EPTTL Mafia XLVIII - Page 5
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vaderseven
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vaderseven
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Next time pressure vote instead of pressure lie imo. + Show Spoiler + 1. StimilantE 2. prplhz day1- Calls turthbringer out for saying no lynch is good (scummy) but hates zodiac lists (proving he isnt noob) and then saying his vote will be worthless. SOFTCLAIMED POWER ROLE DAY 1 "Just want to sit around and wait for power roles to do our job? " Denies and clarifies softclaim. 3. Refallen day1- Claims not a smurf. 4. Radfield day1- Opens with a random vote on prplhz (rng). Too safe a vote that provides nothing. Even calls it bad. Really searching for ways that are not scum hunting to find a day1 lynch. Plays off of syllogism and says we need to make the town innocent so we can see scum. Suggest no-lynch after this. Says he likes zodiac lists. Says he doesn't like directing roles via lists. Says no-lynch is good cuz it makes us all get along. Makes it clear that he is actually not for a no-lynch 5. Palmar day1- Opens with a list of vets and says 2 of these are scum if the mod balanced in a smart way. List was a reply to a request for a list. Says lists are dumb. 6. Erandorr 7. hyshes 8. Zephirdd day1 - Fishes for a smurf claim on Refallen. 9. Drazerk 10. Jackal58 day1- Opens by saying random lynch is bad, lists are bad, and list makers often flip scum. Says the only way to confirm alignment is to die. 11. sandroba 12. syllogism day1- Opens by trying to say he wants to appear innocent via people questioning him. Likes zodia lists to direct medics. Declares that he will be looking at vets that live too long because that is scummy. 13. TruthBringer day1- advocates a no lynch and doesn't like zodiac lists. Says his vote is worthless. possible scummy post-http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=149&topic_id=291212 14. Toadesstern day1- Pops into the thread and says we should lynch a summy player or a lurker. 15. annul day1- Points out that Radfield doesn't like RNG and then RNGs. Says directing power roles is stupid. Points out how zodiac lists are wifom bait. 16. kingjames01 17. Corrupt Noob. day1- 18. Soap 19. Lanaia day1- Says I am scummy first post. 20. Risen 21. VisceraEyes day1- Opens by voting Palmer for wishy washy setupd speculation and no opinions. 22. vaderseven 23. Mattchew 24. Hier 25. redFF day1- Starts off by saying nolynch is bad till later in the game and really bad day 1 for good reasons. Then says palmar is scummy with no reasons and votes him. Posts his case when poked that its the useless list, followed by saying lists are useless. Ignores the reason for list posted in first place. Semi-weak case and probably wrong. | ||
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vaderseven
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I am down with either a Palmar or Lanaia lynch at this point. ##unvote | ||
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vaderseven
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On December 05 2011 23:17 Palmar wrote: [center]FOR GLORY ---img removed--- ##Vote Drazerk Oh boy RNG vote is helpful. + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2011 23:21 Palmar wrote: Do you have an issue with lynching Drazerk? On December 05 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote: Isn't Glory a reason? On December 05 2011 23:36 Palmar wrote: I am a kite. I went to v7's filter and I can't tell if he's scum or not, I think the rng on Drazerk is stronger. On December 05 2011 23:47 Palmar wrote: Cause my homeboy Soap told me so. Brofield, get in here and tell me what you think about v7. On December 06 2011 01:02 Palmar wrote: ok I'm a dayvig. Post your notes, every single one, unedited in the next 1 hour or I kill you. Ok... Tunnel in on me without making a case at all and then you use the lie of a claim in order to get a reaction from me. + Show Spoiler + On December 06 2011 01:42 Palmar wrote: Ok awesome. Now you have to shoot someone. May I suggest you kill Drazerk? On December 06 2011 01:42 Palmar wrote: oh wait, even better. since we're gonna hang you anyway, shoot someone, and if you hit scum we'll let you live for the night. Pick your own target! It's like a perverted russian roulette with random victims. Now you have basiclly set it up so that I am either a liar and need lynched, I shoot town and should be lynched, or i shoot scum and live. Nice added bonus that you are a liar about the same claim. You then through out a random lets lynch redff. You are now in full defense mode. You are either lieing to town, trolling, or defending yourself. I asked you once to scum hunt and you ignored that. The only that thing that gets you to stop trolling and lieing is to make it clear that you will get lynch. To bad you wont be the real type of useful and scum hunt. Your filter is damning to me. Linaia's is nowhere near as scummy as yours. | ||
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vaderseven
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vaderseven
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I still will default to lynching him cuz he is scummy. | ||
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vaderseven
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He has pushed for some random lynches (and not pushed for anything besides random lynches) He hasn't scum hunted at all. | ||
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vaderseven
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I posted those with out even reading them over again as a good faith thing. I was home for like 1.5 mins before they were up. | ||
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vaderseven
