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On December 15 2011 08:07 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 15 2011 08:02 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:On December 15 2011 07:58 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum. same for Zentor. Why? Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing. Okay, this post. What is going on with this post? He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why? Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing). My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder. Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously? You do realise that YOU are nisani... He was saying that zentor and nisani were the top lynch candidates at that time, not that they should be now... No he was saying I am red. And his case builds around the fact that MrZentor and Nisani is scum and I'm their scumbuddy coming to protect them. No, I'm building a case based around your scummy bullshit bro. I never said they were red (and yes, I realize I'm Nisani). What I said was you were putting a stop to their lynch with your post, though I can see how you'd think that's what I meant. I was saying that the way you were going about stopping the lynch was scummy. So your case is I'm scummy because I'm stopping a lynch on two townies, okey now I get your logic.
LOL
No. That's not my point...although I have to ask, what makes you so certain that Zentor and I are townies? Seriously, inquiring minds want to know. That's information that only we and scum have, so explain how you've come across it with such certainty that you try and use it as a defense of my argument?
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On December 15 2011 08:37 GiygaS wrote:
Risk, you're kind of sidestepping my points...
Yes, could you respond to GiygaS points against you? I mean, you act like I've put you through the ringer, and I only JUST finished reading the thread - I haven't yet begun to tunnel you. Your repeated logical fallacies and appeals are only confirming my read on you. You're fucking caught bro, and I think town will agree with me by dusk tomorrow. Just sayin.
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Palmogism, what are your thoughts on risk.nuke please? As completely as you can.
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And Palmogism, why did you select GiygaS to be your vessel of destruction?
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On December 15 2011 09:39 GiygaS wrote:I sent him a way to tell me who to kill, as I for some reason thought a basically confirmed townie meant that his judgement would be more correct than others. When he bolded Eiii after 2 line-breaks was my cue to kill him. Again guys, I'm so sorry 
I get antsy when people talk about being "mod-confirmed" the way Palmogism has...Obviously the most logical assumption to make is that Mafia wanted Palmogism to be without protection, but why not Rad in that case? Why Palmogism instead of the LEADING candidate, the one who clearly has more town-cred and SHOULD be without protection? No one is mod-confirmed until a flip, and I want everyone to keep that in mind moving forward.
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On December 15 2011 09:42 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Arcto when you received the package from GiygaS was it anonymous or did it tell you it was him?
Arcto made it pretty clear that he didn't know who it was from - asking everyone to 'pretend to know what he's talking about' so he could determine who sent it.
Okay, I see what's happening now.
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Okay, so he wanted to confirm that it was from who it said it was from.
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On December 15 2011 09:46 Arctocod wrote:
Anonymous, but he made it quite clear in the thread that it was from him.
The fact GiygaS gave us the right to control the package said a shitton about his alignment. Syllo and I aren't always right, but we have a pretty good track record of hitting scum early in games, so sending us a PM with an explanation of his ability, and how we give him a signal to use it, is very, very pro-town. I really doubt scum would risk us hitting a red by basically giving us a vigilante shot on night 1.
Obviously you need to think we're town in order for GiygaS to be town, but I'm guessing most people already figured out that we're town by now.
So yeah, GiygaS is basically off the table as a lynch candidate.
Why can we not assume GiygaS is town mistakenly thinking that you're town, when you're in fact scum?
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Dr.BA, can we be voting-buddies?! I'm intrigued by your ideas, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter!
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On December 15 2011 09:46 Arctocod wrote:
Anonymous, but he made it quite clear in the thread that it was from him.
The fact GiygaS gave us the right to control the package said a shitton about his alignment. Syllo and I aren't always right, but we have a pretty good track record of hitting scum early in games, so sending us a PM with an explanation of his ability, and how we give him a signal to use it, is very, very pro-town. I really doubt scum would risk us hitting a red by basically giving us a vigilante shot on night 1.
Obviously you need to think we're town in order for GiygaS to be town, but I'm guessing most people already figured out that we're town by now.
So yeah, GiygaS is basically off the table as a lynch candidate.
Palmogism lies about the contents of the package. Why?
On December 15 2011 01:39 Arctocod wrote:
Hello Eiii
prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind.
you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal.
Clearly he read and understood the message, why say he didn't know who it was from? I understand wanting to CONFIRM who it was from, but he literally JUST said that the package was anonymous, yet 'Hi I'm GiygaS' was the first line in the message? WTF?
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On December 15 2011 10:00 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 15 2011 09:46 Arctocod wrote:
Anonymous, but he made it quite clear in the thread that it was from him.
The fact GiygaS gave us the right to control the package said a shitton about his alignment. Syllo and I aren't always right, but we have a pretty good track record of hitting scum early in games, so sending us a PM with an explanation of his ability, and how we give him a signal to use it, is very, very pro-town. I really doubt scum would risk us hitting a red by basically giving us a vigilante shot on night 1.
Obviously you need to think we're town in order for GiygaS to be town, but I'm guessing most people already figured out that we're town by now.
So yeah, GiygaS is basically off the table as a lynch candidate. Palmogism lies about the contents of the package. Why? On December 15 2011 01:39 Arctocod wrote:
Hello Eiii
prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind.
you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal. Clearly he read and understood the message, why say he didn't know who it was from? I understand wanting to CONFIRM who it was from, but he literally JUST said that the package was anonymous, yet 'Hi I'm GiygaS' was the first line in the message? WTF? You're an idiot. Anyone could had written "Hi this is Giygas"
In the future, please refrain from answering questions not directed at you please.
