EPTOn December 24 2011 01:02 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
ah fuck i thought i have another check in the pipeline...
ah fuck i thought i have another check in the pipeline...
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@Rad, do you think the fact that Sheth was asking my opinion on CWave meant anything? Now that i'm thinking about it, he might have been asking people about our opinions on CWave to see if CWave was doing a good job at hiding, no? | ||
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On December 24 2011 02:57 jaj22 wrote: You were tunnelling Comprissent and now that he flipped green, there's not a whole lot else positive in your filter. However I think your original case against Sheth looks pretty good now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12817121 So unless there's a massive scumslip in the next few hours I think we should hit Cascades or Cwave today. Ideally Zeks has a vig shot left and can clear up the other one tonight. We miss-lynched on Day One as well, so you decide to come after me because of a miss-lynch on day 3? AND there are no other reasons? That's a bullshit case, and you know it. I was tunneling him all game - in my eyes, for good reason. I'd assume that since other people voted for him, they should be lynched as well according to your logic, am I right? Vote Electing Radfield. Still deciding who i'm going to vote lynch. | ||
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On December 24 2011 03:08 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Hey Jitsu - What's your read on Deus? Still the same. Not sure on him. I think any decent veteran player (or newbie, even for that matter) would have picked up on a role post by a mod (note the bright blue letters) about how the mechanics of their role works. IE: How they had to use the Watcher on Night Three. I think? he used his watcher ability on Radfield. I think the fact that two people are posting is really screwing me up. + Show Spoiler + On December 23 2011 02:02 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: i dont understand your last paragraph... who do you want to lynch and who do you want to elect? and dont answer with a question. i want rad and zeks #1,2 and you lynched, not only you just posted again without content!!! On December 24 2011 01:16 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I mean I'd be a great success for scum to get radfield or myself lynched at this point of time. right now I still believe that our slow methodical strategy to narrow down the potential scumteammembers by confirming one townie after the other and lynching the questionable reads is the optimal strategy. That's the reason why I am not too sad that nycbla and comprissent are dead. Two completely different ways to post. It's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I'd like more contribution, since he is trying to be so vocal, in finding reasons to Lynch people. Saying "Cascades is mafia" and not having a reason doesn't make me want to vote Cascades. It's a veteran player trying to take advantage of bandwagon voting. On December 23 2011 17:35 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I am vt and cascades is goon. We should have lynched him yesterday. I am sorry that I let you guys lynch comprissent. Not very convincing. | ||
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On December 24 2011 03:19 jaj22 wrote: No, that's not what I meant. Comprissent was scummy as hell, but green, so your tunnelling makes sense regardless of whether you're town or scum. It makes you a null read, bar the anti-Sheth post. There are so many confirmed or near-confirmed townies that you're probably around #4 in most people's lynch-target lists. If you don't like that, I'd suggest posting some fresh analysis. Ohhh, alright. So let's recap; I tunnel a guy that is acting scummy, who happens to flip green. Than I post an Anti-*Player* post about a guy that eventually flips Red. Fuck it! Lynch him anyway! | ||
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On December 24 2011 03:29 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: You decided not to bother with that I guess? Lol. You asked for it, so here it is. Wasn't done, but i'll post what I have. | ||
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dosen't seem like he's showing any fear, which I think is protown. Kind of like Sheth, he's been pretty active about asking people to post cases and will follow his own lynch targets instead of sheeping people. That's the feeling I got from him. (Also since we're both from Singapore it's highly likely that he's asleep and won't be able to defend himself and for the past 8 hours, since it's early morning here.) Here, Refallen says that Sheth was acting pro-town, by doing a fair amount of things. He says that he got the same read of pro-town because of the same things Sheth was doing. Regardless of this, however, right after the Day post where Sheth dies… On December 22 2011 12:34 Refallen wrote: Was pretty suspicious of Sheth and made my feelings known. When/how did you make you’re suspicions of Sheth known? It’s pretty clear, a few posts ago, that you said you viewed him as Pro-Town. Radical change of thought with no evidence between the two. Was it the fact that he was lynched, and you were trying to distance yourself from him? Earlier the in game, he was lurking pretty hard, and than came out of the wood-work to vote before peaceing for a bit again. He made the excuse of time zone differences – time zone differences? The day cycles are 48 hours long. There’s plenty of time to do something and make a valid point/post/vote. You just hopped up on the bandwagon that first day… ProfessorBadass (15): Arctocod, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Liquid`Sheth, Refallen, -Liquid`Sheth, GreYMisT, VisceraEyes,Comprissent, Liquid`Sheth, Jitsu, GiygaS, zeks, evantrees, cascades, MrZentor, nyczbrandon, Radfield And the second day… Comprissent (8): Radfield, Jitsu, evantrees, zeks, -zeks, TotallyNotTwoPeople, MrZentor, zeks, Refallen, jaj22 And the third day… Actually, out of all your posts, it’s either agreeing/disagreeing with someone, looks to be repeating what someone else already said, or not really saying much. He picked it up after the Sheth post, but than it pittered out into nothing. For instance: I'm fine with you all shooting me if that's what it takes to prove my town status but I rather try to defend myself here rather than make vet waste a shot on me, since when I survive, there's still the possiblity of me being a mafia vet. What? You either get shot and prove your town, or survive and possibly be a mafia vet? Refallen’s slid down on my spreadsheet a piece or two. After that I checked out cascades, because of Refallen’s constant assurance that Cascades was town. I read through cascades whopping two pages of Filter, but even after all of it, he gives me a read of town. I think, actually part of it, is the fact that he has a lot of the same reads on Deus that I do. Re: I really like his most recent post. He’s calling out for Deus to respond to him, and I would like to see the answers. Right now, the bottom three is pretty murky because of the last remaining players, but it includes Refallen and Deus. | ||
