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On December 16 2011 09:56 risk.nuke wrote:
Fuck excuses I'm trying to tell the truth
What do you want from me, I played spammy and agressive in my last game and I was town then but nobody mentions that.
I know I'm town so if you're getting the conclusion that I am mafia you're clearly getting it wrong. ViceraEyes I'm just telling you what your case on me sounded like from my perspective, and in my opinion it wasn't very deep. I think you thought I looked scummy and wrote a bunch of 2 minute posts on me in combination with tunneling. If you were serious and put in alot of effort in reading me well then the more fault to you.
Cool bro! Maybe you could do some scumhunting instead of continually defending yourself after I've stated very clearly that I'm not even looking at you anymore! Yeah? No?
Here's a start - tell me what you think about....oh I don't know, let's start with zeks. Read through his posts and tell the class what you think about him.
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I read through both Zeks and TnTp, on one readthrough I have a leaning on both but I'm still undecided. Some of their posts I need to track down and watch in context. I'll do that tomorrow. It's 2 a.m. I'm going to go to sleep.
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On December 16 2011 09:48 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:31 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 16 2011 09:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:56 Cwave wrote:Checking in and looking forward to a good game! ![[image loading]](http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/26.jpg) I'm running for mayor.Im still relative new to the TL mafia games but not to online mafia games in general. I post what i think and don't mind taking a leap of faith to get things done. Also, I mistrust anyone by default and have a healthy hatred towards mafiagame-veterans onelining the thread into poop. I will listen to good argumentation and will execute what the majority wants when they make sense and ignore when it's all clear jibberish. Voting for me gives you an active and open minded mayor, not tainted and bitter by previous TL games and above all, a scumhunter who will not stop once he has smelled a red. Cwave I bolded the relevant part in red. However I am not sure yet if it's really a scumtell. I thought about the setup in general and about the possibility that Rad/palmogism/curu/prplhz and I are town. (probably greymist and VE, too)... Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 22:17 cascades wrote:On December 15 2011 21:06 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 15 2011 19:04 cascades wrote:
Let's hope mafia helps kill all the vets for us. =)
why? joke? joke question. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:51 zeks wrote:
Voting Radfield + Arc
Nothing scummy about their posts so far - although as they are vets its unlikely they'll have any slips this early if they were scum.
Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:02 zeks wrote:
As good as the vets have proven to be in past games don't just trust them for the sake of their names; look at how they are playing this game. Don't give them (too) much credit
Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:25 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 11:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On December 14 2011 11:06 risk.nuke wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 11:02 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around. OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this. ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best. EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONERNow we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.
We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him. xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them. catching up now... look at how badass is looking for new bandwagon cases. Do you really want to risk putting him as pardoner? This post wasn't made by ProfBA. What bandwagon are you reffering to? It was a response to radfield. I'm reffering to that badass seemed pretty okey with lynching Nisani or Zentor. Unrelated I am pissed of because nobody listens to me for shit when I say don't lynch Nisani or Zentor but the when someone of the veteran names pop up and say it you're all mesmerized. And surprsingly to me I'm just slightly mad over the me beeing ignored part but more angry at the town for beeing useless and just heed the veterans instead of thinking for themselves. What is the point of this post besides showing every example of people saying things against veterans? 1. I hate people who ask something and disappear directly after that. 2. I filtered you guys and you did nothing this game. No real opinion given on anything axcept risk, greymist and zentor. These players have been discussed several times and nearly everyone gave an opinion. And you only repeated thing that have already been said. I think you're the scumhydra among us hydras.
I have been posting between games of HoN. I admit I didn't do much day 1. I don't see how that makes us scum. As for your question as to who among the vets I thought was most likely scum, I am currently leaning toward professor badass, although not strongly. Also, please point out who else actually built a case on greymist like I did. I know risk called him scum, but did not post a cast. You say I have only repeated things, so it should be easy to do.
