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On December 20 2011 22:11 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: lol i know who pushed for him. Radfield and I. Do you even read the thread? And why did you claim vanilla Townie right now? Did you see that i stated that people who pushed hardest for him are not automaticly scum? Scum problaly didnt even have to push hard for him with all the people jumping on board so easy. As for claiming, I'm town. Claimed it before when i tried to run for mayor day1. Didnt know back then that's its impossible to get elected if you arent a TL veteran with scumhunting credits or confirmed green/blue. Which is fair enough, lesson learned. Any thoughts on the 8 scumpotentials ? | ||
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On December 20 2011 22:23 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: Yes. Can you rank them somehow? I mean 8 is a lot. I'd also like to see some reasoning behind these people. You should at least filter them if you put them on your list. First, to answer your question to an extent, my number one is Nyc for scum. Reasoning is that this is done by elemination of people confirmed/high potential town, leaving the others to be potential scum. Secondly, i've just read through your filter and all you really do is post that you want opinions from mainly newby where you supply them a list and put them to work. Only real post you make is 6 days ago: On December 14 2011 01:50 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: mhh tbh i only read the thread once and so far i see a lot of players posting nonesense. zeks and risk performance pretty poorly... zentor might be coached scum. sheth looks like town to me. i got to reread prplhz and greymist since my reads on them have been pretty acurate in the past... erandorr being afk means he's scum. however this game is special, maybe he relys on curu. curus scumplay isnt less active compared to his townplay... yes. thats it so far. right now i am at the university and i have a meeting later on like 100km from here. i guess i'll be at home 3 hours before the lynch and try to talk to annul. i hope he can be around at the deadline. thats it so far The rest is (good) argueing and responding to other people but you never really contribute yourself. And now you repeat this with me, asking for more info. How about you give some yourself? Like you promised 2 days ago: On December 18 2011 01:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: hmm after filterin almost everyone individually, I made a scumranklist including scummyness of every player in this game. I'd like to discuss that list especially with radfield, Palmar and Syllo. Do you think it's better to post that list now or better at the end of the night. I think I got some correct and well reasoned townreads on several players... Maybe that would make them to scumtargets... Although the advantage to discuss that list today is that we lay down more pressure on the people who I don't have a townread on and we have more time... So what do you think... Moreover I know that you, Palmar and Syllo, already have such a list aswell. However I think we have some differences. If we exchange our opinions, I guess we could nail down most of the scumteam... Never delivered on this list so how about you give us your top 3 with reasoning? Would be very helpfull i think. | ||
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On December 21 2011 00:40 Jitsu wrote: Please do. He has been my number one for a great long while now. In response to [TNTP] asking for my top three, and explanations. 1st place: Comprissent is Top on my list. I posted a detailed case about him in the beginning after GreYMisT accused me of being mafia. Not sure if anyone commented on it or even read it. Since then, he only comes in to defend himself and keep people from lynching him. He posted one piece of analysis, which I didn't really see as helpful anyway. However, I acknowledge i'm tunneling him pretty hard, so maybe that's why I think he's useless/scum. 2nd place: My next suspect is nyczbrandon. Again, hasn't posted much and shows actually to be pretty useless. Might be a townie, but I think he's mafia trying to lay low and not garner suspicion. Looking through his filter, there actually really doesn't look like anything that stands out to me other than the fact that nothing stands out to me. 3rd place: This spot is the void that was Greymist. As of now, it has been replaced with Deus-Ex-Mafia. For an experienced Hydra, he hasn't contributed almost anything in the way of solid analysis of any one player, and just keeps asking other peoples opinions on what they think of other players. Looking at