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evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
December 13 2011 02:02 GMT
#401
We do
Time Cycle:
Currently the deadline is 2200 EST[local]
This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle, 24 hour night cycle.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 13 2011 02:03 GMT
#402
On December 13 2011 10:53 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright, I just caught up on the thread.
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 03:08 Spaackle wrote:
For the lurkers in the thread, maybe a couple questions would get some activity:

1. What do you think of the No Pardon, No Exception rule?

2. Give your specific impressions of the campaigns so far, especially the major ones.

Remember, the more you get into the game you're playing, the more fun it is! :D

1. No Pardon should not be carried out until the very late game, where there's probably some weird scenario in which pardoning would be important. However I don't think we need to discuss that now because there are too many possibilities.

2. Radfield seems to be playing pro-town. Palmar is not taking his usual controversial stance that he normally seems to assume. This is not scummy (I even think he said somewhere that he was going to try out a new style) but at this point I trust Radfield a lot more.

##Vote: Radfield (for election)

Hey, what do you think about zeks? Don't you think we can skip pardon policy discussion until like, maybe night time when there's not much else to discuss? We have already spent a day figuring out who to elect, now we kinda need to focus on the lynch, wouldn't you agree?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#403
On December 13 2011 11:02 evantrees wrote:
We do
Time Cycle:
Currently the deadline is 2200 EST[local]
This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle, 24 hour night cycle.

Hey you seem to be following the thread but not participating too much.

How do you feel about zeks? What do you think about GreYMisT's case on Jitsu?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 13 2011 02:19 GMT
#404
On December 13 2011 09:07 prplhz wrote:
@Radfield

Hey, how do you suggest that we get started for real with the lynch discussion?


Same way we always do. Poke, prod, question, accuse, defend, etc.

Greymist, I think you're points against Jitsu are decent, but I'm not sure he's our best lynch. I don't readily have an alternative though.

We need to hear a lot more from these players:

1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


On December 12 2011 17:34 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Why am I running for Mayor?

I am infinitely smart, suave, charismatic, modest, able, active, amazing, modest, and honest. And Erandorr's not bad either.


Curu it's early, but what happened to your activity?
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 02:20 GMT
#405
O i thought we were voting for lynch and mayor today
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 13 2011 02:25 GMT
#406
On December 12 2011 17:20 Refallen wrote:
Hello! Second game here, let's have a good game.

I have 2 questions for the veterans who are running; which I'll like them to answer.

1. How effectively can you scumhunt with the mayor/pardoner position as compared to as a regular townie?
2. If you were scum, how damaging would it be for town if you got the mayor/pardoner position, in your own opinion?

Lastly, comparing these two questions, do you think the benefits of you being in the mayor/pardoner position if you were town outweigh the cons if it turns out you get the position as mafia?

Sorry if I'm being incoherent, really tired right now.


Hi Refallen, you seem to have opened up the game with 2 generic questions followed up with an apology. Not a great start.

On December 13 2011 10:49 Refallen wrote:
I think I would be voting for syllo/palmar here. They obviously have proven track records of being good town players so I think that having them elected would be a great help in directing town discussion. At the same time, I believe that the veterans know enough of how they play to be able to sniff them out if they actually are mafia (kind of a check&balance thing).


If it was only one player getting elected, would you still vote for Arctovod, or would you vote for me?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 13 2011 02:26 GMT
#407
On December 13 2011 11:20 nyczbrandon wrote:
O i thought we were voting for lynch and mayor today



We are voting for a lynch and mayor/pardoner today, but we still have 24 hours to do it in.

Daytime takes 48 hours
Nighttime takes 24 hours.

So I mafia "Day/Night cycle" actually takes 72 hours.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#408
On December 13 2011 11:26 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 11:20 nyczbrandon wrote:
O i thought we were voting for lynch and mayor today



We are voting for a lynch and mayor/pardoner today, but we still have 24 hours to do it in.

Daytime takes 48 hours
Nighttime takes 24 hours.