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*rolls eyes* I said I dont want to post my notes cuz they are short, full of shorthand that I use, and not really helpful becuase they lack conclusions. Palmar said he would shot me in the face if i didn't post them and that started everything. I didn't write them up intending to share them. | ||
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vaderseven
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On December 06 2011 08:01 Zephirdd wrote: My point is that he made a fucked up move, and that tells me that he is more town than scum. Scums at least think thoroughly their steps, they won't go fuck up like that day 1. Especially NOT Palmar, because I do know that he is smart enough for that. Fuck, there is no way to argue for his defense without meta. It's just... he isn't red, he doesn't feel red to me. Sorry, but I got nothing. Honestly, that doesn't say anything that defends his scummy actions. You are basiclly saying that Palmar only does town actions. He didn't play that way today regaurdless of everything else so why should we apply meta like that at this time. | ||
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vaderseven
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212¤tpage=19#368 was around when I stopped 'playing' last night and I don't send my notes to work usually. Thats why it was silly to post them. I only did so cuz I was "on notice" to do so. | ||
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vaderseven
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NOTHING he has done today is pro town. Take any of his posts and you will find either abstract game theory filler, defense, RNG based pushes, trolling, or lieing. THIS ISN'T PRO TOWN PLAY SUPERSOFT. THIS IS PLAY THAT DOES HELP THE SCUM. get it? | ||
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vaderseven
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This is why I dont like to post my notes palmar. | ||
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On December 06 2011 08:23 supersoft wrote: if she's a real girl, thats not a scumtell. Sorry folks. Girls contradict themselves all the time. even so i am going to read her filter of her last scumgame... I'd like to have a little bit more than just Radfields verdict. On December 06 2011 07:17 vaderseven wrote: I like the case on Lanaia ALOT. It really does fit especially with her posting style last game. The asap posting about things when called out is pretty dang fishy to me too. I am down with either a Palmar or Lanaia lynch at this point. ##unvote I read her and posted an agreement with Radfield fyi. | ||
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vaderseven
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On December 06 2011 08:27 flamewheel wrote: why u so many page Rolling dice and shooting guns. | ||
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vaderseven
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My thoughts. Palmer has acted scummy in multiple ways (Lies, Trolling, Randon Votes instead of Scum Hunting, and only posts in a srs way when defending himself). More info here - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291212¤tpage=39#776 Your entire post boils down to a, "u bad bro." I don't think it is decided if Palmar is innocent or a good lynch. The votes will decide that. Rash behavior would include posting big pictures of dice to RNG vote people when there is ~12 hours left in the day. Rash behavior would include fake claiming. Everything Palmer has done today has been unhelpful yet he is posting alot. The best defense that people are posting is that he isn't dumb enough to act like that as scum. I ask who thinks it is smart to act like that as town? Just because a move is a dangerous move as scum doesn't make it pro-town. Each action needs to be looked at and understood on its own. RNG instead of scumhunting. I call that scummy. Fake Claim instead of a pressure vote (especially given the timing of people starting to question my vote on corrupt because I had been out of the thread asleep for awhile; he did this as a small wagon was starting on me). I call that scummy. Trolling after events happen and adding nothing productive until he defends himself. I call that scummy. Consider if I had posted the notes he wanted me to post when he asked. I said I don't want to post the notes they are not helpful. He then lies and tries to force the notes out of me. Had he gotten me to post those he could have been like ya I did to get him to post look at me Im really good at this, oh and his notes are just a giant list lynch this guy. I see this as a minor day 1 gambit that I did not play the part he imagined I would play. He was trying to setup a decent case that already had some people voting on in a way that would be seen as a 'cool move' even if it didn't work. I see no town motivation to lie about a claim in order to get someone to post something that they say isn't helpful in the first place. Its just an over allocation of risk for too little gain. I think he wanted to use my notes to build a case on me based on the fact that I myself said the notes are not helpful. | ||
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vaderseven
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On December 06 2011 08:40 Palmar wrote: Someone is going to notice this sooner or later, so I might as well claim it anyway. I have an extra vote, (the role name is floridian) that means the anonymous vote that will show up on the voting chart is mine. I don't see any reason as for why I should not claim this role, as an anonymous vote will probably confuse people more than it helps to keep it concealed. Just curious here, why did you not claim this when you placed your first vote? I was assuming that the vote counts were out of date or some such. | ||
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