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On December 16 2011 10:14 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:48 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 16 2011 09:31 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 16 2011 09:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 19:56 Cwave wrote:Checking in and looking forward to a good game! I'm running for mayor.Im still relative new to the TL mafia games but not to online mafia games in general. I post what i think and don't mind taking a leap of faith to get things done. Also, I mistrust anyone by default and have a healthy hatred towards mafiagame-veterans onelining the thread into poop. I will listen to good argumentation and will execute what the majority wants when they make sense and ignore when it's all clear jibberish. Voting for me gives you an active and open minded mayor, not tainted and bitter by previous TL games and above all, a scumhunter who will not stop once he has smelled a red. Cwave I bolded the relevant part in red. However I am not sure yet if it's really a scumtell. I thought about the setup in general and about the possibility that Rad/palmogism/curu/prplhz and I are town. (probably greymist and VE, too)... Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 22:17 cascades wrote:On December 15 2011 21:06 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:On December 15 2011 19:04 cascades wrote:
Let's hope mafia helps kill all the vets for us. =)
why? joke? joke question. Show nested quote +On December 12 2011 23:51 zeks wrote:
Voting Radfield + Arc
Nothing scummy about their posts so far - although as they are vets its unlikely they'll have any slips this early if they were scum.
Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:02 zeks wrote:
As good as the vets have proven to be in past games don't just trust them for the sake of their names; look at how they are playing this game. Don't give them (too) much credit
Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:25 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 11:18 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On December 14 2011 11:06 risk.nuke wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 11:02 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around. OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this. ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best. EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONERNow we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.
We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him. xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them. catching up now... look at how badass is looking for new bandwagon cases. Do you really want to risk putting him as pardoner? This post wasn't made by ProfBA. What bandwagon are you reffering to? It was a response to radfield. I'm reffering to that badass seemed pretty okey with lynching Nisani or Zentor. Unrelated I am pissed of because nobody listens to me for shit when I say don't lynch Nisani or Zentor but the when someone of the veteran names pop up and say it you're all mesmerized. And surprsingly to me I'm just slightly mad over the me beeing ignored part but more angry at the town for beeing useless and just heed the veterans instead of thinking for themselves. What is the point of this post besides showing every example of people saying things against veterans? 1. I hate people who ask something and disappear directly after that. 2. I filtered you guys and you did nothing this game. No real opinion given on anything axcept risk, greymist and zentor. These players have been discussed several times and nearly everyone gave an opinion. And you only repeated thing that have already been said. I think you're the scumhydra among us hydras. I have been posting between games of HoN. I admit I didn't do much day 1. I don't see how that makes us scum. As for your question as to who among the vets I thought was most likely scum, I am currently leaning toward professor badass, although not strongly. Also, please point out who else actually built a case on greymist like I did. I know risk called him scum, but did not post a cast. You say I have only repeated things, so it should be easy to do.
Oh, unless you want to count greymist among the vets, in which case I am obviously favoring him as the scum.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
hmm interesting. I have one more question:
Do you think the nightshots of the scumteam were optimal, if not, who would you have been shot?
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Has anyone realized that Graymist is targetted by people under suspicion right now, and all of them aren't with evidence?
TNTP went to Graymist with no evidence, and Risk has been tunneling him the entire game (or at least day 1).
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On December 16 2011 09:35 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:19 nyczbrandon wrote:
Refallen looks more suspicous of the two, but both havent posted much I can use. I think they might both be town.
Refallen has posted that he though that ProfB might be scum for random lynch, but later on posted that he did not look like it much anymore.
TotallyNotTwoPeople hasn't done much except going hard on Mr.Zentor for some reason. What the hell kind of analysis is this? Your either not trying, or really like lurking.
I was being rushed to leave because my parents arrived and I had to go home. I just looked at their fillers and didnt see much. I thought that Rafallen being 2 hours before voting might of been coincidental because of him going to finals, but you may be right since I did not analyze the time and that Arcotod had been forced out of the election around the same time.
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On December 16 2011 10:25 nyczbrandon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 09:35 Jitsu wrote:On December 16 2011 09:19 nyczbrandon wrote:
Refallen looks more suspicous of the two, but both havent posted much I can use. I think they might both be town.
Refallen has posted that he though that ProfB might be scum for random lynch, but later on posted that he did not look like it much anymore.
TotallyNotTwoPeople hasn't done much except going hard on Mr.Zentor for some reason. What the hell kind of analysis is this? Your either not trying, or really like lurking. I was being rushed to leave because my parents arrived and I had to go home. I just looked at their fillers and didnt see much. I thought that Rafallen being 2 hours before voting might of been coincidental because of him going to finals, but you may be right since I did not analyze the time and that Arcotod had been forced out of the election around the same time.
