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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 07:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Can someone answer this plz before I cast my election vote? It is now time to elect our newest officials! The winner will be rewarded the title of Surgeon General, while the runner up will become the new Secretary of Defense. Both elected officials will be pardoned during the day two lynch. Radfield and ProfessorBadass are ineligible for election this cycle. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:16 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @greymist What about nyczbrandon makes him seem like scum to you rather than newbie-town? Do you think scum would be letting one of their members say things like: If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? Dammit, wrong account. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:17 Radfield wrote: Most scum teams don't take an active role in the posting of their members. In fact many scum teams don't really post much at all in their QT outside of KP and role discussion. Hmm, I seem to recall seeing some ideas for posts/posts made in quicktopics before posting them in the thread from past games I have read through, and I have certainly seen some coaching of newbies in them. Regardless, this part still stands: If you believe he is scum, I presume you also believe he was told to play the newbie card rather hard? Unless Greymist believes nycz decided to use that strategy on his own and then decided to ask: How many reds are in this game btw? on his own as well. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: I bolded the relevant part in red. However I am not sure yet if it's really a scumtell. I thought about the setup in general and about the possibility that Rad/palmogism/curu/prplhz and I are town. (probably greymist and VE, too)... | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 09:48 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: 1. I hate people who ask something and disappear directly after that. 2. I filtered you guys and you did nothing this game. No real opinion given on anything axcept risk, greymist and zentor. These players have been discussed several times and nearly everyone gave an opinion. And you only repeated thing that have already been said. I think you're the scumhydra among us hydras. I have been posting between games of HoN. I admit I didn't do much day 1. I don't see how that makes us scum. As for your question as to who among the vets I thought was most likely scum, I am currently leaning toward professor badass, although not strongly. Also, please point out who else actually built a case on greymist like I did. I know risk called him scum, but did not post a cast. You say I have only repeated things, so it should be easy to do. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:14 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: I have been posting between games of HoN. I admit I didn't do much day 1. I don't see how that makes us scum. As for your question as to who among the vets I thought was most likely scum, I am currently leaning toward professor badass, although not strongly. Also, please point out who else actually built a case on greymist like I did. I know risk called him scum, but did not post a cast. You say I have only repeated things, so it should be easy to do. Oh, unless you want to count greymist among the vets, in which case I am obviously favoring him as the scum. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:20 GiygaS wrote: Has anyone realized that Graymist is targetted by people under suspicion right now, and all of them aren't with evidence? TNTP went to Graymist with no evidence, and Risk has been tunneling him the entire game (or at least day 1). Can you quote that suspicion on me from before I was making a case on greymist? Also, are you saying that him being the only person to vote for all 3 of the bandwagon lynches, as well as constantly fishing around for anyone that other people will agree on doesn't seem somewhat scummy? Look at his lynch choices so far, mostly a bunch of largely useless lurkers that nobody would blame him for if they are mislynches. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: hmm interesting. I have one more question: Do you think the nightshots of the scumteam were optimal, if not, who would you have been shot? If there was no medic on arctocod it would have been fairly optimal. And who would I have shot? Uh...assuming no blocked shots arctocod, yourself, and prpl probably? If worried about blocked shots, maybe something like you, prpl, and dropbear and hope any/all medics are busy protecting arctocod. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:38 Jitsu wrote: @evantrees. Sure. It doesn't matter; I think you can spin it either way. He uses his ability with a little under 2 Hours left to use it, than posts how he "thought he had two hours remaining to put votes in and has to make a hasty decision. Regardless, I think it's funny how you came to his defense rather forcefully, no? Also, you seem pretty accurate with the timing on the ability. How did you know it was used roughly around 2 hours and 15 minutes, to the minute? Maybe a scum player said "Use that ability, there is only 15 minutes left" and it stuck in your mind? ...Or maybe he looked at the time on the mod post stating his withdrawal? -_- | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:47 GiygaS wrote: Deus seems to be only asking questions to people that he suspects as a mafia. I thought you picked up that yourself. Anyway, thanks for giving some reasoning behind your suspicions on Greymist. ...I posted my case on greymist before he asked me anything... | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:48 GreYMisT wrote: A lot of us were voting for MrZentor, he claimed blue, at that point in the game not a lot of us had a good idea of who to lynch, so I went with nisani. Partly because he doesnt normally lurk in the games i have played with him as town, but also because of the reasons i listed. Near the end of the day radfield/Profbadass found that contradiction of spaakle's which again convinced many of us to switch. So far your only case on me is that I am playing in a similar way as steamship. check steamship again. When i was scum there i obviously knew who was on my team and who wasnt, and i reflected that by never straying off my targets except for a few select times. this game I am unsure of who is scum, and am allowed to change my mind and vote. You also didn't have to unvote to vote for someone else in that game ;-) Even assuming I am right about you being scum, there are 4 other scum to find, so I guess it's about time for me to start looking more into that. I'll be keeping my eye on you though, and as I said before, I would certainly appreciate it if others that have played with greymist before could weigh in on his play so far. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
Also, please point out who else actually built a case on greymist like I did. I know risk called him scum, but did not post a cast. You say I have only repeated things, so it should be easy to do. Giygas, you never followed up on this at all: Can you quote that suspicion on me from before I was making a case on greymist? On December 16 2011 10:49 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: ...I posted my case on greymist before he asked me anything... @Curu If you are actually town, this will make me 3 for 3 on having a townie martyr themselves in games I have played, and 2 for 3 on it happening well before their fate was sealed. Whether you are martyring mafia, or actually martyring town, I am tired of this bullshit. But you probably can't respond to this anyway, *sigh* | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:59 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Hey, just checking in. Reading what I can and thinking. Just thinking a lot. I finally got into the Pre-Release of SWTOR and trying to work a lot more sense I haven't been too much lately. Will be posting my thoughts on a lot of this chat whenever I have more time. Tomorrow I have stream / gym / stream literally all day, so will probably be inactive like today again then. Will try and keep up and if I think of anything I'll post it. ...? Also, what are you even asking me here: TNTP, What makes you any different in the argument Arcto + Deus are making about Curu? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
Why would being elected make you survive the night? I see no bodyguards mentioned for these positions. Or are those two statements not related? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
I agree in wanting discussion going on besides just the Curu/ProfessorBadass lynch. I believe I mentioned it before, but I am leaning toward newbie town over newbie scum on nycz. As I mentioned before, I think if he was on a scum team they would have offered him at least some pointers on his play to make it less useless. If I am correct about him being town, I'd really appreciate it if he could step it up and be more active and post some well thought-out analysis on someone. At the very least he could do what he said he would do here:+ Show Spoiler + @nycz Have you looked at any of the guides/records of previous games? Regarding evantrees, I see a lot of the stuff that scum loves to do to be 'useful', like answering things that can be answered by looking in the op, looking at the voting thread, etc. I would be much more comfortable lynching him than I would be lynching nycz. @evantrees How about you give your top 2 scum reads and some analysis on them? You said you were trying to be helpful, and your scum reads will be infinitely more helpful than things like:+ Show Spoiler + We do Time Cycle: Currently the deadline is 2200 EST[local] This game will follow a 48 hour day cycle, 24 hour night cycle. last one took him a few minutes(at 12:19) as well, hopefully not 19 minutes this time. He's making it appropriately themed I suppose. too try keep it at 3 as long as possible as in not go down to 4 members Total Mafia = 5 Mafia kp=#mafia/2 (rounded up) Elected peopel can't be lynched that day. lynchproof for the day only + some sort of ability most likely, expecting Police Chief to show up sometime given the dead list from day 1 but what that would do not sure. so assuming radfield is to be believed about being roleblocked. I could list more, but I think you get the point.the mafia has attorney used a roleblocker and 3 unknowns possibly one a vanilla goon. I really doubt more than 1 vanilla goon given the election. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 17 2011 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote: GiygaS, why did you vote twice for ProfessorBadass? His first vote didn't count as it had a misspelling. On December 17 2011 06:07 GreYMisT wrote: also sheth and giygas your votes are formatted incorrectly. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 17 2011 08:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Ahhh...missed I read that post and looked at the voting thread and didn't see anything immediately wrong with it so I disregarded. I got ya now.  So, AbsolutelySingularEntity, if Curu were somehow unlynchable today, who would you want to lynch and why? ...have you been reading my posts? If so, the answer to that question should be quite obvious. Although I still haven't received a straight answer on how his play this game compares to his normal town play. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 17 2011 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Then why didn't you ask that instead of being intentionally oblique? (see what I did there?) And no, I had no particular reason other than mild annoyance at you considering that question necessary at all. Based on the post below yours though, maybe I somehow did need to be more clear in my answer -_-Hey - no need to be intentionally oblique, I just wanted to know if your stance on Grey remains the same, and whether the points you've raised have been properly addressed in your opinion. Yes, I've been reading your posts. I've been reading them quite carefully, in fact. Do you have a reason to not give me a straight answer? Also, I dislike this explanation from greymist: Near the end of the day radfield/Profbadass found that contradiction of spaakle's which again convinced many of us to switch. especially considering the contradiction explanation from professorbadass: Two vastly contradicting opinions when the only thing that has changed is Town sentiment towards Nisani. Is something that I think he is guilty of as well. (Changing his opinion based on town sentiment that is) Also, I don't see how a newbie tending to follow the general consensus is a scum tell, let alone a reason to disregard your previous suspect as soon as it is pointed out. On December 17 2011 09:11 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066¤tpage=2 this is the towncuru + MASSIVE amount of PMs with me and mig... That post was not referring to Curu, as you should have been aware of. Also, you still haven't answered what I asked of you twice now. Deus, I thought you said I was the scum hydra, and that it was possible there are no vets on the scum team. Why did you switch to Curu so easily? Also, you never answered me: Are you ignoring me because you think I'm scum, do you think I'm scum because you are actually just ignoring me, or are you ignoring me because you are scum? | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
I still have no idea what you were asking me with this: TNTP, What makes you any different in the argument Arcto + Deus are making about Curu? The way I interpret it you are asking how am I not scum on the basis of the same accusations as those made against Curu...but the main post Arcto originally made on Curu was: Pretty sure curu is scum; he thinks he can get away AGAIN with not posting now that day was extended, pretends he doesn't know why Erandorr isn't posting/caring when I know for almost a fact he does. Wanted to lynch risk on day 1 but when rad disagreed with him he quickly offered another alternative, despite sounding quite convinced that risk is scum. Note this is despite the fact that he claims to be suspicious of radfield. Erandorr wouldn't join a game and then not post... unless he rolled scum. Of which I don't see how a single line of it could be applied to me. | ||
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TotallyNotTwoPeople
United States160 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:23 Liquid`Sheth wrote: @TNTP You were being inactive at the time as well. You are a hydra who is really only one person. The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. The part about Erandorr not joining a game and not posting doesn't apply to you obviously, but you weren't really posting much as well. It wasn't a great question I just really wanted you in the discussion. And I was trying to start up other discussion then the posts on Curu. ...what? My friend was traveling today and therefore I haven't been in touch with him and he hasn't been keeping up with the thread. He'll be back and contributing when he can. The being inactive as scum is part of Erandorr's meta...I have no scum meta as I have yet to be scum, so that part doesn't apply to me either. The rest of Arcto's post is actually just filler so we could push and see what happened. What in the fuck is that? How was the rest of it filler? How do you know it was just a pressure play? You didn't write the post. | ||
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