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On December 24 2011 05:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: Now I am going to make one ragepost at this complete idiot cascades: You didn't do anything this entire game. You didn't post a single analysis all you did was strange trolling. I don't think your "jokes" are funny, e.g. this "hopefully mafia will kill all the vets for us?!" Basically your negative attitude is extremely bad for us. If you're town, you shouldn't take my attack on you personal and don't just make a case on me, because I made one on you. I don't know if you're just an extremely bad townie or scum. What is this by the way: "And why? Because of lazy setup reasoning. Well 20% of players are mafia, so 1/5 vets = mafia! We already caught the allocated number of scum vets which is Curu. Does this setup make sense in such a vet oriented game? So basically that poor mafia vet screws up/ goes inactive, and the rest of mafia can just GG? They stand almost no chance of getting someone in an elected position (unless they happen to have way to demonstrate they are town?) Oh wait, we already saw all of the mafia powers with today's secret ballot that no one is claiming, none of them are viable for faking a confirmed townie. Those that are "semi-viable" have town counterparts that they can just easily counterclaim." I don't understand the entire paragraph. Are you claiming scum right there? Are you pissed because you had "only" Curu in your team and he screwed up? Hey! it's not my fault that the setup is like it is. Talk to kita if you have any problems with that. I know, that I am town, I saw Palmogism flip and Radfield is nearly confirmed for me because of the roleblockaction and all that stuff. Curu was red, bum was red. These flips only endorse my earlier theory that there were 2 experienced players in the scumteam and the other experienced players are town. That's at least the situation from my point of view. Screw you with you shitty case on me. Also Risk. You two complete idiots just ignore all my efforts to win this fucking game. FOR TOWN. Look at what happened in this game so far. Do you really think I wouldn't yell at sheth in the scumQT if he's buddying me like that? Do you really think I would have been afk when they blocked Palmogism? Whatever. I want to talk about the so far claimed roles. As radfield pointed it looks like we have a lot of blues. TNTP has a pretty scummy ability. One of the remaining scumteammembers has this kidnap-ability they used day1. Maybe one of the scumteam also has this ability and he can't counterclaim against TNTP now. Consequently I don't think TNTP is scum, because as scum with this role, there is a high chance in this setup that some badass has the same role as townie and you have to trade 1v1. Right now, that's not the optimal play. Ahm I am still on the run, Lynch is in about 7.XX hours. I'll figure out my favourite for tonights lynch in the next few hours when I have time. It's a little bit difficult on that tiny screen, but okay, someone has to put a little bit of work in that game and not just accuse others if they accuse them. idiotic cascadees Thank God. This was convincing for me. | ||
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On December 24 2011 07:59 risk.nuke wrote: Dues you have absolutely no reason or right to be upset. How you have the nerve to blame us for pointing out things in your posts is straight up incredible. Sorry for my Jitsu post never coming up, surprise christmas stuff got in the way. I don't know if I'll be back again tonight. E-Vote: Radfield L-Vote: Cascades Sigh. I was looking forward to it. | ||
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I'm still on Radfield. I'd assume everything is still giood. | ||
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It certainly would help if people at least voted. | ||
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On December 24 2011 23:29 Refallen wrote: deus, no I don't. I just think jitsu is being really suspicious now, especially with his last few posts (leaving a vote on me because discussion has died down? totally ignoring TnTP's points on me too, btw.) I'm not DT. I just think jitsu>cascades in scumniness right now, though definitely cascades will be a good shot too. Sigh. I put a vote on you in lieu of not voting anyone else, because I wasn't sure if I would be back, and I didn't really feel Cwave was a mafia, but it was more of a gut instinct than anything. I believe the term is OMGUS, isn't it? | ||
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On December 25 2011 01:10 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: on jitsu topic, bad scum or bad town votes claimed blue in this situation. More likely bad town, since bad scum has teammates. Whatever. Right. | ||
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XMas is here. Everyone have a good one with families. Going to be busy maybe until tomorrow. Have a good one! Happy Holidays | ||
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There is customarily post-game analysis after a game ends, right? | ||
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 As for Hydra's, I think in a normal game of Mafia, it would be ok. But as you said in your post, having twice the popularity in one person really nullifies the ability of other people to be elected if they have no reputation to play with. I think it was an awesome mechanic, especially seeing how now the different powers could have swayed things this and that, and how each elected official had some counter mechanic that could help the mafia as well. I just thing the power that a Hydra possess (double the popularity, double the reputation, double the scum-hunting, ect. ect.) really hurts other people who would want to get a shot. I guess the simple answer is to play more and build you're own reputation, right? :p | ||
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On December 30 2011 03:31 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Thanks for hosting kita/cyber, it was an interesting setup. I don't think balance was at fault, erandorr/curu and dropbear/bum just gave themselves away to those familiar with their play very early on, and then scum was down a kp, lost almost all their electability, and lost the guidance of their vets. I do think hydras are town favored if they are 2 vets though. As for introducing people to mafia, I think a newbie game is definitely a better way to do it than hydras, but those aren't always starting at convenient times/don't always have Sheth playing in them to help convince your friend to give it a try :-P I agree with this. I was getting confused as shit. At least for the part about introducing people with newbie games. | ||
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