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1. jaj22 - Radfield 6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield 8. Refallen - Radfield 9. Cwave - Radfield 10. zeks - Radfield 12. risk.nuke - Radfield 18. Jitsu - Radfield 24. cascades - Radfield
3. GreYMisT - Zeks 4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks 11. MrZentor - Zeks 19. Radfield x2 - Zeks
Reminder please vote this way in election TYVM
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so zeks, you want to stack multiple powers (3) on you when mafia have 1 kp and we don't have any medic.
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On December 23 2011 23:50 risk.nuke wrote: so zeks, you want to stack multiple powers (3) on you when mafia have 1 kp and we don't have any medic.
radfield is a 2-shot medic
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Vatican City State258 Posts
and the rb is dead. + i can save rad another night with my watcher ability.
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On December 24 2011 00:41 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: and the rb is dead. + i can save rad another night with my watcher ability.
On December 19 2011 23:31 kitaman27 wrote: If the police chief wishes to use his ability, it must be used night three
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 23 2011 13:40 GreYMisT wrote: Guys take a look at cwave for me. I became suspicious myself when I looked back and saw sheth had claimed he had "great posting" and that he looked really town. As i personally read his filter I came across a few things:
Not a lot of time spent trying to get elected (more than Curu though)
Immediate hostility towards all the vets (sensless hostility)
Does nothing to dissuade wagons forming on now known towies (me, spaakles) yet in the case of spaakles berated town for its incompetence
Almost never even mentions Sheth at all.
These to me all add up to scum. I would like to hear what others think too, as we do actually have to talk about a lynch today guys.
I fully agree with this Greymist. Cwave has not been making sense all game, and has consistently been voting townies. He makes tons of lists with little attached analysis which is generally a scum-tactic to "contribute". There was also the weird situation where ProfBad went flying off the handle yelling at Cwave for calling players who voted spaackle scummy. It was a bizarre overreaction at the time, but makes sense if they are distancing.
In addition he has been heaping suspicion on a wide variety of targets without actually pushing them:
*Greymist voters *Spaackle lynchers *ProfBad election voters etc.
He is by far my strongest scum read right now.
##Vote Cwave
Looking over Jaj, he looks fairly decent. He has been fairly active since replacing Marserblood, and has consistently making sense.
The votes yesterday were 8 Comprissent vs 5 Cascades, and Sheth was on nycbrandon. I have a feeling that if Cascades was actually scum, Sheth would have switched over to comprissent to ensure that cascades did not get lynched. That at least is what most scum would do. I'm going to reread him right now though(cascades).
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 24 2011 00:48 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 00:41 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: and the rb is dead. + i can save rad another night with my watcher ability. Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 23:31 kitaman27 wrote: If the police chief wishes to use his ability, it must be used night three
It's irrelevant though, because zeks can save me with his ability, and I can save zeks with mine. So we're in the clear.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 24 2011 00:48 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 00:41 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: and the rb is dead. + i can save rad another night with my watcher ability. Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 23:31 kitaman27 wrote: If the police chief wishes to use his ability, it must be used night three
ah fuck i thought i have another check in the pipeline...
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Vatican City State258 Posts
I already noticed the general tendency to be hostile to veteran players... Cwave was the one who started this... Cascades has one or two posts with similar content. Since I think that Curu is/was probably the only vet in the scumteam this behaviour makes sense for scum.
I can't see why a townie would want to attack experienced players. It's not exactly contributing to our goals.
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On December 24 2011 01:02 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 00:48 Jitsu wrote:On December 24 2011 00:41 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: and the rb is dead. + i can save rad another night with my watcher ability. On December 19 2011 23:31 kitaman27 wrote: If the police chief wishes to use his ability, it must be used night three ah fuck i thought i have another check in the pipeline...
You missed the clarification?
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@Zeks: ok.
@Radfield *Greymist voters *Spaackle lynchers First 2 doesn't really make sense rad.
When you say "*Greymist voters" do you mean as in didn't switch his vote after Greymist claimed. Greymist was townie driven and was looking like he was going down no matter what so mafia could just has likely not had voted for him. Imo it's not really a tell.
