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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 21:59 GMT
#2216
nvm, things are happening fast in the election thread. no worries though
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 22:16 GMT
#2220
On December 21 2011 07:06 MrZentor wrote:
Guys, I really don't understand why we're electing Deus as watcher. We don't know he's town, and our entire plan rests on the fact that the watcher is town. If the Watcher isn't town, we get several townies, including Radfield, killed, and allow mafia to have a good chance of winning.

I am getting really suspicious of Deus, because he keeps saying how he is the optimal choice for Watcher even though we have confirmed townies, such as Grey or me :p, who would be better suited for the position. We need the Watcher to be a confirmed townie and Deus isn't.

It's a huge mistake to elect him as Watcher.


No, we don't need a confirmed townie as the watcher. If I die, and he comes back with no name, or with the wrong name, he gets himself lynched. A 2 for 1 trade, or even a 1 for 1 trade is not acceptable to mafia right now.

That being said, I think deus-ex is very likely town.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#2261
I shouldn't need to say this, but vigilantes should be firing tonight. We have about 8 players who could all die, and I would not be particularly saddened.

Cwave
Sheth
nyczbrandon
Jitsu
Marserreplacement
cascades
refallen

pew pew
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 21 2011 18:27 GMT
#2317
On December 22 2011 02:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So I geuss what I'm trying to say is : Radfield / Zeks why aren't you upset with Deus for not doing what you said to do and we all agreed on?


If I turn up dead in the morning and he has an excuse instead of a name, he gets lynched. Supersoft knows the consequences.

Zeks do you need protection tonight, or should I not be bothering with you?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2323
On December 22 2011 03:36 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:27 Radfield wrote:
On December 22 2011 02:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So I geuss what I'm trying to say is : Radfield / Zeks why aren't you upset with Deus for not doing what you said to do and we all agreed on?


If I turn up dead in the morning and he has an excuse instead of a name, he gets lynched. Supersoft knows the consequences.

Zeks do you need protection tonight, or should I not be bothering with you?


Add me to your medic list

I have a feeling I might get roleblocked tonight. Is it announced after night or sometime before?



Roleblocker acts in realtime I think. I was roleblocked and informed at somewhat random points in the day.

It is however possible that the roleblocker will act at 1 minute before the deadline, not giving us enough time to receive the message from kita, relay it to the thread, and have deus-ex watch that person.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#2324
On December 22 2011 04:46 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
lul, are you scum, sheth?


It's a distinct possibility.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 03:11 GMT
#2340
If I die supersoft best have a name for everyone.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 03:30 GMT
#2344
bingo, so sheth was scum. Always listen to Palmar/Syllo....

Who shot him?

Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 03:32 GMT
#2346
are you one of them Jitsu?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#2348
I assume the intellegence officer will get an investigation of some kind. I would be down with zeks at this point, or whomever shot Sheth. Whomever it is I will protect, and then I will probably get shot.

I'm not particularly concerned who gets Postmaster General at this stage.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 03:36 GMT
#2349
On December 22 2011 12:34 Refallen wrote:
I hope this clears me of some suspicion?


Why does it clear you of suspicion?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 13:43 GMT
#2389
I fully agree with zeks at this point.

His voting list is good, and he should definitely be intelligence officer. Additionally it makes sense for me to be postmaster general, as then the two of us can co-ordinate our roles.

On December 22 2011 14:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Radfield, Did you use your first medic shot?


I actually messed up and went out drinking, then came home to find that the PM I thought I sent to Kita was not actually sent. I had planned on protecting you though Greymist, so it's all good anyways. I still have two protections left.

I will be gone almost all today, and much of tomorrow unfortunately.

I still have a slight town read on cascades, so would prefer to not lynch him today, but I would not be particularly sad if he was lynched.

I am still suspicious of both Refallen and Cwave, but both have little things that make me think they are town. I would not be at all against lynching either one.

The Marserblood replacement should be looked into, and possibly lynched depending on what he has actually done....

Jitsu I'm unsure of, as I haven't read his filter in quite some time.

In fact, I need to reread all these filters to get a real good picture of who to lynch, but I simply won't have time over the next two days. I'm happy to defer to who you guys think is the best lynch between those 4(5).

In relative order of scumminess:

Scummy
Cwave
Refallen
Cascades
Marserblood(jaj)
Jitsu

Prob Town
TnTP
risk.nuke
dues-ex

Town
Zentor
Greymist
Zeks
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2466
On December 23 2011 13:40 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys take a look at cwave for me. I became suspicious myself when I looked back and saw sheth had claimed he had "great posting" and that he looked really town. As i personally read his filter I came across a few things:

Not a lot of time spent trying to get elected (more than Curu though)

Immediate hostility towards all the vets (sensless hostility)

Does nothing to dissuade wagons forming on now known towies (me, spaakles) yet in the case of spaakles berated town for its incompetence

Almost never even mentions Sheth at all.

