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So I took the four names on the bottom of my Excel sheet and rechecked Filters. Refallen’s stood out to me a little bit.
dosen't seem like he's showing any fear, which I think is protown. Kind of like Sheth, he's been pretty active about asking people to post cases and will follow his own lynch targets instead of sheeping people. That's the feeling I got from him.
(Also since we're both from Singapore it's highly likely that he's asleep and won't be able to defend himself and for the past 8 hours, since it's early morning here.)
Here, Refallen says that Sheth was acting pro-town, by doing a fair amount of things. He says that he got the same read of pro-town because of the same things Sheth was doing. Regardless of this, however, right after the Day post where Sheth dies…
On December 22 2011 12:34 Refallen wrote:
Was pretty suspicious of Sheth and made my feelings known.
When/how did you make you’re suspicions of Sheth known? It’s pretty clear, a few posts ago, that you said you viewed him as Pro-Town. Radical change of thought with no evidence between the two. Was it the fact that he was lynched, and you were trying to distance yourself from him?
Earlier the in game, he was lurking pretty hard, and than came out of the wood-work to vote before peaceing for a bit again. He made the excuse of time zone differences – time zone differences? The day cycles are 48 hours long. There’s plenty of time to do something and make a valid point/post/vote. You just hopped up on the bandwagon that first day…
ProfessorBadass (15): Arctocod, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Liquid`Sheth, Refallen, -Liquid`Sheth, GreYMisT, VisceraEyes,Comprissent, Liquid`Sheth, Jitsu, GiygaS, zeks, evantrees, cascades, MrZentor, nyczbrandon, Radfield
And the second day…
Comprissent (8): Radfield, Jitsu, evantrees, zeks, -zeks, TotallyNotTwoPeople, MrZentor, zeks, Refallen, jaj22
And the third day…
Actually, out of all your posts, it’s either agreeing/disagreeing with someone, looks to be repeating what someone else already said, or not really saying much. He picked it up after the Sheth post, but than it pittered out into nothing. For instance:
I'm fine with you all shooting me if that's what it takes to prove my town status but I rather try to defend myself here rather than make vet waste a shot on me, since when I survive, there's still the possiblity of me being a mafia vet.
What? You either get shot and prove your town, or survive and possibly be a mafia vet?
Refallen’s slid down on my spreadsheet a piece or two. After that I checked out cascades, because of Refallen’s constant assurance that Cascades was town. I read through cascades whopping two pages of Filter, but even after all of it, he gives me a read of town. I think, actually part of it, is the fact that he has a lot of the same reads on Deus that I do. Re: I really like his most recent post. He’s calling out for Deus to respond to him, and I would like to see the answers.
Right now, the bottom three is pretty murky because of the last remaining players, but it includes Refallen and Deus.
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See TnTPs defence. Also, I feel like I phrased the part about cascades and sheth badly. I felt like he was posting "kind of" like sheth in terms of tone ad style (not sleeping, using his own reads) but what made him town was that I felt his arguments and cases was actually more coherent and not forced.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
Now I am going to make one ragepost at this complete idiot cascades:
You didn't do anything this entire game. You didn't post a single analysis all you did was strange trolling.
I don't think your "jokes" are funny, e.g. this "hopefully mafia will kill all the vets for us?!"
Basically your negative attitude is extremely bad for us. If you're town, you shouldn't take my attack on you personal and don't just make a case on me, because I made one on you.
I don't know if you're just an extremely bad townie or scum.
What is this by the way:
"And why? Because of lazy setup reasoning. Well 20% of players are mafia, so 1/5 vets = mafia! We already caught the allocated number of scum vets which is Curu. Does this setup make sense in such a vet oriented game? So basically that poor mafia vet screws up/ goes inactive, and the rest of mafia can just GG? They stand almost no chance of getting someone in an elected position (unless they happen to have way to demonstrate they are town?) Oh wait, we already saw all of the mafia powers with today's secret ballot that no one is claiming, none of them are viable for faking a confirmed townie. Those that are "semi-viable" have town counterparts that they can just easily counterclaim."
I don't understand the entire paragraph. Are you claiming scum right there? Are you pissed because you had "only" Curu in your team and he screwed up?
