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Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 03:47 GMT
#1484
I'm no scum and I'm quite confused why I've been labelled as scum. I know radfield suspected me because of my first post (says I'm starting with an apology??) and also because I asked clarifying questions, but that's just what I do. I had been lurking during the first day, but that was because I was busy, as I've already pointed out. Jitsu pointed out that I "conveniently appeared" 2 hours before voting time during the first day, but that was simply because of timezone differences. Next, I hopped on the bandwagon because 1. I didn't know it wasn't majority lynch so I was afraid of a no-lynch situation that I thought would not be good for town at all, and 2. Many people were bandwagonning him already so I decided to go along and vote Spaackle (admittedly not exactly towny but as I said, I really had no time).

Hope I've addressed your points.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 14:09 GMT
#1516
deus-ex, why do you say that Giygas is a poor choice? I think the element of him being a nigh-confirmed townie is very important here, one that outweighs the experience that veterans may have who might use the role better. If we vote giygas, even if he can't utilize the role as well as some veterans, at least weknow he's a townie.

(And also didn't we establish that giygas should be surgeon and arc to be SoD?)
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:06 GMT
#1520
Sheth, do you agree that if it comes down to a lynch between risk.nuke and ProfBadass, it is a much better choice to lynch ProfBadass, seeing as how he is a pardoner?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:15 GMT
#1522
I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:20 GMT
#1524
When are we ever going to be lynching Arcto or Giygas?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#1529
On December 17 2011 02:26 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 02:15 Refallen wrote:
I'm not sure if that'll change my decision. When the pardon is used, I think Mafia automatically gains, since now we've wasted a Day cycle while Mafia can go on killing people at night. If someone were to suggest ProfBadass to use his pardons as a way to prove his innocence, I wouldn't sign off on that. I'll probably still vote ProfBadass, based on Arc's analysis.


Why would we need ProfBA to use his pardon as a way to prove innocence? We voted him in as the pardoner. Nothing is saying he isn't the mafia alignment though.


We voted him in as pardoner in hardly the most relaxed of circumstances. And upon reflection there appears to be some suspicions based around him (see Arctocod). So yes, we do need some proof that he's not mafia, though using a pardon is hardly a smart way of going about that.

Anyway, I'm heading to bed.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 17 2011 02:09 GMT
#1691
Also the role of silencing someone is definitely more Mafiaish then townish
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 17 2011 02:14 GMT
#1693
Maybe but even the politician has a lot of townie uses, but silencing someone is something I don't think a townie would do.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 17 2011 07:40 GMT
#1721
^^ good point by deus do not double lynch!!
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#1812
Haha VE no idea where that came from, but well done!

evan claim when the night is over if you're a powerrole, no sense to do it during the night.

I want to take a closer look at Sheth, and maybe Radfield too.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 18 2011 16:37 GMT
#1843
On December 18 2011 23:28 Radfield wrote:
Damn, I was writing up a post with the pertinent quote of ProfBad, but somehow lost it. It wasn't particularly useful anyways, so I'll just write the coles notes version instead:

* risk.nuke is likely town, simply due to the energy that ProfBad put into discrediting him, and trying to get him lynched.

* ProfBad made 2 real cases, both in the same post, on risk.nuke and cwave. However the case on Cwave is pretty weak, and he never mentions him again to my knowledge.

* Prof is willing to bus his teammates, as he consistently calls out Dropbear(Bum-GF) early game. However calling out the godfather is pretty common scum-play, as you want to encourage enough suspicion to draw DT checks.

*Calls out nyczbrandon's posts a couple times, but writes them off as bad townie.

* Fights against Dues-ex for mayor position, argues over a few other things as well. Added with a few other things, Dues is likely town.

* Zeks also looks better based on his interactions with ProfBad. Basically calling out the pardoner push as scum driven, and ProfBad calling him a dumbass

Bum basically said very little, but posted his suspicions against both evantrees and refallen. However he quickly retracted his suspicion against Refallen, but it was done in such a way that Refallen may be town. Not sure yet.


So, the vote list for ProfessorBadass as Pardoner. Seems highly unlikely to me that there would be zero scum on this wagon. I would in fact think scum would get on early to try and jolt it into action.