These to me all add up to scum. I would like to hear what others think too, as we do actually have to talk about a lynch today guys.


I fully agree with this Greymist. Cwave has not been making sense all game, and has consistently been voting townies. He makes tons of lists with little attached analysis which is generally a scum-tactic to "contribute". There was also the weird situation where ProfBad went flying off the handle yelling at Cwave for calling players who voted spaackle scummy. It was a bizarre overreaction at the time, but makes sense if they are distancing.

In addition he has been heaping suspicion on a wide variety of targets without actually pushing them:

*Greymist voters
*Spaackle lynchers
*ProfBad election voters
etc.

He is by far my strongest scum read right now.

##Vote Cwave




Looking over Jaj, he looks fairly decent. He has been fairly active since replacing Marserblood, and has consistently making sense.

The votes yesterday were 8 Comprissent vs 5 Cascades, and Sheth was on nycbrandon. I have a feeling that if Cascades was actually scum, Sheth would have switched over to comprissent to ensure that cascades did not get lynched. That at least is what most scum would do. I'm going to reread him right now though(cascades).
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 23 2011 15:55 GMT
#2467
On December 24 2011 00:48 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 00:41 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
and the rb is dead. + i can save rad another night with my watcher ability.


Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 23:31 kitaman27 wrote:
If the police chief wishes to use his ability, it must be used night three




It's irrelevant though, because zeks can save me with his ability, and I can save zeks with mine. So we're in the clear.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 23 2011 16:21 GMT
#2473
Looking over Cascades filter is not particularly reassuring.

His play is 80% defence, 19% speculation and 1% scumhunting.

Up until his case on Deus-ex he has done almost no scumhunting the entire game. I will say that there are still things that make him seem town, mainly the way in that he goes to lengths defending himself when he doesn't have to, and his defense against Greymist's accusations.

I wouldn't be super surprised if he flipped scum, but I still think that Cwave is a better candidate.

Both Refallen and TnTP have claimed blue roles, which takes us to a whopping 10 blue roles. However at least 4 or 5 of those roles are only worth half a blue(Politician, Day-Extender, Attorney, PSA, Lobbyist). For now I would take their claims at face-value. However I disagree that our current secret ballot voting has to be a scum power. It could very easily just be a game mechanic, and would be very strange for mafia to use it on this day instead of other days. In fact, I would expect the mafia to have a voting role like TnTP instead.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#2475
On December 24 2011 01:13 risk.nuke wrote:
@Zeks: ok.

@Radfield
*Greymist voters
*Spaackle lynchers
First 2 doesn't really make sense rad.

When you say "*Greymist voters" do you mean as in didn't switch his vote after Greymist claimed. Greymist was townie driven and was looking like he was going down no matter what so mafia could just has likely not had voted for him. Imo it's not really a tell.

*Spaackle lynchers. You pretty much decided when you came storming in last minute that everyone should vote spaackle, even I was puzzled how to proceed so I can imagine less experienced people where more so. This also isn't much of a tell and once again I think mafia didn't need to hammer.

Also what do you think of dues?



What I was saying is that Cwave came in and heaped suspicion on the spaackle lynchers, and also tried to pushed suspicion on people who voted for greymist, yet never followed those things up. He simply threw out the suspicion and let it sit there.

I think Deus is probably town. I believe the slight scumminess that had crept into his play in the last 24-36 hours is due to him getting careless with his posting. He has less townie credentials than a number of other players though, so he'll end up getting lynched down the stretch if he is scum.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 23 2011 16:26 GMT
#2476
On December 24 2011 01:22 risk.nuke wrote:
Rad I'm not the least sold that cwave will bleed red, write a post where you take in what he's done good and bad and I'll judge that. I just read his filter and that post was a joke for a case.


What has he done good? What are his contributions this game?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 24 2011 01:35 GMT
#2529
I double voted for TnTP so we only need 1 more vote to get him in second.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 24 2011 03:24 GMT
#2547
damn

Sorry I popped in and out. I saw the withdrawl post from my itouch at work and figured I should post that I switched +1.

I'm thinking that I will still mason with zeks. Any objections?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 24 2011 03:26 GMT
#2548
Can we get some kind of an extension for Christmas or Christmas Eve? Maybe extend this night to 48 hours and the following day to 72? Or is that too much time, what do people think?
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