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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 16 2011 17:08 GMT
#1521
Refallen if your worried about him because he is pardoner its probably possible to have him simply use both Pardons today. Will it show up when he uses a pardon? If so, who would you vote off given that Refallen?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:15 GMT
#1522
I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 16 2011 17:18 GMT
#1523
@Refallen you realize the pardons could be on someone like Arcto / Giygas the two people were voting in to office right? That doesn't mean we've "wasted a Day cycle". Arcto just quoted again what Pardoner is.... Please take the time to read this thread and THINK.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:20 GMT
#1524
When are we ever going to be lynching Arcto or Giygas?
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 17:21 GMT
#1525
@Sheth, I will be voting for Arctocod tonight for the election. I feel he is town, and I think that he will be able to benefit the people the most as of right now.

I also think a 3rd candidate would be a good choice, but not at the loss of time deciding on who to lynch. My vote is still Comprissent, but it might change depending on what the day brings.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 16 2011 17:22 GMT
#1526
Using his pardon today would not prove his innocence, as delaying us a day cycle and essentially forcing a no lynch ultimately benefits the mafia. Arcto I understand your suspicions of curu, but do you really feel confident in lynching him based on the little you provided? Why him and not some of the other candidates we have presented?
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 16 2011 17:23 GMT
#1527
Yes I feel pretty confident, but in case that doesn't suffice, Palmar can probably write something up
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
December 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#1528
On December 17 2011 02:15 Refallen wrote:
I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.


Why would we need ProfBA to use his pardon as a way to prove innocence? We voted him in as the pardoner. Nothing is saying he isn't the mafia alignment though.
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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#1529
On December 17 2011 02:26 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 02:15 Refallen wrote:
I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.


Why would we need ProfBA to use his pardon as a way to prove innocence? We voted him in as the pardoner. Nothing is saying he isn't the mafia alignment though.


We voted him in as pardoner in hardly the most relaxed of circumstances. And upon reflection there appears to be some suspicions based around him (see Arctocod). So yes, we do need some proof that he's not mafia, though using a pardon is hardly a smart way of going about that.

Anyway, I'm heading to bed.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 17:40 GMT
#1530
Before I agree to a lynch of Prof.Badass, I'd like to hear Palmogism's thoughts on the present lynch candidates. This Badass thing came out of nowhere, and the sheer voracity of Palmogism's desire to lynch Badass gives me pause.

Palmogism, assuming that Prof.Badass is absolutely unlynchable today, who would you want to lynch and why?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 16 2011 17:51 GMT
#1531
We've a list of ~8 players who we don't have a [even weak] town read on, so someone on that list. Would have to filter and spend some time discussing with palmar to narrow it down and I'm not giving the whole list for obvious reasons. We may come up with a name or two later, but it's very unlikely that we can be swayed from lynching Curu.
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DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 16 2011 17:57 GMT
#1532
the reason why I think gigaS is an inferior candidate compared to me is, that I don't like that Palmogism dominate the whole scene right now. GigaS is just Palmogism servant. I want to be in the office to make sure that i'll be still around at day3.
You can see right now why I was against a Profbadasslynch: Every other discussion stopped and Palmogism stops every other discussion about alternative lynchcandidates because they won't share their reads.

They may be good at diverting between town and scum, but they obviously don't see the game as a whole. I am afraid we'll lose this if Curu flips town.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 17:58 GMT
#1533
How about if you go look at my analysis of evantrees or nyc before you say something like that? I did it at YOUR request, syllo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 16 2011 18:05 GMT
#1534
The analysis won't be wasted just because we lynch Curu today. I think you make some good points, but the problem with the players I gave you to analyze is that we don't know them at all, while we know Curu quite well and know what we can expect from him. By the way I fully admit the lack of real answer above is due to me being exceedingly lazy and unwilling to put any effort into a more detailed re-assessment of those players. Right now we consider Curu a very very likely scum and once Palmar is around we will present a real case. Probably.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 16 2011 18:09 GMT
#1535
REALLY?!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#1536
Eh, I can't complain, but man that is a sorry post.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#1537
On December 17 2011 03:05 Arctocod wrote:
The analysis won't be wasted just because we lynch Curu today. I think you make some good points, but the problem with the players I gave you to analyze is that we don't know them at all, while we know Curu quite well and know what we can expect from him. By the way I fully admit the lack of real answer above is due to me being exceedingly lazy and unwilling to put any effort into a more detailed re-assessment of those players. Right now we consider Curu a very very likely scum and once Palmar is around we will present a real case. Probably.


How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you.
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Arctocod
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway251 Posts
December 16 2011 18:13 GMT
#1538
On December 17 2011 03:10 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 03:05 Arctocod wrote:
The analysis won't be wasted just because we lynch Curu today. I think you make some good points, but the problem with the players I gave you to analyze is that we don't know them at all, while we know Curu quite well and know what we can expect from him. By the way I fully admit the lack of real answer above is due to me being exceedingly lazy and unwilling to put any effort into a more detailed re-assessment of those players. Right now we consider Curu a very very likely scum and once Palmar is around we will present a real case. Probably.


How can you expect us to agree to lynch curu when you openly admit to being lazy and not putting effort info other cases, and then saying you will only "Probally" give your reasoning. Just because you are very likely town does not excuse you.

Haha we have spent hours going through the filters, I'm just not going to read them for the 10th time because I don't think there is nothing particularly damning there, besides the fact they've done little to make themselves look town. Curu on the other hand has played in a way that makes him very likely scum, rather than a null or slightly scummy.

The "probably" part was a joke.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 16 2011 18:14 GMT
#1539
Sheth, unvote until we hear from ProfBA. This is fishy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 16 2011 18:25 GMT
#1540
I was going to do the analysises requested of me last night now but more interesting stuff is going on so they will have to wait.

The more interesting stuff:
I've had a bad feeling about the professor ever since Arctocod got withdrawn and he was elected. If we keep assuming it was a scum abillity they probably have a limited number of uses, I guess 1 max 2. They wouldn't had wasted this abillity which means they have an agenda. The professor was the one who got elected instead, there wasn't any question about that he would be elected. The only logical reasoning is the mafia knew this. Which leaves us here. Either the mafia elected the professor because the professor is scum. Or they elected the professor to make us come to the conclusion that he is scum. These are the only two logical reasoning. Personally I think the first one is the likeliest but that isn't the only reason. If the professor is scum he can hurt town. He knows he is heavily suspiscious and if we don't lynch him today we will likely lynch him soon unless he starts busing. If we choose to lynch someone else and by luck hits a mafia. The professor can pardon him giving them an extra night.

I approve with lynching The Professor today.
Still want greymist dead.
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