GreYMisT,
xsksc,
prplhz,

GiygaS,
Eiii,
Refallen,
Radfield

Assuming you believe me to be town(and apparantly green?!) where does that leave us?

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll tell you where it leaves me, the same place I have been for a while. Greymist is scum


I'm not 100% sure you're town yet. However, I do agree that there are much more viable lynch targets than you, especially for the double lynch tomorrow.

And I'm town
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 18 2011 17:06 GMT
#1846
This is for the next day jitsu since pardoned cant use pardon anymlre
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 19 2011 10:19 GMT
#1910
On December 19 2011 03:02 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 02:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i had refallen on my townlist.
greymist is 95% scum.

will get back to this later and advice annul to post my list 1min before the night ends.


Just noting this for now, notice how dues (supersoft) said earlier that he is very good at telling my town from my scum, and because of this he would research me. Now notice how he waits for both arcticod and radfield to voice their suspicions before he posts. If he is so sure I am "95%" scum and he has as good of reads as he claims, why not say this earlier instead of waiting for Arcto and rad?



Hardly a point, and you're not exactly helping your case by saying how two very good players think you're scum (one confirmed town, too).


I explained my reasoning earlier about the suggestion for MrZentor as secretary of defense. Remember at that time I thought it was a public rolecheck. I suggested Zentor because:

A. He already claimed his role in thread, allowing us to check if he was Lyning or not.

B. putting someone in who had already claimed would protect other blues from exposure

C. I did not believe any powers were associated with this role


Also, this did not make sense at all. The most definite clear choices for the Secretary of Defense and Surgeon were definitely Arc and Giygas, bar none. Your premise of how putting in Zentor would protect other blues is ridiculous. How would that work? Lastly, I for one thought that Zentor's claimed ability was very very believable.

Also, evantrees you need to stop nitpicking on minor issues like vote formatting. Lastly, we really shouldn't be discussing modkills here. What's the point of that?

For now, I'm leaning towards lynching Greymist.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 19 2011 10:20 GMT
#1911
And my bad for double posting, but I should add that repeatedly pointing out people who 'voted wrongly' and trying to get them modkilled does not look at all townish in my eyes, evantrees.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#1985
I really disagree about Cascades, I actually have a pretty strong town read on him. Him saying that he would lynch spaakles if first night repeats itself is, imo, not scummish in any way. Rather, it is a townie sentiment, that even though he flipped blue, at that time, he was probably the best lynch available to us.

Also, I don't see how suspecting Radfield = anti-town, as Greymist tried to make a case on.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 02:31 GMT
#2073
If we have no counterclaimw e need to find another lynch.

Also, Cwave, stop tunneling me with that retarded point. Like I said, I really did not have time to vote in day 1.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 03:26 GMT
#2076
Totally, I'm suspicious of sheth and Cwave, evantrees as well. I'll post in more detail later.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 04:26 GMT
#2078
I'm no scum. I think I have been pretty outspoken at posting my suspicions about ProfBadass, and he flipped red. I don't get what you mean by how my worst post is that. I'm saying that we would never be lynching Arcto and Giygas, if you look at the context properly. And lol, I didn't even notice I posted that formatting thing, that is my bad totally.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 04:37 GMT
#2079
Ok, so I'm having a bad feeling about sheth because of this. He has accused several people over the course of this thread of being mafia, let's list them out now.

Day 1
- zeks
- MrZentor (claimed blue?)
- prplhz (VT)

And then he bandwagoned spaackle, which is fine, except that he flipped blue too.

Day 2

- really convoluted case on Giygas (who by the way I think most of us can say is definitely town)
- really resistant on voting for ProfBadass until it seems like his lynching is inevitable (then jumped on the bandwagon and said how Greymist & Jitsu actually posted logic as an excuse? to vote ProfBadass)

All these things when taken in isolation probably dosen't mean much, but I have a bad feeling when it all comes from the same person.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 20 2011 07:50 GMT
#2090
@Totally

I'm not sure yet; Sheth has been active in defending himself, and he hasn't given me outright mafia tells like Curu, so I'm looking for better lynch targets. What do you think of Sheth?
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