Now that you have more time, you can actually post some content with your suspicions. Go ahead, we're waiting with bated breath.
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TotallyNotTwoPeople+ Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 17:15 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Ok, so I am caught up on the thread, but haven't started filtering people yet, with one exception. I am obviously fine with Arctocod/Giygas being elected today. Arcto, which position would you prefer? I will be voting for you unless some switches to Giygas are needed if you'd prefer to be Secretary of Defense. If anyone has anything to ask of me, feel free, I will be going to bed shortly, but will answer them tomorrow. (I'll be more active tomorrow than I have been, I promise!) On risk.nuke, in my experience playing with him he has been rather aggressive, but he is definitely being harsher in his attacks than normal, and more personal as well. I had a town leaning on him earlier (up until around the time he started running for pardoner), but have moved back to a null read on him with his more recent attacks, as he seems to be using less logic and more ad hominem attacks. The saving grace for him in my eyes is his dislike of Greymist's play. I agree with him on this. I have played one other game with Greymist, and he was scum in that game. He seems to be playing quite similar to how he did in that game. In both games he asks a ton of questions to various people, only to land on whatever seems like a fairly easy lynch to pull off with minimal real analysis. He also tends to enjoy answering simple questions such as hours remaining in the day, votes required for lynch, etc. While certainly nice to do, it also gives you a way to seem like you are helping when you are in fact only providing information already available to everyone. His filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=120900¤tpage=Alland from Steamship: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=120900¤tpage=AllI'd be interested to hear input on this from anyone else with prior experience playing with him. Does he tend to do this as town as well? If he does, then obviously this case on him is significantly weakened, but regardless I have yet to see much out of him so far that makes me think he is likely to be town. @Evantrees: Why in the hell did you vote for me for pardoner yesterday? I wasn't running, and hadn't been active in the game. You said you RNG'ed the 3 remaining hydra players, but I am confused as to why you did that. One hydra has openly admitted to not having seen or heard anything from the second player in the hydra, and the hydra I am a part of includes my friend who is playing his first game of mafia ever. How does this make either of those 2 'hydras' a better choice than any other player? For those curious/for the sake of clarity: I will be doing most of the posting/decision making for this day, as my friend will be traveling for a portion of it. /Harbinger
@Evantrees: Why in the hell did you vote for me for pardoner yesterday? I wasn't running, and hadn't been active in the game. You said you RNG'ed the 3 remaining hydra players, but I am confused as to why you did that. One hydra has openly admitted to not having seen or heard anything from the second player in the hydra, and the hydra I am a part of includes my friend who is playing his first game of mafia ever. How does this make either of those 2 'hydras' a better choice than any other player?
Too much discussion on why we wanted to protect the hydras day 1 went along with it I suppose. Sort of had to change my vote off Arctocod so wanted to put it somewhere, bit skeptical for ProfBA for some reason. Never got around to changing it with the freaking out over the lynch Also have definitely done some of what you accused greymist of, and oh he pointed it out for me nice.
GreYMisT When I am reading Evantress's posts, im seeing a whole lot of nothing, disguised as something.
trying and failing to be helpful it seems. Evantress while it kind of makes more sense is not my name. Really not sure how to try and defend myself from such accusation. I have been mostly replying to stuff and pointing out things. Hopefully letting the able scum hunters can focus more on that instead. Am I just wasting time?
More of what people have complained about but don't like seeing random incorrect facts. Though in this case hopefully unimportant given our Attorney is dead and theirs used his ability.
Jitsuand the fact that the 'Election Block' ability of whatever we assume is the mafia equiv. to District Attorney had to have happened within two hours of the day ending.
Kita posted a correction the District Attorney had to act before the two hour mark, and arc was withdrawn about 2 hours 15 min before the Lynch/Election.+ Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:It appears there was a typo in the role mechanic. "Must" should have been replaced with "cannot". My apologies. Show nested quote +Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town. Show nested quote +Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action cannot be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town. 7 minutes remain to submit any night actions.
