EPTOn December 08 2011 06:44 Mattchew wrote:
once again.. people assuming scum based off accusations on themselves.
once again.. people assuming scum based off accusations on themselves.
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prplz is probably palmar's buddy.
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
prplz is probably palmar's buddy. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On December 08 2011 06:45 Mattchew wrote: Why? (this isn't meant to be rude I would actually like to know why previous game QT's should not be used) Use them all you want, people were just talking about whether it was posted and whether it should be posted and stuff like that. There is it, it was posted and that's all there is to say about that, move on to stuff that is actually related to the game we're playing right now. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
While what you suggest is possible, that is assuming enough things that you don't know that it is like one of probably 10,000 possible scenarios. Pretending that one of them is likely is a trap that makes you ignore the real items at hand. If palmar and I are scum and we did all that as a gambit we had it planned to a T. Like, he had to asks for my notes right as I get to work, claim dayvig and deadline me a time line that doesnt allow me to be at home, do rapid fire back and forth, suggest a target to me, me shoot said target. Do you remember last game where I tried to organize a straight forward vote swap at the last second? Simple gambits like that are hard enough. I mean, lighting can strike someone three times in one year but that doesnt mean you should waste time thinking about it till you find out he lives at the top of the only tree in town lol. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Can you explain to a noob like myself what all this post means On December 08 2011 06:48 prplhz wrote: Use them all you want, people were just talking about whether it was posted and whether it should be posted and stuff like that. There is it, it was posted and that's all there is to say about that, move on to stuff that is actually related to the game we're playing right now. oh ok... thought you meant not to use it... apologies... | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On December 08 2011 06:39 Mattchew wrote: not ignored.. missed... my apologies I think that Palmar and V7 set up the entire situation so that V7 could shoot a townie early with an excuse. Palmar can just play the wtf happened and I didn't mean to get a townie shot card and then they are both cleared. Another question, then... If they were doing that, why wouldn't they have shot a more experienced and contributing player than Soap? Why would they do it d1? What exactly makes you think they did this? On December 08 2011 06:41 Mattchew wrote: And why should I not post the QT? Is there a rule against that? If there is I will accept punishment, it was an honest mistake. I'm not sure, but it's technically private still, and where I'm from, you're typically not allowed to use info outside of the game that not everyone has access to. It very well could be different here. My apologies. I was incorrect. On December 08 2011 05:25 sandroba wrote: If you are medic and protected annul please claim right now so we can lynch both of you. Have a good day. Missed this a while ago. I really don't see why we'd lynch both and I also don't see why we need yet another roleclaim. I do agree with Toad's case on Eran. Mattchew, red is correct in that your post saying why you're going to vote red is scummy. You say you haven't seen a case that you truly believe in, which implies the case on red is one you don't believe in. If that's so, why are you on red? | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On December 08 2011 06:44 Toadesstern wrote: I think we might have someone with Erandorr. Someone already pointed out his style is very mich the same as the last game. He's not contributing at all, if someone calls him out he gets in here, does one bigger post and keeps lurkering / onlines until the next guy calls him out. The very same thing happened last game. Look at his filter last game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=117613 and start on page 2 (his mayor-campaign-post), everything before that was before the game started. Called out by ss: klick me Erandorr steps in the thread, does one normal post, proceeds to lurk. I made a case on him as well: Klick me Same as above as frankly, both happened abot the same time, so yeah erandorr get in the thread and starts doing some real posts. That's page 63. From page 64 again he's back to one-liners only. Massive vote-rigging:: Klick me! Erandorr joins the discussion to get one bigger post to get some town-cred and proceeds to lurk / do one-liners. I mean there where people claiming mafia, no need to not bus them for town-cred. That's how he played mafia last game. Now let's look at what erandorr is doing this game, shall we? That's his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212&user=117613 He did some posts on day1 tha are no one-lines, those howeve are just fluff without content, telling rad to take a stand without actually doing something on his own. EVERYTHING ELSE is a one-liner. Next thing that's going to happen: Erandorr will come here, make a big post to look town again, telling you that something is wrong and some way more obvious target should be lynched first and will proceed lurking / doing one-liners afterwards. We can't let that happen again. He completly ignored those people who called him out last game, did one post that made him look okayish and went lurking again. Yeah its not like I wrote a giant case on someone that I am convinced is scum, right? No, that just can't be true! | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On December 08 2011 06:52 Lanaia wrote: Another question, then... If they were doing that, why wouldn't they have shot a more experienced and contributing player than Soap? Why would they do it d1? What exactly makes you think they did this? I'm not sure, but it's technically private still, and where I'm from, you're typically not allowed to use info outside of the game that not everyone has access to. It very well could be different here. My apologies. I was incorrect. Missed this a