Hey! it's not my fault that the setup is like it is. Talk to kita if you have any problems with that.
I know, that I am town, I saw Palmogism flip and Radfield is nearly confirmed for me because of the roleblockaction and all that stuff. Curu was red, bum was red. These flips only endorse my earlier theory that there were 2 experienced players in the scumteam and the other experienced players are town. That's at least the situation from my point of view.
Screw you with you shitty case on me. Also Risk. You two complete idiots just ignore all my efforts to win this fucking game. FOR TOWN. Look at what happened in this game so far. Do you really think I wouldn't yell at sheth in the scumQT if he's buddying me like that? Do you really think I would have been afk when they blocked Palmogism?
Whatever. I want to talk about the so far claimed roles. As radfield pointed it looks like we have a lot of blues.
TNTP has a pretty scummy ability. One of the remaining scumteammembers has this kidnap-ability they used day1.
Maybe one of the scumteam also has this ability and he can't counterclaim against TNTP now. Consequently I don't think TNTP is scum, because as scum with this role, there is a high chance in this setup that some badass has the same role as townie and you have to trade 1v1. Right now, that's not the optimal play.
Ahm I am still on the run, Lynch is in about 7.XX hours.
I'll figure out my favourite for tonights lynch in the next few hours when I have time. It's a little bit difficult on that tiny screen, but okay, someone has to put a little bit of work in that game and not just accuse others if they accuse them.
idiotic cascadees
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On December 24 2011 05:14 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Now I am going to make one ragepost at this complete idiot cascades:
You didn't do anything this entire game. You didn't post a single analysis all you did was strange trolling.
I don't think your "jokes" are funny, e.g. this "hopefully mafia will kill all the vets for us?!"
Basically your negative attitude is extremely bad for us. If you're town, you shouldn't take my attack on you personal and don't just make a case on me, because I made one on you.
I don't know if you're just an extremely bad townie or scum.
What is this by the way:
"And why? Because of lazy setup reasoning. Well 20% of players are mafia, so 1/5 vets = mafia! We already caught the allocated number of scum vets which is Curu. Does this setup make sense in such a vet oriented game? So basically that poor mafia vet screws up/ goes inactive, and the rest of mafia can just GG? They stand almost no chance of getting someone in an elected position (unless they happen to have way to demonstrate they are town?) Oh wait, we already saw all of the mafia powers with today's secret ballot that no one is claiming, none of them are viable for faking a confirmed townie. Those that are "semi-viable" have town counterparts that they can just easily counterclaim."
I don't understand the entire paragraph. Are you claiming scum right there? Are you pissed because you had "only" Curu in your team and he screwed up?
Hey! it's not my fault that the setup is like it is. Talk to kita if you have any problems with that.
I know, that I am town, I saw Palmogism flip and Radfield is nearly confirmed for me because of the roleblockaction and all that stuff. Curu was red, bum was red. These flips only endorse my earlier theory that there were 2 experienced players in the scumteam and the other experienced players are town. That's at least the situation from my point of view.
Screw you with you shitty case on me. Also Risk. You two complete idiots just ignore all my efforts to win this fucking game. FOR TOWN. Look at what happened in this game so far. Do you really think I wouldn't yell at sheth in the scumQT if he's buddying me like that? Do you really think I would have been afk when they blocked Palmogism?
Whatever. I want to talk about the so far claimed roles. As radfield pointed it looks like we have a lot of blues.
TNTP has a pretty scummy ability. One of the remaining scumteammembers has this kidnap-ability they used day1.
Maybe one of the scumteam also has this ability and he can't counterclaim against TNTP now. Consequently I don't think TNTP is scum, because as scum with this role, there is a high chance in this setup that some badass has the same role as townie and you have to trade 1v1. Right now, that's not the optimal play.
Ahm I am still on the run, Lynch is in about 7.XX hours.
I'll figure out my favourite for tonights lynch in the next few hours when I have time. It's a little bit difficult on that tiny screen, but okay, someone has to put a little bit of work in that game and not just accuse others if they accuse them.
idiotic cascadees
Thank God. This was convincing for me.
