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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 16:39 GMT
#2124
I voted for curu...and then repeatedly pointed out how weird the whole situation was and tried to get him lynched, way before any bandwagon on him started forming.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 17:08 GMT
#2130
On December 21 2011 01:48 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 01:39 Refallen wrote:
I voted for curu...and then repeatedly pointed out how weird the whole situation was and tried to get him lynched, way before any bandwagon on him started forming.


quote yourself saying that


I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.


Sheth, do you agree that if it comes down to a lynch between risk.nuke and ProfBadass, it is a much better choice to lynch ProfBadass, seeing as how he is a pardoner?


Ok, less aggressive than I originally remembered, but at the very least I was edging for his lynch... I guess?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 21 2011 02:15 GMT
#2243
Why is cascades suddenly a prime target for lynching? I really think he's town.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 21 2011 02:25 GMT
#2247
On December 21 2011 11:18 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 11:15 Refallen wrote:
Why is cascades suddenly a prime target for lynching? I really think he's town.

How do you have a good town read on a guy with a filter that doesn't even reach page 2? Please, quote what makes you think he is town.


Even though some of his posts has been accusing Palmar/Radfield of being scum and defending them, I think if you read the entirety of his filter, there seems to be a common theme in the sense that this is a guy who likes to form his own opinion instead of sheeping the other vets, and is wary of trusting the vets too much. Quotes like

Now spaackle has turned up innocent, and a blue too. If I was to redo my lynch, would I lynch spaackle again? The answer is yes. Though I was uncertain, he was the best option at that time, better than MrZentor. For the information of those who were not there near voting deadline, the two leading votegetters were MrZentor and spaackle. MrZentor had "softclaimed" blue so to speak. That left us spaackle. We had to vote and lynch for information. Certainly, we took an "easy lynch" so to speak, but the risk was worth it if we managed to catch a scum. Though we failed, it is expected as day 1 mafia lynches are rare apparently.


Look, I know we made a mistake. Still, this post says nothing except "I was so sure spaackle was townie and I was right" If another townie made this, what would you think of it? When you call people out town, you are automatically correct?
Firstly, BOTH ProfBadass and Radfield agreed he was a good lynch. And while you said spaackle was town, it was a sentence throwaway that was easily missed and not justified. Radfield gave his reasoning so we switched away from MrZentor.
Secondly, spaackle continued posting after you went to bed. He could and did post stuff that affected people's reads on him.
I'm disappointed. This post would feel scummy coming from a vet if it wasn't for the fact I feel you are basically confirmed right now.


dosen't seem like he's showing any fear, which I think is protown. Kind of like Sheth, he's been pretty active about asking people to post cases and will follow his own lynch targets instead of sheeping people. That's the feeling I got from him.

(Also since we're both from Singapore it's highly likely that he's asleep and won't be able to defend himself and for the past 8 hours, since it's early morning here.)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 21 2011 02:41 GMT
#2251
I am wary of him, but certainly not enough to be pushing for his lynch. I think my scum reads are pretty messed up this game, with both you and evantrees claiming power roles.

And I voted comprissent because out of the three choices given, (two if you look at deus-ex's posts), I feel like cascades is a townie. Nor do I think that, seeing as how most people have a null read on me at best, should I be doing eyebrow-raising things like voting for someone else altogether at this late hour.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 21 2011 03:09 GMT
#2256
On December 21 2011 12:04 zeks wrote:
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On December 21 2011 11:41 Refallen wrote:
I am wary of him, but certainly not enough to be pushing for his lynch. I think my scum reads are pretty messed up this game, with both you and evantrees claiming power roles.

And I voted comprissent because out of the three choices given, (two if you look at deus-ex's posts), I feel like cascades is a townie. Nor do I think that, seeing as how most people have a null read on me at best, should I be doing eyebrow-raising things like voting for someone else altogether at this late hour.


You can justify all your actions. Town players have absolutely nothing to hide. As long as you provide the right reasoning then you should have nothing to be afraid of


Yes, but I obviously haven't done a good job of that, seeing as how most people have a null read on me at best. Admittedly, it's my fault. I shouldn't be acting scummy and wasting town's time discussing/defending instead of the real scum.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#2262
Meh.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 03:34 GMT
#2347
I hope this clears me of some suspicion?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 07:21 GMT
#2368
On December 22 2011 12:36 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:34 Refallen wrote:
I hope this clears me of some suspicion?


Why does it clear you of suspicion?