while ago. I really don't see why we'd lynch both and I also don't see why we need yet another roleclaim. I do agree with Toad's case on Eran. Mattchew, red is correct in that your post saying why you're going to vote red is scummy. You say you haven't seen a case that you truly believe in, which implies the case on red is one you don't believe in. If that's so, why are you on red? I said (or meant to say) I havent seen another case that I believe in. I made my case against red and still believe in that over anything else thats been presented | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 08 2011 06:53 Erandorr wrote: Yeah its not like I wrote a giant case on someone that I am convinced is scum, right? No, that just can't be true! First of all: I was right wasn't I? Next thing that's going to happen: Erandorr will come here, make a big post to look town again, telling you that something is wrong and some way more obvious target should be lynched first and will proceed lurking / doing one-liners afterwards. Next thing that happened: You did a post that was decent. Next thing that happened: You did a one-liner (that pic), Next thing that happened: You did a oneliner (this very post I'm quoting). Q.E.D. On your case: It's not that I said you're only doing onelines, it's that you're doing onelines as long as you're fine and once you're not you'll start doing real posts when you're scum. That's my point and I think I'm right here. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 08 2011 06:45 Erandorr wrote: Hey Radfield, could you explain that rather weird stance on annul you seem to have? Look at the quotes I took from your posts. You said that there are other reasons why annul could be scum, that you had your own reasons to doubt his townieness and then you come out and tell us you still lean town towards him. Why did you never specify what concerns you seem to have with annul and where did that apparant change of mind come from. It is a big step from "not the best lynch" to "leaning town" without a real explanation I assume I answered this as well in my last post. Yes I have reasons to doubt his townieness, yes I am leaning slight town on him... those two statements are not contradictory. The obvious missing statement is that I also have reasons to believe his townieness. @Toadesstern, I am willing to move on Erandorr as well. Add in to your case that his last game as town, Mini Mafia X, he was very solid Day 1. The most solid I've seen him play. @prplhz, you have some decent points there, and I'm going to respond more in detail, but my case is most certainly not about you swearing or not. I'm talking about aggression and tone, and that does not just mean a pottymouth. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
Toads analysis on me is actually pretty good, but I played that way last game because I didn't read the game at all, actually. I pointed out to you that I have been very ill and still feel like shit , actually. Thats why those games look so similar. I actually don't want to fuck town over, so if you have questions that will help you determine my alignment then just ask away and I will give you long answers for once. I hope that I will stay active after that, but at this point I can't really promise you anything. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
I'm sorry, I don't know how active I'm going to be for the next 8 hours... I am panicking as I can't make this assignment work and I fail the class if I don't finish it so I am scared. I have 25 hours to finish it. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 08 2011 07:18 Erandorr wrote: [...] I actually don't want to fuck town over, so if you have questions that will help you determine my alignment then just ask away and I will give you long answers for once. I hope that I will stay active after that, but at this point I can't really promise you anything. Ok what's the reason for that one: On December 08 2011 00:26 Erandorr wrote: ##Vote: Annul ! To me it looks like you're just blindly following palmar. I know he's a vet but given what he did on day1 I don't want anyone to follow him unless you come to the same conclusion as he does on your own or he somehow proves that he's back to normal. Right now I don't know what to think of Palmar. Yes I still think he's looking slightly town or even more. But I don't want him to ruin day2 like he did with day1, he's not a god that wondrously is right with everything he says and I don't like the fact that he tells people to rush like that. So imo what you're doing is either sheeping palmar which I can't understand based off day1 or it's a vote of yourself without a reason. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
@rad i agree to some extent and i would be fine with a prplz lynch today @VisceraEyes I appreciate the effort but Palmar isn't getting lynched today and there are 5 other scum out there for you to catch right? Focus on somebody else. prplz why isn't palmar getting lynched today? And is this a scumslip? | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
He is not getting lynched because he is not scum. How the hell is that even supposed to be a scumslip? Do you think that VisceraEyes is doing any good with his tunneling, or do you think that his opinion becomes tainted by the fact that he can't stop obsessing about Palmar? Do you think it is easy to read VisceraEyes when he is tunneling as hard as I have ever seen anybody tunnel? What do you think about sandroba saying that you're probably town, you just can't form a coherent thought this game? What do you think about Mattchew? | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On December 08 2011 07:45 prplhz wrote: @redFF He is not getting lynched because he is not scum. How the hell is that even supposed to be a scumslip? Do you think that VisceraEyes is doing any good with his tunneling, or do you think that his opinion becomes tainted by the fact that he can't stop obsessing about Palmar? Do you think it is easy to read VisceraEyes when he is tunneling as hard as I have ever seen anybody tunnel? What do you think about sandroba saying that you're probably town, you just can't form a coherent thought this game? What do you think about Mattchew? dodge the question more yo | ||
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