I ask because he EXPLICITLY said that the package was anonymous, yet GiygaS CLEARLY and EXPLICITLY said who it was from. I already said I can understand that he would want to CONFIRM who the package was from, please read my posts before you call me an idiot again. What I'm trying to understand is why Palmogism EXPLICITLY said the package was anonymous when asked, yet that information is contradictory to what GiygaS claimed he sent.
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On December 15 2011 09:59 Radfield wrote:Why did you kill Eiii Arcotcod? Specifically. I actually thought he was playing leaps and bounds over the last time we played(PYPIns). Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 08:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 14 2011 11:41 Radfield wrote:
I think risk looks pretty town right now. I think he legitimately suspects you curu. Bad lynch in my eyes. Oh because Rad said so. Makes sense. Radfield, can you explain how risk looks town to you? Like, could you explain a townie motivation for the Why? post I just quoted a bit ago? He's spotlighting himself like a madman. He's getting everyone worked up about him, and he's pulling no punches. I completely agreed with the WHY? post, Nisani and Zentor were weak lynches and easy for scum to pile on. He also seems to have absolutely no fear about looking scummy, which is generally a townie trait. However, that latest post DID look like a scum slip, but I can see where he was coming from. If the argument is that he is scummy for stopping those lynches, then that means one of Zentor or Nisani must have been scum. Him stopping the lynch on two townies is not scummy.
So you agreed with the part about "bandwagons are 99% of the time townie lynches / bussing scum"?
You agreed with the "all bandwagons are scum-influenced"?
Come on Radfield. Dig deep bro.
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Fine, whatever. That slot barely pays me any attention anyway, I'll just accept everyone else' explanations.
Fuck.
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But you said you agreed with it completely, man. This is what I'm talking about when I say you're being the most suspicious of the vets (although Palmogism is creeping up there)...because you're speaking in half-truths.
Why is that unimportant? He's literally saying 'you can't trust anyone pushing for a lynch because they're probably scum'. It's fear-mongering, and it's anti-town. How is that not important?
And why would scum not try and influence the lynch on days after day 1? Is it not in their best interest to have townies lynched all game long?
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On December 15 2011 10:23 ProfessorBadass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 10:12 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 10:02 ProfessorBadass wrote:
lol this just looks like a stupid attempt to waste a Medic protection on you before you get hanged.
If you were Town and looking like you were going to get lynched why the hell would they ever shoot you? Your ignorence just makes you look scum. Tell me you can't think of a single reason in that scenario so palmar can lynch you. I wouldn't get lynched tomorrow. You make it sound like it's in stone but really it's just you three who are idiots or/and mafia. ViceraEye, after your performance today I can call you whatever I want. You should be happy I call you idiot and don't just ignore you. You're worthless and suspected. No I can't think of a single scenario why anyone would want to protect you especially when it is highly likely Arctocod was knocked out of office so he wouldn't get protection. Just looks like flailing scum trying to exert influence in any way he can. Keep digging your own grave buddy.
Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from?
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On December 15 2011 10:30 ProfessorBadass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 15 2011 10:23 ProfessorBadass wrote:On December 15 2011 10:12 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 10:02 ProfessorBadass wrote:
lol this just looks like a stupid attempt to waste a Medic protection on you before you get hanged.
If you were Town and looking like you were going to get lynched why the hell would they ever shoot you? Your ignorence just makes you look scum. Tell me you can't think of a single reason in that scenario so palmar can lynch you. I wouldn't get lynched tomorrow. You make it sound like it's in stone but really it's just you three who are idiots or/and mafia. ViceraEye, after your performance today I can call you whatever I want. You should be happy I call you idiot and don't just ignore you. You're worthless and suspected. No I can't think of a single scenario why anyone would want to protect you especially when it is highly likely Arctocod was knocked out of office so he wouldn't get protection. Just looks like flailing scum trying to exert influence in any way he can. Keep digging your own grave buddy. Maybe you can answer this: why would scum knock out Palmogism rather than Rad, who was leading for Mayor, and therefor had more town-cred (or whatever gets you elected in these things) than Palmogism? Why not knock out the Mayor if they're looking for someone 'dangerous' to them to 'remove protections' from? Why would I know that? Maybe they thought two good players > 1. Maybe they think Palmar/syllo are better players than Radfield. I would argue against your Mayor point too, I preferred to put Palmar/syllo as Pardoner over Mayor because I feared Radfield's scum play a lot more. Where are you going with these questions?
I didn't say you would 'know' that, I was asking if you could think of any scum motivations for it. I haven't played ANY election games, so I'm struggling with the nuances of the setup. And I'm not going anywhere, I'm just trying to make sense of the recent events.
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On December 15 2011 10:53 bumatlarge wrote:
What was the arcotod withdrawal about? And is the night not over? Eiii was just killed by a instant vig or something?
He was apparently 'force withdrawn' or something...yes, night ends in like 2 or 3 hours (I can never figure out exactly when this shit happens XD) and yes, Eiii just died to a day-vig controlled by Palmogism supplied by GiygaS.
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I'm back y'all. I still want risk dead, and that's who I'll be voting in the lynch for.
Not sure on the election mechanics...so whoever gets first place will get the Secretary of Defense and whoever gets 2nd gets the Surgeon General, is that right?
Sheth: If I had to call down the thunder, it would be on risk.nuke 100%.
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On December 16 2011 04:00 Arctocod wrote:
MrZentor send in your action to extend the day
Did you do this exclusively to confirm his claim guy? Like, was there any other reason to have him burn that power today?
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