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On December 16 2011 10:30 evantrees wrote:TotallyNotTwoPeople + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 17:15 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Ok, so I am caught up on the thread, but haven't started filtering people yet, with one exception. I am obviously fine with Arctocod/Giygas being elected today. Arcto, which position would you prefer? I will be voting for you unless some switches to Giygas are needed if you'd prefer to be Secretary of Defense. If anyone has anything to ask of me, feel free, I will be going to bed shortly, but will answer them tomorrow. (I'll be more active tomorrow than I have been, I promise!) On risk.nuke, in my experience playing with him he has been rather aggressive, but he is definitely being harsher in his attacks than normal, and more personal as well. I had a town leaning on him earlier (up until around the time he started running for pardoner), but have moved back to a null read on him with his more recent attacks, as he seems to be using less logic and more ad hominem attacks. The saving grace for him in my eyes is his dislike of Greymist's play. I agree with him on this. I have played one other game with Greymist, and he was scum in that game. He seems to be playing quite similar to how he did in that game. In both games he asks a ton of questions to various people, only to land on whatever seems like a fairly easy lynch to pull off with minimal real analysis. He also tends to enjoy answering simple questions such as hours remaining in the day, votes required for lynch, etc. While certainly nice to do, it also gives you a way to seem like you are helping when you are in fact only providing information already available to everyone. His filter from this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=120900¤tpage=Alland from Steamship: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=120900¤tpage=AllI'd be interested to hear input on this from anyone else with prior experience playing with him. Does he tend to do this as town as well? If he does, then obviously this case on him is significantly weakened, but regardless I have yet to see much out of him so far that makes me think he is likely to be town. @Evantrees: Why in the hell did you vote for me for pardoner yesterday? I wasn't running, and hadn't been active in the game. You said you RNG'ed the 3 remaining hydra players, but I am confused as to why you did that. One hydra has openly admitted to not having seen or heard anything from the second player in the hydra, and the hydra I am a part of includes my friend who is playing his first game of mafia ever. How does this make either of those 2 'hydras' a better choice than any other player? For those curious/for the sake of clarity: I will be doing most of the posting/decision making for this day, as my friend will be traveling for a portion of it. /Harbinger Show nested quote +@Evantrees: Why in the hell did you vote for me for pardoner yesterday? I wasn't running, and hadn't been active in the game. You said you RNG'ed the 3 remaining hydra players, but I am confused as to why you did that. One hydra has openly admitted to not having seen or heard anything from the second player in the hydra, and the hydra I am a part of includes my friend who is playing his first game of mafia ever. How does this make either of those 2 'hydras' a better choice than any other player?
Too much discussion on why we wanted to protect the hydras day 1 went along with it I suppose. Sort of had to change my vote off Arctocod so wanted to put it somewhere, bit skeptical for ProfBA for some reason. Never got around to changing it with the freaking out over the lynch Also have definitely done some of what you accused greymist of, and oh he pointed it out for me nice. GreYMisT Show nested quote +When I am reading Evantress's posts, im seeing a whole lot of nothing, disguised as something. trying and failing to be helpful it seems. Evantress while it kind of makes more sense is not my name. Really not sure how to try and defend myself from such accusation. I have been mostly replying to stuff and pointing out things. Hopefully letting the able scum hunters can focus more on that instead. Am I just wasting time? More of what people have complained about but don't like seeing random incorrect facts. Though in this case hopefully unimportant given our Attorney is dead and theirs used his ability. Jitsu Show nested quote +and the fact that the 'Election Block' ability of whatever we assume is the mafia equiv. to District Attorney had to have happened within two hours of the day ending.
Kita posted a correction the District Attorney had to act before the two hour mark, and arc was withdrawn about 2 hours 15 min before the Lynch/Election. + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:It appears there was a typo in the role mechanic. "Must" should have been replaced with "cannot". My apologies. Show nested quote +Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town. Show nested quote +Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action cannot be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town. 7 minutes remain to submit any night actions.
The best defense is helping scumhunt, you are right in that we dont want to hear random comments unless they help us find scum.
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On December 16 2011 10:20 GiygaS wrote:
Has anyone realized that Graymist is targetted by people under suspicion right now, and all of them aren't with evidence?
TNTP went to Graymist with no evidence, and Risk has been tunneling him the entire game (or at least day 1).