everything, I also think he has done a lot to divert attention attention to other players. Right now we are at a lull looking for people, but instead of asking others opinions, he should be looking for his own and giving his own speculations. With that being said, I still feel Comprissent is a strong-mafia read. Look, Comprissent is so scummy, he must be afraid of walking near pools for fear of falling in. He never contributes to town discussion, save to shed the spotlight and put it on someone else. He never posts except to defend himself, and than when discussion moves to someone else, he's back to sitting in the shadows. There are alot of lurkers in this game, and all of the have equal chance of being scum, but Comprissent is the strongest read for me. Watch, guaranteed he will come back within the next two pages and post some long winded counterattack against me trying to, yet again, divert attention from himself. Start. Posting. ##Vote: Comprissent Come at me, bro. This is in line with what i have on paper at the moment and what i posted earlier in terms of who is scum in my book. For me, Nyc is on spot one. More so because Comprissent is just so inactive it might just be bad town play instead of lurky scumplay. Deus-Ex isn't scum to me but if he keeps asking for info without supplying any himself, im gonna have to look into it again and consider what you just posted concerning him. Good post and for now ##Vote: Nyczbrandon | ||
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Some other people are saying they got townreads on zeks TotallyNotTwoPeople I haven't looked into this people myself yet but assuming I agree. ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-URmlfmcZk-I/TjB5RXKwVyI/AAAAAAAAB5Y/rD8ClNdP-R8/s320/Doing-it-wrong.jpg) While i agree with the names in there, you cant just put them on green if you haven't even checked them out. Or state who these people are that say they are on our good side. | ||
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On December 21 2011 01:47 risk.nuke wrote: Cwave take your idiotic arse elshwhere and stop questioning or insulting me at every turn. I was going to check them, I never blindly trusts. And knock of with the whole I voted for curu first. I don't care if you put a mini subpost somewhere on how curu might be scum. Mafia does that to eachothr all the time, also infact everyone at some point writes something small about everyone. You're all mistaking if you think that a little useless post against curu that accomplished nothing and means nothing will gain you more towncred depending on the time of it's posting. I dont care what you are gonna read or are gonna check. I care for information or stuff you actually have. Same goes for Deusex promising a list but never giving any. I know you are highstrung but calling me idiotic for questioning assumptions you are making doesnt call for uncreative qq. And look, you have now promised us to look into them. Bueno. | ||
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Lol what? | ||
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On December 21 2011 23:48 zeks wrote: small quirk of mine.. i notice a lot of people are spelling deus-ex-mafia's name wrong its dEus not dUes On December 21 2011 06:32 zeks wrote: btw i have security of defense power from Arc Assuming you have security of defense power and assuming that means you have a nuke--> you now nuked someone(Dues??), we are now waiting for a modpost? Why launch now? | ||
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Those last 8 have a high chance of containing the last 2 scum(sidenote: If greymist,Mrzentor and zeks are town as they claim and state) Scumflag from me will be on Cascades. Risk.nuke on watch as he insults when pocked. Might be personality, might be scumpanic. I also agree with selecting two candidates and dividing who is voted by who. On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote: Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election: 1. jaj22 - Radfield 5. Comprissent - Radfield 6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield 8. Refallen - Radfield 9. Cwave - Radfield 10. zeks - Radfield 12. risk.nuke - Radfield 18. Jitsu - Radfield 3. GreYMisT - Zeks 4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks 11. MrZentor - Zeks 19. Radfield - Zeks 24. cascades - Zeks I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up Good list Zeks. But..... Comprissent was lynched. We only have 12 alive in our town. Why is he in there in your list? To continue, it means 3/5 unconfirmed including Cascades on Zeks and 5/8 unconfirmed on Radfield. Is that strict enough to prevent mafia tempering with the election? Would a larger gap between 1 and 2 not give us a safer construction? | ||