*Spaackle lynchers. You pretty much decided when you came storming in last minute that everyone should vote spaackle, even I was puzzled how to proceed so I can imagine less experienced people where more so. This also isn't much of a tell and once again I think mafia didn't need to hammer.
Also what do you think of dues?
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Vatican City State258 Posts
I mean I'd be a great success for scum to get radfield or myself lynched at this point of time. right now I still believe that our slow methodical strategy to narrow down the potential scumteammembers by confirming one townie after the other and lynching the questionable reads is the optimal strategy. That's the reason why I am not too sad that nycbla and comprissent are dead.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Looking over Cascades filter is not particularly reassuring.
His play is 80% defence, 19% speculation and 1% scumhunting.
Up until his case on Deus-ex he has done almost no scumhunting the entire game. I will say that there are still things that make him seem town, mainly the way in that he goes to lengths defending himself when he doesn't have to, and his defense against Greymist's accusations.
I wouldn't be super surprised if he flipped scum, but I still think that Cwave is a better candidate.
Both Refallen and TnTP have claimed blue roles, which takes us to a whopping 10 blue roles. However at least 4 or 5 of those roles are only worth half a blue(Politician, Day-Extender, Attorney, PSA, Lobbyist). For now I would take their claims at face-value. However I disagree that our current secret ballot voting has to be a scum power. It could very easily just be a game mechanic, and would be very strange for mafia to use it on this day instead of other days. In fact, I would expect the mafia to have a voting role like TnTP instead.
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Rad I'm not the least sold that cwave will bleed red, write a post where you take in what he's done good and bad and I'll judge that. I just read his filter and that post was a joke for a case.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 24 2011 01:13 risk.nuke wrote: @Zeks: ok.
@Radfield *Greymist voters *Spaackle lynchers First 2 doesn't really make sense rad.
When you say "*Greymist voters" do you mean as in didn't switch his vote after Greymist claimed. Greymist was townie driven and was looking like he was going down no matter what so mafia could just has likely not had voted for him. Imo it's not really a tell.
*Spaackle lynchers. You pretty much decided when you came storming in last minute that everyone should vote spaackle, even I was puzzled how to proceed so I can imagine less experienced people where more so. This also isn't much of a tell and once again I think mafia didn't need to hammer.
Also what do you think of dues?
What I was saying is that Cwave came in and heaped suspicion on the spaackle lynchers, and also tried to pushed suspicion on people who voted for greymist, yet never followed those things up. He simply threw out the suspicion and let it sit there.
I think Deus is probably town. I believe the slight scumminess that had crept into his play in the last 24-36 hours is due to him getting careless with his posting. He has less townie credentials than a number of other players though, so he'll end up getting lynched down the stretch if he is scum.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 24 2011 01:22 risk.nuke wrote: Rad I'm not the least sold that cwave will bleed red, write a post where you take in what he's done good and bad and I'll judge that. I just read his filter and that post was a joke for a case.
What has he done good? What are his contributions this game?
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On December 24 2011 01:26 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 01:22 risk.nuke wrote: Rad I'm not the least sold that cwave will bleed red, write a post where you take in what he's done good and bad and I'll judge that. I just read his filter and that post was a joke for a case. What has he done good? What are his contributions this game? It doesn't make him scum, Reading his filter I can understand more of his thoughts behind what he does then most other people and it's not setting of alarms, I think cascades is a good lynch or possibly Jitsu who I'm looking at right now.
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People keep bringing my name up, yet no one has anything definitive to say. Hopefully one of you guys will stop wasting time.
@Rad, do you think the fact that Sheth was asking my opinion on CWave meant anything? Now that i'm thinking about it, he might have been asking people about our opinions on CWave to see if CWave was doing a good job at hiding, no?
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Today I would like to lynch either 1. Jitsu or 2. Cascades in that order.
Also I'm starting to doubt we have a dt. Can the few people who haven't claimed yet do. I'll write a post on Jitsu now.
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