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Let me re-phrase. I'm happy that this rage-post came out, finally answering the questions being flung at him.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
Refallens "vet" claim doesn't convince me at all. But yeah, he's probably an idiotic medic who protected scum the whole game/DT who investigated people who died the same night and is now lying at us because he's afraid to get shot if he claims what he actually is.
This lying doesn't help us at all. A Vet doesn't really fit in this setup, with all the elections and the elected roles and stuff. But okay, do what you want. I didn't suspect you before, I probably shouldn't now.
I have to take this kind of stupidity into account.
Moreover I am going to reread cascadees with the following assumption: I am going to assume that he's COMPLETELY retarded and I'll see if I still think he's scum. If I come to the conclusion that he even can't be the dumbest townie ever seen and therefor innocent, we probably should lynch him tonight.
Cwave is the next I am going to filter and in the end my dear friend risk.nuke, who never made any sense the whole game, but has an grotesque ego anyhow.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
If somehow anyone is still in the mood to get on my nervers with stupid cases on me for posting oneliners:
It's not my proble, if you sit in front of your computer like an ape and don't understand what's going on.
If you think it's smart to judge players by reference to the length of their posts, I want to share a secret with you: It's not smart at all.
I could imagine someone is pissed because I started to fool around last night with my "maybe i won't watch radfield"
I already sent in my check on radfield at this point of time. I just wanted to annoy the scumteam and I obviously achieved that goal. Noone shot greymist or zeks and they chose the targets I wanted them to chose. Two completely useless confirmed townies instead of the useful confirmed townies.
Sheth was raging because of that and I identified him as scum. It was an eyeopener for me but I wanted to wait until the next day and what would happen. "unfortunately" sheth was already dead today so I couldn't call him out for his nocturnal panic attack regarding my decision to WIFOM the check.
Now back to reading.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
One last remark: I should have lied to you guys in retrospect: I should have told you I watched one of the dead guys and told you I saw cascades. Only to see his reaction to this. I mean I would have dissolved the lie a few hours later after his reaction...
I think that would have been funny.
Damn!
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Probally would have hurt more than it would have potentially helped. The lynch train that would have started against you for not watching rad would be instant, and to have you say at the end "its ok guys i really did watch him" would probally not have stopped it.
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Heading back to my hometown for the holidays, my vote is on cwave.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
On December 24 2011 05:55 GreYMisT wrote:
Probally would have hurt more than it would have potentially helped. The lynch train that would have started against you for not watching rad would be instant, and to have you say at the end "its ok guys i really did watch him" would probally not have stopped it.
lol, you obviously have no fantasy.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
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Struggled a bit to pick between Cascades and Cwave.
Reasons to lynch Cwave: See all the cases in the last few pages.
Reasons to lynch Cascades: Posting is almost all defensive and/or veteran-hate. Also I still think this is a scumslip:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12795425
Cascades gets my lynch vote on the basis that Cwave posted a lot better before and there's a chance he might sort himself out. Cascades isn't going to change.
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Vatican City State258 Posts
the cases are rubbish. Cwave is innocent.
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On December 24 2011 07:22 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
WHERE IS ZENTOR BTW?
I told y'all he's fucking scum
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If I was medic or DT I would have claimed medic or DT. Obviously I'm not afraid to do it ( see the only game I played in, the last xliii. I am a vet, a town vet. I will not lie shittly to cover up my mistakes.
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So why did mafia have a godfather? Surely we have a terrible DT somewhere?
Thinking that Intelligence Officer will probably be able to hand out a DT check or two, which ought to win the game unless something bad is happening.
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On December 24 2011 07:30 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
the cases are rubbish. Cwave is innocent.
So, care to enlighten us with who you think we should lynch?
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On December 24 2011 07:48 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2011 07:30 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
the cases are rubbish. Cwave is innocent. So, care to enlighten us with who you think we should lynch?
pretty sure it's cascades
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Dues you have absolutely no reason or right to be upset. How you have the nerve to blame us for pointing out things in your posts is straight up incredible.
Sorry for my Jitsu post never coming up, surprise christmas stuff got in the way. I don't know if I'll be back again tonight.
E-Vote: Radfield
L-Vote: Cascades
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EPT
