
The best defense is helping scumhunt, you are right in that we dont want to hear random comments unless they help us find scum.
Would like to see that from you
An extensive, detailed case on the person you would lynch tonight
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