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On December 22 2011 19:09 Cwave wrote: Unless Zeks did some ultrapowerplay as scum by shooting Seth, he is now #12 confirmed town(myself included as i'm a vanilla townie and this is my excel)
Those last 8 have a high chance of containing the last 2 scum(sidenote: If greymist,Mrzentor and zeks are town as they claim and state) Scumflag from me will be on Cascades. Risk.nuke on watch as he insults when pocked. Might be personality, might be scumpanic. I also agree with selecting two candidates and dividing who is voted by who. Good list Zeks. But..... Comprissent was lynched. We only have 12 alive in our town. Why is he in there in your list? To continue, it means 3/5 unconfirmed including Cascades on Zeks and 5/8 unconfirmed on Radfield. Is that strict enough to prevent mafia tempering with the election? Would a larger gap between 1 and 2 not give us a safer construction? Fixed list. ffkin code. | ||
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On December 22 2011 21:26 Refallen wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 20 2011 22:04 Cwave wrote:
Thats 2 confirmed scum, 3 unconfirmed 5 dead confirmed blue and 2 alive blue(Giygas), Greymist(unless there where no doctors at the start of the game but thats a very slim chance). 1 dead confirmed town(arctocod) and 1 confirmed alive(myself) and 4 potential townies(Deus, Zeks, Radfield, Liquid'Zeth, ) That leaves jaj22, nyczbrandon, Comprissent, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Refallen, evantrees, Jitsu, cascades for 3 scum spots. 3 out of these 8 have a high potential to be scum and for now, Nyc is my prima suspect unless he puts up a good case why he shouldnt hang from a tree. Cwave, this post interested me, especially the part about Liquid`Sheth being probably town. What made you think he was town? He posted calm and constructive, tried to contribute and had good posts with arguments about people in the spotlight. I didn't see scum in him. | ||
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On December 22 2011 22:00 jaj22 wrote: I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote: 1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing. Yeps, im sleeping when the game day/night ends. \o> Dutch | ||
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On December 22 2011 22:00 jaj22 wrote: I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote: 1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing. And i didnt switch to Cascades as i believed Nyc had a higher potential to be scum. Turned out he was just... not usefull & active. | ||
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On December 22 2011 22:43 Radfield wrote: I fully agree with zeks at this point. His voting list is good, and he should definitely be intelligence officer. Additionally it makes sense for me to be postmaster general, as then the two of us can co-ordinate our roles. I actually messed up and went out drinking, then came home to find that the PM I thought I sent to Kita was not actually sent. I had planned on protecting you though Greymist, so it's all good anyways. I still have two protections left. I will be gone almost all today, and much of tomorrow unfortunately. I still have a slight town read on cascades, so would prefer to not lynch him today, but I would not be particularly sad if he was lynched. I am still suspicious of both Refallen and Cwave, but both have little things that make me think they are town. I would not be at all against lynching either one. The Marserblood replacement should be looked into, and possibly lynched depending on what he has actually done.... Jitsu I'm unsure of, as I haven't read his filter in quite some time. In fact, I need to reread all these filters to get a real good picture of who to lynch, but I simply won't have time over the next two days. I'm happy to defer to who you guys think is the best lynch between those 4(5). In relative order of scumminess: Scummy Cwave Refallen Cascades Marserblood(jaj) Jitsu Prob Town TnTP risk.nuke dues-ex Town Zentor Greymist Zeks You list me as scummy but then give a hint at me having town hints. Nowhere do you post anything constructive to support this.... To repeat, im vanilla town and it's a mistake to lynch me. Provide a case for me being town/mafia or focus on something actually usefull. If you can't, dont be so useless with making mediocre posts. Also selecting you for an office job when you can't even execute your given role(medic......) in the first place does not computee. More so when you allready state you are gonna be afk for this day cycle. | ||