Can you quote that suspicion on me from before I was making a case on greymist? Also, are you saying that him being the only person to vote for all 3 of the bandwagon lynches, as well as constantly fishing around for anyone that other people will agree on doesn't seem somewhat scummy? Look at his lynch choices so far, mostly a bunch of largely useless lurkers that nobody would blame him for if they are mislynches.
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@evantrees. Sure. It doesn't matter; I think you can spin it either way.
He uses his ability with a little under 2 Hours left to use it, than posts how he "thought he had two hours remaining to put votes in and has to make a hasty decision.
Regardless, I think it's funny how you came to his defense rather forcefully, no? Also, you seem pretty accurate with the timing on the ability. How did you know it was used roughly around 2 hours and 15 minutes, to the minute? Maybe a scum player said "Use that ability, there is only 15 minutes left" and it stuck in your mind?
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On December 16 2011 10:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hmm interesting. I have one more question:
Do you think the nightshots of the scumteam were optimal, if not, who would you have been shot?
If there was no medic on arctocod it would have been fairly optimal. And who would I have shot? Uh...assuming no blocked shots arctocod, yourself, and prpl probably? If worried about blocked shots, maybe something like you, prpl, and dropbear and hope any/all medics are busy protecting arctocod.
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On December 16 2011 10:38 Jitsu wrote:
@evantrees. Sure. It doesn't matter; I think you can spin it either way.
He uses his ability with a little under 2 Hours left to use it, than posts how he "thought he had two hours remaining to put votes in and has to make a hasty decision.
Regardless, I think it's funny how you came to his defense rather forcefully, no? Also, you seem pretty accurate with the timing on the ability. How did you know it was used roughly around 2 hours and 15 minutes, to the minute? Maybe a scum player said "Use that ability, there is only 15 minutes left" and it stuck in your mind?
...Or maybe he looked at the time on the mod post stating his withdrawal? -_-
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Deus seems to be only asking questions to people that he suspects as a mafia. I thought you picked up that yourself. Anyway, thanks for giving some reasoning behind your suspicions on Greymist.
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On December 16 2011 10:37 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 10:20 GiygaS wrote:
Has anyone realized that Graymist is targetted by people under suspicion right now, and all of them aren't with evidence?
TNTP went to Graymist with no evidence, and Risk has been tunneling him the entire game (or at least day 1). Can you quote that suspicion on me from before I was making a case on greymist? Also, are you saying that him being the only person to vote for all 3 of the bandwagon lynches, as well as constantly fishing around for anyone that other people will agree on doesn't seem somewhat scummy? Look at his lynch choices so far, mostly a bunch of largely useless lurkers that nobody would blame him for if they are mislynches.
A lot of us were voting for MrZentor, he claimed blue, at that point in the game not a lot of us had a good idea of who to lynch, so I went with nisani. Partly because he doesnt normally lurk in the games i have played with him as town, but also because of the reasons i listed. Near the end of the day radfield/Profbadass found that contradiction of spaakle's which again convinced many of us to switch. So far your only case on me is that I am playing in a similar way as steamship. check steamship again. When i was scum there i obviously knew who was on my team and who wasnt, and i reflected that by never straying off my targets except for a few select times. this game I am unsure of who is scum, and am allowed to change my mind and vote.
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On December 16 2011 10:47 GiygaS wrote:
Deus seems to be only asking questions to people that he suspects as a mafia. I thought you picked up that yourself. Anyway, thanks for giving some reasoning behind your suspicions on Greymist.
...I posted my case on greymist before he asked me anything...
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On December 16 2011 10:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hmm interesting. I have one more question:
Do you think the nightshots of the scumteam were optimal, if not, who would you have been shot?
why ask this question? I don't see how any answer from this will serve any purpose. A better question is who are you going to lynch today?
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Vatican City State258 Posts
why not. Who would you have been shot? And who do you want to lynch?
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On December 16 2011 10:53 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
why not. Who would you have been shot? And who do you want to lynch?
Because for the question to have any meaning you would have to assume that the answerer is the only member of the current scumteam, as he has no info on who is availible to be shot. This is not the settup we are playing and therefore renders the question meaningless.
I posted my top three a bit back. I am still suspicious of Risk.Nuke, though I my suspicions have lowered since last night. I will have to read and see more of his opinions. Now after looking through the thread I support a nyzc lynch as well.
How about yourself? who do you want to lynch?
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