So I mafia "Day/Night cycle" actually takes 72 hours.


Hm okay i get it now ty for explaining
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 13 2011 02:34 GMT
#409
I'm not sure Rad. I think I might still be voting for arc, though the abscence of another strong role like the mayor/pardoner makes me want to vote you instead, because I would assume a scum hydra is harder to detect than you.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 13 2011 02:43 GMT
#410
Hey HarbingerofDoom(TNTP), in steamship you came out absolutely swinging as a townie. Here you are absolutely dragging your feet. Anything to add to the discussion?
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
December 13 2011 02:52 GMT
#411
On December 13 2011 06:19 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:16 evantrees wrote:
1. What do you think of the No Pardon, No Exception rule?

I like it the case of a mayor swung lynch bugs me a little though.
have to go out so I'll stop there for now.


Something doesn't sit right with me here. Come post, like, 5 minutes after Sheth calls him out for being a lurker, than covers and says he's going out.

And I didn't even understand the meat of his post.


Sorry had read up to page 17 and was leaving in a minute saw a question I could answer so I did. Don't feel like I can contribute much but will try to do what I can.

slightly clearer perhaps.
I agree with the No Pardon, No Exception rule but one thing that was bugging me a bit is a lynch swung by the mayor with his vote and/or tiebreaker more minor nonsense bugging me,but as has been stated don't need to worry about yet.


On December 13 2011 11:05 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 11:02 evantrees wrote:
We do
Time Cycle:
Currently the deadline is 2200 EST[local]
This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle, 24 hour night cycle.

Hey you seem to be following the thread but not participating too much.

How do you feel about zeks? What do you think about GreYMisT's case on Jitsu?


not sure on both I'll try and go over it again, and for reference voting for Arctocod at the moment, veteran argument winning me over.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 13 2011 03:00 GMT
#412
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
December 13 2011 03:12 GMT
#413
On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

Show nested quote +
1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.

I'd much rather keep zeks around 'cause at least he's posting and I don't at all think that the case on him is strong enough yet that we can safely call him scum. Instead we could lynch one of those guys who only have two posts, they're impossible to read anyway. What do you think about that plan?
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 13 2011 03:18 GMT
#414

On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

Show nested quote +


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one.

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.

I'd much rather keep zeks around 'cause at least he's posting and I don't at all think that the case on him is strong enough yet that we can safely call him scum. Instead we could lynch one of those guys who only have two posts, they're impossible to read anyway. What do you think about that plan?


We should lynch some lurkers to keep them active, but I don't think that will get us any mafia, because the mafia will end up shifting the vote to a non mafia lurker. I am just saying that given the current information, it would be best to lynch him. This could easily change with any new information or posts.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2011 03:32 GMT
#415
On December 13 2011 12:18 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +

On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

Show nested quote +


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one.

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.

I'd much rather keep zeks around 'cause at least he's posting and I don't at all think that the case on him is strong enough yet that we can safely call him scum. Instead we could lynch one of those guys who only have two posts, they're impossible to read anyway. What do you think about that plan?


We should lynch some lurkers to keep them active, but I don't think that will get us any mafia, because the mafia will end up shifting the vote to a non mafia lurker. I am just saying that given the current information, it would be best to lynch him. This could easily change with any new information or posts.


so you recognize that lynching lurkers won't kill mafia, but you still want to do it anyway? the hell?
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
December 13 2011 03:37 GMT
#416
Zeks is a null-read for me. Yeah the scumslips are pretty stupid but in my experiences I've found that these easy D1 lynches don't go too well.

If there are no other candidates besides him then I will definitely vote him. Otherwise I will wait for more.
Enjoy your day.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
December 13 2011 03:39 GMT
#417
We could also lynch a lurker (such as TotallyNotTwoPeople). Again, I want more information.
Enjoy your day.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 13 2011 03:46 GMT
#418
On December 13 2011 12:39 Nisani201 wrote:
We could also lynch a lurker (such as TotallyNotTwoPeople). Again, I want more information.