Was pretty suspicious of Sheth and made my feelings known.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 07:42 GMT
#2371
I was pretty convinced cascades was townie but with Sheth trying so hard to prevent him from lynching and voting for nyc, and having nyc/compressient turn up townie and sheth turn up red, it makes it really hard not to think of cascades as scum at this point.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 08:24 GMT
#2372
On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:

1. jaj22 - Radfield
5. Comprissent - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield

3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield - Zeks
24. cascades - Zeks

I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up


Also I think this is a great idea, we should do it.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 12:24 GMT
#2377
Why does zeks have to out his role completely? Isn't it enough for him to say that he shot Sheth, barring any counterclaims? I would think outting his role in full would only benefit Mafia.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 12:26 GMT
#2379
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 20 2011 22:04 Cwave wrote:
  • jaj22 (Replaced MarserBlood) dunno
  • nyczbrandon lurker/reactive instead of proactive
  • GreYMisT Claims Medic(no counterclaim)
  • DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oldie
  • Comprissent lurkerish
  • TotallyNotTwoPeople Oldie
  • [blue]Spaackle/blue] the Politician
  • Refallen Vote error
  • Cwave vanilla town
  • zeks relaxed and pro town thinking
  • MrZentor Claims Floridian(cant confirm for town). Posts weird and scummy at times.
  • risk.nuke ADHD
  • prplhz Secret Service Agent
  • GiygaS Radical Protester
  • evantrees null
  • Arctocod the vanilla town
  • bumatlarge Mafia Godfather
  • Jitsu null
  • Radfield Pro town posting.
  • Eiii the District Attorney
  • xsksc the Private Investigator
  • Liquid`Sheth prob town
  • VisceraEyes the anarchist
  • cascades null
  • ProfessorBadass Mafia Minister of Propaganda


Thats 2 confirmed scum, 3 unconfirmed

5 dead confirmed blue and 2 alive blue(Giygas), Greymist(unless there where no doctors at the start of the game but thats a very slim chance).

1 dead confirmed town(arctocod) and 1 confirmed alive(myself) and 4 potential townies(Deus, Zeks, Radfield, Liquid'Zeth, )

That leaves jaj22, nyczbrandon, Comprissent, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Refallen, evantrees, Jitsu, cascades for 3 scum spots.

3 out of these 8 have a high potential to be scum and for now, Nyc is my prima suspect unless he puts up a good case why he shouldnt hang from a tree.







Cwave, this post interested me, especially the part about Liquid`Sheth being probably town. What made you think he was town?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#2380
On December 22 2011 21:25 cascades wrote:
@Refallen you were convinced that I was town yesterday, does that make you mafia? All I read from Sheth's filter is that he believes nycz is the right lynch. He could have easily jumped on the premade comprissent bandwagon instead of me, with a good case that actually garnered more votes.

Today's election is fairly easy, should be Radfield and a confirmed townie like Zeks.


Honestly cascades, I thought you were a townie all the way. Except for the fact that Sheth was trying so hard not to vote for you. You say he could have easily jumped on the comprissent bandwagon and probably that's true, but maybe he didn't want to be seen as bandwagoning and thus Mafia?

Also, I know Radfield is seen widely as most probably town, but has there been any thought in electing Zeks and another blue who has roleclaimed? (wait, are there any eligible for voting this cycle?)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 12:44 GMT
#2383
^ What zeks said. While he was respectful and posted a lot, some of his arguments were not very townish, imo.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 13:14 GMT
#2387
On December 22 2011 22:09 jaj22 wrote:
Oh, I missed:

5. Refallen with a suspiciously late/low-reasoning vote on Comprissent.


Again, end of day/night falls at a very inconvenient time for people living here in Singapore. I literally have to wake up at 9am and immediately catch up on the thread, and then start voting for someone. In this case, I just followed up on deus-ex's suggestion to choose among three candidates, when I didn't think cascades was scum.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 13:54 GMT
#2391
Radfield, tell me why you think you're scummy and I'll try to address those points.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 14:57 GMT
#2399
On December 22 2011 23:38 jaj22 wrote:
@Refallen: In that case, I strongly recommend that in future that you try to get a vote in during the previous (real) day, or at the very least, indicate your preferred lynch candidates. For today we can only do the latter.

Looks like even Radfield is taking his own towncred for granted today, although it wouldn't surprise me if his botched medic claim is fictional. Zentor seems like a good choice for election now that he's 100% confirmed, except that he's dangerously close to a modkill, so unless he shows up soon I don't see better candidates than Radfield/Zeks. I have a pretty strong town read on risk.nuke but I suspect too many people disagree.


I agree that it's mostly my fault, and I'll try to do better.

And yes, as I said earlier, I feel like we should be electing one of our confirmed townies instead of Radfield.

As for my preferred lynch candidates at the moment, I don't have any. But Radfield's town-iness has taken a hit in my eyes after the last few posts, especially with how he's, as you said, taking town for granted.

Obviously, cascades, who was a town read for me yesterday, also had his town-iness take a hit because of how Sheth was defending him and how Sheth flipped red. I still am far from sure that he is mafia, but if I had to pick a lynch today, I would choose to lynch him bar some more defense from him.

I think Cwave and risk.nuke are town.

Also, lastly, I've been trying to work my head around why evantrees died last night. Surely mafia had a better target, especially since evantrees already used his one-time power? People who were much more active?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 15:02 GMT
#2400
EBWOP:

Sorry, not Cwave, meant to type Jitsu.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 15:25 GMT
#2405
Why Radfield is town by Zeks

1. He claimed roleblock for (3?) straight days. Did anyone come out to counter claim the role block? No. Did we ever see a second vote appear on any voting list from his mayor power? No.


...I forgot about that point. Ok, he's town.
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