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Day One Election Final Tally Radfield : risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Spaackle, Comprissent, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, Bumatlarge, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, ProfessorBadass : GreYMisT, xsksc, prplhz, GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, Radfield DEUS-ex-MAFIA : TotallyNotTwoPeople TotallyNotTwoPeople : evantrees prplhz: Arctocod The 3 out of 5 confirmed mafia go for Radfield day1. Assumption is that due to the withdrawel of Arctocod, they could have all voted for the same target(Radfield) Final Election Tally Day Two GiygaS : evantrees, Cwave, TotallyNotTwoPeople, VisceraEyes, Radfield, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, MrZentor, cascades, nyczbrandon, Arctocod Arctocod : ProfessorBadass, GiygaS, GreYMisT, Jitsu, Refallen, DEUS-ex-MAFIA DEUS-ex-MAFIA : Liquid`Sheth The 3 out of 5 confirmed mafia all go for a different target day2. Assumption that the strategy by the mafia is to divide over the candidates to avoid voting patterns being noticed. Bumatlarge needs a friend to vote with him so that gives Evantrees/Totally/Risk/Cascades as a potential. Then Prof also needs one friend to vote with him in their pool. Jitsu, Refallen or Deus. Day Three Election Final Tally DEUS-ex-MAFIA : Radfield, risk.nuke, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Comprissent, GreYMisT, Liquid`Sheth, zeks, nyczbrandon, GiygaS, jaj22 GreYMisT : Jitsu, Cwave, MrZentor, Refallen, evantrees, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Liquid`Sheth : cascades The confirmed 1 out of 3 mafia goes for Deus. Assuming the spread is continued Cascades stands out for voting on Seth. Among the voters of Greymist there is a high chance of a scum spreading out the love. Refallen, Jitsu and Deus-ex-Mafia stand out. Day One Lynch Final Tally Spaackle (11): Eiii, Refallen, Radfield, xsksc, GreYMisT, evantrees, ProfessorBadass, Liquid`Sheth, nyczbrandon, risk.nuke, MrZentor MrZentor (6): Cwave, MarserBlood, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Spaackle, Comprissent, zeks Nisani201 (4): Arctocod, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, GiygaS, prplhz, Comprissent (1): Jitsu GiygaS (1): Bumatlarge The 2 out of 5 confirmed mafia go for Spaackle. 1 goes for Giygas. Can’t pull much from this one. Day Two Lynch Final Tally ProfessorBadass: Arctocod, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Refallen, GreYMisT, VisceraEyes, Comprissent, Liquid`Sheth, Jitsu, GiygaS, zeks, bumatlarge , evantrees, cascades, MrZentor, nyczbrandon, Radfield nyczbrandon: Cwave, GreYMisT : TotallyNotTwoPeople risk.nuke : ProfessorBadass 2 out of 5 confirmed go for ProfessorBadass. ProfB goes for risk.nuke. Notice how Seth starts after which bumatgoes as well since the lynch picked up speed. High chance of all scum being in there since ProfBad even posts a give up post. Day Three Lynch Final Tally Comprissent : Radfield, Jitsu, evantrees, TotallyNotTwoPeople, MrZentor, zeks, Refallen, jaj22 cascades : DEUS-ex-MAFIA, risk.nuke, Comprissent, GreYMisT, GiygaS nyczbrandon : Liquid`Sheth, Cwave, cascades, The 1 out of 3 mafia goes for Nyc. Looking at this from a helicopterview I would like everyone to reevaluate Jitsu, Deus-ex-Mafia and above all, Cascades some more. My vote is reserverd for Cascades for now. | ||
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To repeat, im a vanilla townie and today i election voted on Radfield and lynch voted on cascades. | ||
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Cwave. Town. Green. Bad to lynch......  | ||
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On December 24 2011 01:12 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I already noticed the general tendency to be hostile to veteran players... Cwave was the one who started this... Cascades has one or two posts with similar content. Since I think that Curu is/was probably the only vet in the scumteam this behaviour makes sense for scum. I can't see why a townie would want to attack experienced players. It's not exactly contributing to our goals. This is why i find your play bad Deus. No contribution and just hogging lines. For you as a vet your effort to help our town has been mediocre and lined with post containing the mandatory lines and then an question at someone random. Nowhere are you confirmed, usefull or playing for the town. Only reason you are of some use is cause you get stuff in elections. Does everyone realise that people that have powers or win elections can be scum? Or is lynch all VT's who roleclaim till they are all dead the way its gonna go down. | ||
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