Nisani, what do you think about Jitsu? you have not commented on my case about him.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 13 2011 04:07 GMT
#419
On December 13 2011 09:24 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote:
I'm going to be voting Radfield for mayor/pardoner. He would be good to have in either role, and now that he's posted some more I'm pretty confident that he's legit. If anyone hasn't looked at the election voting thread yet, it's literally all rad/arc, so it looks like our candidates are decided unless anyone has some major objections.

I'm not going to lie, I generally don't really have any clue what's going on day 1, and this game is no exception. I like prpl and Deus' posting. People have called out zeks a few times, and if you filter his posts it's clearly not without reason-- he went from not wanting a rad/arc office to, twelve hours later, voting for both of them. When questioned about it, he sidesteps the issue entirely. Trying to lay low like that after silently making such a big swing in his stance isn't something I'm comfortable seeing, so I'm throwing my lynch vote on him now. I want to see this guy under more pressure!


What do you think about my post on Jitsu?


Jitsu wasn't really on my radar at all-- your arguments against him don't really point to anything weird in my eyes.

On December 13 2011 09:28 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 09:09 Eiii wrote:
I'm going to be voting Radfield for mayor/pardoner. He would be good to have in either role, and now that he's posted some more I'm pretty confident that he's legit. If anyone hasn't looked at the election voting thread yet, it's literally all rad/arc, so it looks like our candidates are decided unless anyone has some major objections.

I'm not going to lie, I generally don't really have any clue what's going on day 1, and this game is no exception. I like prpl and Deus' posting. People have called out zeks a few times, and if you filter his posts it's clearly not without reason-- he went from not wanting a rad/arc office to, twelve hours later, voting for both of them. When questioned about it, he sidesteps the issue entirely. Trying to lay low like that after silently making such a big swing in his stance isn't something I'm comfortable seeing, so I'm throwing my lynch vote on him now. I want to see this guy under more pressure!


Initially I didnt want Rad + Arc because of the potential for bad things and how Rad had linked themselves before Arc made a post but I was always down for Rad from the get go

Jeez am I not allowed to change my mind through the course of the game?

As of RIGHT NOW I don't care who's pardoner as long as its a vet and Rad gets mayor

How have I been laying low? I've answered all if not most of the questions directed at me and thrown my head out there. However you have posted next to nothing and one of your posts was

Show nested quote +
Woo!

Alright, I'm not going to be running for mayor or pardoner or anything. I'm going to be voting for one of the hydras, in all likelihood-- from my experience, multi-person players (especially with experienced, devoted mafia players behind them) can absolutely wreck games like this. Having a pro-town hydra behind a bodyguard should be town's goal for today, in my opinion.

Could we start discussing in advance how the pardoner should be used? I remember the pardoner being a pretty controversial role in the last game I played with one, so it'd be good if we could get people talking about how he should behave *before* we elect one. It seems to me that having a pardoner that can pardon *twice* is ridiculously powerful, and could probably win scum the game outright if a red got that spot. If anything, the person who gets pardoner needs to propose and discuss their actions in advance-- any sort of surprise pardoning of a lynch candidate needs to result in an immediate lynch of the pardoner.


You said you were voting for one of the hydras and now you're voting Radfield. This is the same crap you're accusing me for.

You come out of the wallcracks to throw a 2nd vote on me to get the wagon rolling after GiygaS voted for me. Suspicious



You're perfectly allowed to change your mind any time you want! The thing that stuck out is that you changed your mind silently, and when confronted about it sidestepped the issue completely.
I would be voting for one of the hydras (arc specifically) if he wasn't already going to be in the pardoner's spot, which is just where I'd like him to be! I'm accusing you of going from *not* wanting Rad/arc to be elected at all to trying to vote for them with some questionable handwaving-- I wasn't even considering rad at the time of my first post, based on his one vote-for-me post.
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#420
On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

Show nested quote +
1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.


Now I'm voting you for lynch :D
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